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[Martial Arts & MMA] 4 - UFC is (still) Rigged

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo Ghost dog at my side.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    tito is clock watching and remains a bitch

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    BubbaT wrote: »
    David_T wrote: »
    Kessler/Ward, Super Six:
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    Ward was also
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    which is supposed to be illegal. I say "supposed to" because everybody does it. Mayweather does it all the time, so did young Tyson. Man, I miss young Tyson.

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  • Hugh JassHugh Jass I'm Squint Eastwood Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Boohoo tito, booohoooo

  • mojojoeomojojoeo Ghost dog at my side.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Excuses.

    And now I hate tito anew

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  • doug_grammardoug_grammar Registered User
    edited November 2009
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  • mojojoeomojojoeo Ghost dog at my side.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
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    And by the way there is no doctor in the world that will clear you to fight with the injuries listed as excuses.

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    Homer Simpson: That's not how I remember it.
  • WillisIVIIXWillisIVIIX Registered User
    edited November 2009
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    edited November 2009
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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    so is it just me or did Koschek dis his teammate (Mike Swick)?

    and yeah, that fight was all sorts of fucked up.

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  • WillisIVIIXWillisIVIIX Registered User
    edited November 2009
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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I left the bar before the interview, what were Tito's excuses?


    Was it that his last non-decision win over someone other than Shamrock was in 2001?

    Or was it that he was on a 2 fight losing streak, before that his only wins being against Shamrock, and his decision over Griffin?

  • WillisIVIIXWillisIVIIX Registered User
    edited November 2009
    CangoFett wrote: »
    I left the bar before the interview, what were Tito's excuses?


    Was it that his last non-decision win over someone other than Shamrock was in 2001?

    Or was it that he was on a 2 fight losing streak, before that his only wins being against Shamrock, and his decision over Griffin?
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  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I'm happy Tito is back in the UFC. I don't like the guy at all, indeed I became a fan of Machida after rooting for him when he was fighting Tito; not because of Machida's skill but because I didn't like Tito. I'm happy he lost, it'd have been a shame to lose a fighter like Forrest Griffin from the top ranks (hows about Forrest vs lil Nog?). Having Tito around is good I think, he provides entertainment value even if he is annoying. He gets people talking about MMA, and there are lots of old-school fans that consider Tito one of the best there ever was. I thought he injured his hand in the 3rd, but haven't yet seen anything to suggest thats true.

    Great card over all. I wish Karo - Hazellet had been on, but oh well.

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  • B:LB:L Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    [Tycho?] wrote: »
    I'm happy Tito is back in the UFC.

    It's where he should end his career.

    My favorite Tito moment was when I was talking to my buddies about Tito's skills in lay and pray when he was right behind me.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
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  • mojojoeomojojoeo Ghost dog at my side.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Zzulu wrote: »
    I think Tito did well, but he kind of stopped entirely in the third round. Like, he didn't do a single thing. He also didn't seem to shoot for takedowns more than once a round. It was just a strange performance I think.

    Otherwise a good night of fights. I think Saunders should have won the KO bonus of the night, but Rogerios was nice as well. Saunders just ruined Marcus Davis something fierce.

    It was an excellent night of fights minus the koscheck/ rumble weirdness.

    Titos performance. to be honest, he looked like he had cardio trouble. His stand up defense was just horrid. Forrest was landing three and four hit combos through titos arms. Sloppy as they were. When he secured the take down it looked very much like the tito of old. The third round not only did he gas, he was looking to steal the round by conserving energy and shooting at about the 3 min mark. You can watch tito eye the clock while getting punched in the head the whole round. Forrest stuffed him and that was that.

    Post fight- Did he dog mark Coleman for being injured, and then make excuses about being injured himself?

    Also- no doctor in the planet would clear you to fight with a "cracked skull"? right?

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    How was that third round not a 10-8? I don't get the point of a ten point must system if it seems like every round is a 10-9 to the judges.

    edit: Also, George Sitoropolopolopoulous has super awesome fights.

  • mojojoeomojojoeo Ghost dog at my side.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    815165 wrote: »
    How was that third round not a 10-8? I don't get the point of a ten point must system if it seems like every round is a 10-9 to the judges.

    My guess would be this- If tito had gotten rocked or had been in danger of being finished, it would have been 10-8.

    Instead he just stood there and got beat up a little.

    Can you quantify getting beat up? I got my as kicked...... a smidge...

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  • David_TDavid_T Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    815165 wrote: »
    How was that third round not a 10-8?

    Did he get a punch in? Then it's not a 10-8. It's the opposite of 10-10 rounds, which only occur if the fighters stand perfectly still for an entire round. Anyone moves and it's "Octagon Control" and that makes it a 10-9 round.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    David_T wrote: »
    815165 wrote: »
    How was that third round not a 10-8?

    Did he get a punch in? Then it's not a 10-8. It's the opposite of 10-10 rounds, which only occur if the fighters stand perfectly still for an entire round. Anyone moves and it's "Octagon Control" and that makes it a 10-9 round.
    He pretty much forced Forrest to beat him up the entire round, and even coerced him into stuffing two takedowns. Tito should have won that round based on octagon control alone.

  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Tito threw like, 3 punches, and went for one crappy takedown that would make a JV coach lose his head.

    It was the very definition of a 10-8 round.

  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Does anybody else think that it's weird that Forrest doesn't hit harder for all that he's a pretty big LHW? I mean he looks big, looks strong, but tends to pepper guys with punches rather than land big power shots. I guess I just wonder sometimes where the disparity in punching power comes from between guys that look like they should hit hard but don't (like Griffin) and guys who look like they shouldn't but do (like Anderson Silva). Guys who actually fight, feel free to call me an idiot.

