SAMCRO Season Not 2: Loveable Ball Removing Bikers

nosnibor

I'm liking the conflict with the Aryans, and the porn storyline is okay simply for comic relief, but I keep wondering when we're gonna get to the meat of the story.

I'm worried we got cockteased at the end of season one, and they're saving what we thought we'd get in season two for season three.

Captain Ultra

I guess it was kind of like this in season 1. As much as I like the clown episode, and the Devil's Tribe episode, their connection to the whole Clay-Jax were tangentially at best. Does anyone know if this season is 13 episodes like last season (Isn't that the norm for FX?) or is it more?

DevoutlyApathetic

nosnibor wrote: »

I'm liking the conflict with the Aryans, and the porn storyline is okay simply for comic relief, but I keep wondering when we're gonna get to the meat of the story.

I'm worried we got cockteased at the end of season one, and they're saving what we thought we'd get in season two for season three.

I think some important stuff is happening. Gemma/Clay's relationship is weakening, Jax is taking more and more of a leadership role, the law situation is complicating and becoming more interesting.

Even if this whole season is simply progress of this nature I won't be too disappointed. So far all the "filler" is adding depth to the main conflict's dynamic in small but important ways.

HyphyKezzy

The whole Gemma/Clay thing is actually making me start to feel some sympathy for Clay, where up to this point I thought of him as a dick in his best moments and outright despicable most of the time.

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I got the distinct impression he was thinking of Gemma while he was with that chick at the wrap party. A lot of us close our eyes when we get head, it was something in his expression on top of that.

DevoutlyApathetic

...I'm actually starting to like Tigg in a weird twisted way.

JohnnyCache

DevoutlyApathetic wrote: »

...I'm actually starting to like Tigg in a weird twisted way.

Tig's a good soldier.

DevoutlyApathetic

DevoutlyApathetic wrote: »

I think some important stuff is happening. Gemma/Clay's relationship is weakening, Jax is taking more and more of a leadership role, the law situation is complicating and becoming more interesting.

Even if this whole season is simply progress of this nature I won't be too disappointed. So far all the "filler" is adding depth to the main conflict's dynamic in small but important ways.

Really, I'm just going to quote myself here and point to this weeks episode.

HappylilElf

JohnnyCache wrote: »

DevoutlyApathetic wrote: »

...I'm actually starting to like Tigg in a weird twisted way.

Tig's a good soldier.

Yeah he is. I'm starting to get this weird feeling Tig is going to end up on Jax's side and Opie is going to end up on Clay's.

Speaking of which I want to backhand Opie more and more with each passing episode.

cheese_boy

looks like action is gonna pick up pretty soon.

i think im enjoying this season more than the first so far. certainly made me laugh more which im guessing is going to make things seem a whole lot more brutal when the shit goes down.

Iceman.USAF

HappylilElf wrote: »

JohnnyCache wrote: »

DevoutlyApathetic wrote: »

...I'm actually starting to like Tigg in a weird twisted way.

Tig's a good soldier.

Yeah he is. I'm starting to get this weird feeling Tig is going to end up on Jax's side and Opie is going to end up on Clay's.

Speaking of which I want to backhand Opie more and more with each passing episode.

I think that was made pretty clear at the end of this weeks episode, with the confrontation between Op/Jax.

Has anyone else noticed that everytime a big problem comes up, Jax is the one to figure out some great solution? It's like Clay would be best tackling the small twitch reaction problems, while Jax is thinking far more long term.

MadnessBA

I love this show. I want more shows like this one. Too bad HBO dropped 1%... That is all.

HappylilElf

I'm not too sure what you mean Ice

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That Op will end up backing Clay? I'm going to say maybe for now. It's too early for me to rule out intentional misdirection on the writers part. In fact how early it is in the season would kind of make me lean towards that if I had to make a definate call right now. I still wanna slap him though

If you're talking about Tig... well, that's more of a shot in the dark on my part I think. I can see it happening because it'd be pretty surprising becuase while the show has done a lot to show that Tig is loyal to a fault I'm not sure if he's loyal more to Clay or the Club. I do think Jax bought himself some Tiggy points last episode though though.

cheese_boy

im thinkin hes going to resent jax for not telling him that his wife was murdered by his own club

cant say i see him siding with either one too much, hopin for some one man army vengeance.