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Does anybody else think that it's weird that Forrest doesn't hit harder for all that he's a pretty big LHW? I mean he looks big, looks strong, but tends to pepper guys with punches rather than land big power shots. I guess I just wonder sometimes where the disparity in punching power comes from between guys that look like they should hit hard but don't (like Griffin) and guys who look like they shouldn't but do (like Anderson Silva). Guys who actually fight, feel free to call me an idiot.
    The difference is technique. Plus to be fair Tito has an iron chin.

  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    yeah, has tito ever been knocked out?

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  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    yeah, has tito ever been knocked out?

    Chuck TKO'd him, I don't know if he's ever been unconscious.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Does anybody else think that it's weird that Forrest doesn't hit harder for all that he's a pretty big LHW? I mean he looks big, looks strong, but tends to pepper guys with punches rather than land big power shots. I guess I just wonder sometimes where the disparity in punching power comes from between guys that look like they should hit hard but don't (like Griffin) and guys who look like they shouldn't but do (like Anderson Silva). Guys who actually fight, feel free to call me an idiot.

    A lot of it is technique, and speed. Forrest is not the most technical fighter and he really does not throw fast punches at all.

    If you look at A.Silva though, he's incredibly fast and he's incredibly accurate. He'll hit you where you don't want to be hit and he'll hit you fast and hard.

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Does anybody else think that it's weird that Forrest doesn't hit harder for all that he's a pretty big LHW? I mean he looks big, looks strong, but tends to pepper guys with punches rather than land big power shots. I guess I just wonder sometimes where the disparity in punching power comes from between guys that look like they should hit hard but don't (like Griffin) and guys who look like they shouldn't but do (like Anderson Silva). Guys who actually fight, feel free to call me an idiot.

    Technique I suppose. I think it all comes down to when, where, and how.

    Like if you look at Anderson he's a big time counter puncher so his opponents are generally in less defensive positions when they get rocked. Then you have guys that are more of swarmers and if you weather the initial blows hey they've lost their power and chance to overwhelm for a KO.

    I guess. I have been told that I hit hard ( i'm a tiny little boy) but yeah I prefer to put my power into counter punches.

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  • SnarfmasterSnarfmaster Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Hugh Jass wrote: »
    How does amir sadollah get on the main card and didn't he lose his last 2 fights??? It says he is 2-o...

    No he just lost the 1 fight. He lost his last fight with what I'd say is an early stoppage. But he was injured for a long time before that. He dominated his season without so much as a single pro fight before it started. That was pretty impressive.

  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Sadollah didn't exactly look impressive against Baroni

    When Baroni had gas, he was controlling Sadollah and punching him all the time. Then, of course, Baroni gasses (like always) and can barely keep his hands up and Sadollah still is unable to finish him and strangely keeps eating the odd punch.

    I wish Baroni would have a gas tank which could last longer than 3min <3

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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Sadollah is still super new. I'd keep an eye on him. Hes only gonna get better. Trial by fire, etc etc.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    [Tycho?] wrote: »
    (hows about Forrest vs lil Nog?).

    That'd be a good #2 fight on a card. Maybe UFC 111 with GSP-Hardy as the main event and that as a co-main?

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    I would think that lil Nog would kill Forrest.

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I think Dan Hardy is in for a bad night vs. GSP. I look forward to that fight. Mike Swick would probably fare worse still.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    [Tycho?] wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    yeah, has tito ever been knocked out?

    Chuck TKO'd him, I don't know if he's ever been unconscious.

    Look how thick his neck is. You'd have to brain him with a fire extinguisher.

  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    I think Dan Hardy is in for a bad night vs. GSP. I look forward to that fight. Mike Swick would probably fare worse still.

    I really thought that Alves would pose a problem for GSP. I was very wrong.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo Ghost dog at my side.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HpNzEhYhxs&feature=player_embedded#

    found this on sherdog, but its funny.
    Post fight presser - Skip to 2:25

    Tito is going on and on about how he won the fight. And everyone sitting at the table rolls their eyes. Watch koscheck at 2:30. LOL.

    Crumby photo shop by some sherdogger of the reactions of the fighters and Dana. Don't think anyone wants to see someone mouthing off like that.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    he's just trying to sell Tito vs Forrest 3

    it's obvious. It's what he does

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  • B:LB:L Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Zzulu wrote: »
    he's just trying to sell Tito vs Forrest 3

    it's obvious. It's what he does

    If Dana White and the other UFC fighters didn't buy it, why would you expect people to buy the PPV? :lol:

    Definitely not going to see an "INSTANT REMATCH" like Machida/Shogun.


    On another note, can I request that the mods keep this thread open until TUF10 concludes on Wednesday? It'll be nice to encapsulate the whole event into one thread rather than have it spill over.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo Ghost dog at my side.Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Zzulu wrote: »
    he's just trying to sell Tito vs Forrest 3

    it's obvious. It's what he does

    Ya. But with his tears?

    I would rather forrest move on with his career than get stuck on this guy.

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    Homer Simpson: That's not how I remember it.
  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User
    edited November 2009
    B:L wrote: »
    On another note, can I request that the mods keep this thread open until TUF10 concludes on Wednesday? It'll be nice to encapsulate the whole event into one thread rather than have it spill over.

    I'm pretty sure TUF is off this Wednesday because of Thanksgiving. I think they're finishing it up with the two-hour episode on 12/2 with the Finale being on 12/5.

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