Iceman.USAF

HappylilElf wrote: »

I'm not too sure what you mean Ice

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That Op will end up backing Clay? I'm going to say maybe for now. It's too early for me to rule out intentional misdirection on the writers part. In fact how early it is in the season would kind of make me lean towards that if I had to make a definate call right now. I still wanna slap him though

If you're talking about Tig... well, that's more of a shot in the dark on my part I think. I can see it happening because it'd be pretty surprising becuase while the show has done a lot to show that Tig is loyal to a fault I'm not sure if he's loyal more to Clay or the Club. I do think Jax bought himself some Tiggy points last episode though though.

Yes I was basically saying I see Opie siding with Clay. It's the perfect kind of sick shit the show would pull. Then Jax will get Tig to open up to him and tell him about the hit. This will of course have the potential to drive Opie off the deep end and destroy the club, so Jax will use it as leverage to learn more about Clay/his Father.

Wow, if I'm even remotely right I want a damn prize at the end of this season.

DevoutlyApathetic

Well shit. Stupid show.

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I liked Chips!

I am a little curious how the fuck they expected to plant a car bomb and just walk away with it. Nazi-ette wasn't wearing gloves or anything when she got out of it.

Of course, I was thinking this and then I realized they might plan on extorting Hale to clamp down on any forensic investigation into them.

Reznik

D:

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Poor Otto and Chibs.

Those Nazis are gonna get torn apart.

Also, Bobby siding with Jax was pretty cool. I also have a strong suspicion that things are going to end very, very badly for Opie.

Salvation122

Oh my God

Oh my God

I LOVE THIS SHOW

HyphyKezzy

DevoutlyApathetic wrote: »

Well shit. Stupid show.

Spoiler:

I liked Chips!

I am a little curious how the fuck they expected to plant a car bomb and just walk away with it. Nazi-ette wasn't wearing gloves or anything when she got out of it.

Of course, I was thinking this and then I realized they might plan on extorting Hale to clamp down on any forensic investigation into them.

I think Hale will fall in line. This is based off the previews for next week but

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it looked to me in that brief chunk of conversation they showed between him and Gemma that he's about to give the club free reign in this instance. She said something like "you really want to hurt this guy" and he was all "yeah I do." So pure wild conjecture on my part, I'm thinking he tell's her he knows about the rape and wants her to tell Clay and Jax. And that he's good with whatever happens as a consequence of that. Hell, if the Sons are thorough enough about it we could have a Michael Scott Win-Win-Win. Hale has no one surviving to extort him, the Sons get their retaliation (and it maybe even eases things temporarily between Jax and Clay), and the town of Charming rids itself of some nasty Aryan fucks.

Salvation122

Seriously, I almost feel bad for Zobell's kid. That's a character with a defacto red shirt if I ever saw one, and she was probably brainwashed into her current line of work.

DevoutlyApathetic

Yea.

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I don't see any of that "Oh, He has a family with little kiddies" working if Gemma finds herself alone with her.

Dalboz

Tig is blind action. He's completely loyal to Clay first and the club second. Still loyal to the club, but that's because he sees Clay as the club. So I doubt he's ever going to leave Clay's side, no matter the reason.

Opie, on the other hand...I see Jax threatening to tell Op, then Clay getting to him first and attempting to pin his wife's murder on Jax. But Opie's story is not going to end well, and it will likely put the nail in the coffin for his father as well.

Also, keep in mind that Zobell isn't like the other gangs they deal with. As they said, he has a lot more money and resources at his disposal. It's not the same kind of fight SAMCRO has dealt with before. When it escalates, especially if his daughter turn out to be a red shirt, expect the whole Aryan army coming to Charming and flat out walking into the garage and the club house in broad daylight to stir shit up.

Iceman.USAF

the Sons aren't exactly a "small" organization either. They've got a bunch of satellite groups.

psycojester

Yeah, go take a look at the amount of bikers that show up in charming at the end of season 1, that's not a small organisation.

Iceman.USAF

psycojester wrote: »

Yeah, go take a look at the amount of bikers that show up in charming at the end of season 1, that's not a small organisation.

Hell, even for the blood drive ride there was a good amount.

Captain Ultra

Happened to be rewatching season 1, the pilot in particular. There's a scene where Gemma hands Jax's ex-wife a bible with a syringe in it. I freeze framed it and I made out that the page the syringe was open to (best I could figure) was the First book of Kings, chapter 3. For those of you who don't know, that's the chapter that has the famous Solomon and the cutting the Baby into half story.

Considering the scene's dialouge is Gemma basically stealing Abel from his mother ("He'll never call you Mommy") because Gemma cares more about the child's well being, I thought it was a great touch.

viciousdogatak

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This show has never been too concerned with forensic evidence, but I assumed that the bomb would destroy any fingerprints, and the car is probably registered to a fake name.

Captain Ultra

Seriously, no one watched this?

I ended up missing the first half, and had to watch the rerun after to get filled in. I'm still not quite sure what happened, but next week's episode looks insane.

Spoiler:

Tig shivs Juice!

viciousdogatak

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I think that the IRA guys are the ones that planted the car bomb and they have been working for the Aryans for a while

King Kong

Best quote...

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So what do we do...Cut his head off in broad daylight?...




...




... OK

HyphyKezzy

viciousdogatak wrote: »

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I think that the IRA guys are the ones that planted the car bomb and they have been working for the Aryans for a while

Seems so obvious once you say it. Just the fact that they were meeting had me somewhat confused.

And Gemma's description of Zobelle's daughter was perfect. Good rack indeed.

Salvation122

Spoiler:

So who's left on the outside to bust the guys out of prison?

Opie
Piney
Halfsack
Gemma
Tara
Chips (aside from the whole brain-bleed thing)

Maybe the 9ers intercede in an effort to help SAMCRO fight off the Aryans?

MadnessBA

Salvation122 wrote: »

Spoiler:

So who's left on the outside to bust the guys out of prison?

Opie
Piney
Halfsack
Gemma
Tara
Chips (aside from the whole brain-bleed thing)

Maybe the 9ers intercede in an effort to help SAMCRO fight off the Aryans?

MadnessBA

Salvation122 wrote: »

Spoiler:

So who's left on the outside to bust the guys out of prison?

Opie
Piney
Halfsack
Gemma
Tara
Chips (aside from the whole brain-bleed thing)

Maybe the 9ers intercede in an effort to help SAMCRO fight off the Aryans?

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I really hope they don't get busted out because that would just be terrible writing and basically create fugitives out of the entire club.

Sorry for double post but forgot spoilers.

Johnny Chopsocky

MadnessBA wrote: »

Salvation122 wrote: »

Spoiler:

So who's left on the outside to bust the guys out of prison?

Opie
Piney
Halfsack
Gemma
Tara
Chips (aside from the whole brain-bleed thing)

Maybe the 9ers intercede in an effort to help SAMCRO fight off the Aryans?

Spoiler:

I really hope they don't get busted out because that would just be terrible writing and basically create fugitives out of the entire club.

Sorry for double post but forgot spoilers.

Spoiler:

I find it interesting that Jax kept the entire crew from firing a single shot. In face, Rollins fired the only shots in that chaos.

I wonder if that's going to play into anything next week...

viciousdogatak

I'm pretty curious to see how they get out of this as well.

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It seems like if you're charged with armed robbery or something, there is no way out of jail time, and since I imagine that bail would be very high on gang members, it would be pretty unlikely that they could bail all of those guys out with their current money problems.

DevoutlyApathetic

viciousdogatak wrote: »

I'm pretty curious to see how they get out of this as well.

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It seems like if you're charged with armed robbery or something, there is no way out of jail time, and since I imagine that bail would be very high on gang members, it would be pretty unlikely that they could bail all of those guys out with their current money problems.

Spoiler:

What were they going to be charged with stealing?

They'll get hit with weapons charges most like. Since the majority of them are already felons that can hurt quite enough.

NailbunnyPD

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I figure Gemma might finally fess up while Hale has the daughter in custody. With all their muscle in jail, the club won't be able to rashly retaliate. Tara probably has a rape kit stashed away somewhere. The van used for the carbomb looked to be the same as the one used by the blonde to trick Gemma.

Salvation122

Shit's about to get real real.

HyphyKezzy

It most certainly is.

The look on whatshername fed bitches face when

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Jax asked her if she ever heard from Hale was fucking priceless. And Jax walking to the garage alone gave me chills. Clever editing they did in the promo last week huh? Making it look like Tig had stabbed Juice.

Can't wait til next week.

ebotastic

HyphyKezzy wrote: »

It most certainly is.

The look on whatshername fed bitches face when

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Jax asked her if she ever heard from Hale was fucking priceless. And Jax walking to the garage alone gave me chills. Clever editing they did in the promo last week huh? Making it look like Tig had stabbed Juice.

Can't wait til next week.

I'm pretty sure it was

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Kohn, not Kale, of whom Jax asked. He added something like "dangerous being a fed, huh?" to his question.