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    ArcoArco Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Honestly, if I had the funds to do a sleeper car a cross-country train trip would be wonderful. As several people have said, it has quite a few benefits; you get to relax, you aren't tasked with driving, you aren't in a hurry, it's very scenic, you can see different towns and parts of the country, etc. The problem is that sleeper cars are outrageously expensive. From Reno to Boston is about $300 round trip flying, and almost $1000 round trip on the train if I have a sleeper car. It's just a sleeper car between Reno and Chicago, too. Adding a sleeper car between Chicago and Boston adds even more.

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    emajkutemajkut Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    See, that's all fine, but most people aren't going on vacation to spend it on the train. I want to spend the majority of my vacation in the place I chose to go for vacation. For PAX, I'm definitely looking forward to the train ride, but I wouldn't want to spend three days on it. And especially not for $1000. Wtf.♠

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    capnjackcapnjack Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    emajkut wrote: »
    See, that's all fine, but most people aren't going on vacation to spend it on the train. I want to spend the majority of my vacation in the place I chose to go for vacation. For PAX, I'm definitely looking forward to the train ride, but I wouldn't want to spend three days on it. And especially not for $1000. Wtf.♠

    You just summed up the reason why rail travel has been dying for decades. But, PAXers are doing it for fun regardless of cost. I'm sure some people could get a plane ticket for the same price, but it might not be as fun as this.

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    ZeroHourHeroZeroHourHero Allentown, PARegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Its actually cheaper for me than flying.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited January 2010
    I like traveling in large groups.

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    1up1up Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    What line you will be on: Stone Line
    Name: Reuben Negron (1up) & special guest Leela!
    Location: New Jersey
    Boarding Stop: Philadelphia, PA
    Ticket Purchased: N

    Gonna wait for my tax refund before buying our tickets.

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    suzthegreysuzthegrey Registered User new member
    edited February 2010
    What line you will be on: Stone Line
    Name: Susana
    Location: Northern New Jersey
    Boarding Stop: New York Penn Station
    Ticket Purchased: Y

    I will probably be counted on to bring rice krispie treats, goldfish crackers, my home-made dalmudi deck, an old decrepit laptop and some dvds. My first PAX. Yay Pax train!

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    acumen101acumen101 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Another annoying Bostonian FYI:

    Those coming in from Stone and Lava, you'll both end up at South Station. There's a connection there to the MBTA's Red Line (you shouldn't have used colors when talking about this, because the subway in Boston is color coordinated). The Red Line does not bring you directly to the convention center, but you can connect to the Green Line at Park Street. From there, take any Green Line train but the E line (which are the B, C, and D lines) to the Hynes Convention Center stop.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    According to Amtrak's website, we're departing at Back Bay Station, not South Station, which according to what somebody previously told me, is within walking or short cab distance of the Hynes and surrounding hotels.

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    acumen101acumen101 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Ah, my bad. I'm used to South Station being referred to as the main way into Boston from points south.

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    emajkutemajkut Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Yeah, Stone Line goes into the Back Bay station. Personally I think the convention center is JUST a bit too far to walk while carrying a bunch of luggage, but I'm a lazy ass :P Maybe we can all hijack a bus or something.

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    ElSantosElSantos Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    What line you will be on: Stone Line
    Name: Sam Rosoff
    Location: Bridgeport, CT
    Boarding Stop: Bridgeport, CT
    Ticket Purchased: N

    I'm putting my name down because I definitely want to do this, but I do not know whether I can get Friday off of work yet... :P

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    You are aware the train departs on Thursday, correct?

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    ElSantosElSantos Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Moe Fwacky wrote: »
    You are aware the train departs on Thursday, correct?
    Yep, it doesn't arrive at my stop until after 5, so no conflicts there.

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    ColdbrewColdbrew Down in Front Productions Lake Stevens, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Well it looks like I will be along for the ride after all, blue line of course. I'm not too thrilled about getting into Boston Thursday night, but oh well.

    I'll try to look into it when I can, but how far is the station in Boston from the convention center, and will transportation be easy?

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    Back Bay Station is under a mile from the convention center area, if I'm not mistaken.

    And yeah, I'm not too thrilled about the arrival time either, but it was the only way to get everybody on the same train.

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    ColdbrewColdbrew Down in Front Productions Lake Stevens, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Right, it works.

    I just looked on Google Maps too, it's only a few blocks from the convention center, and the hotel I'm at is even closer. Awesome.

    I hope train delays aren't all too common.

    EDIT: Oh, and does Amtrak charge right away when a ticket is purchased, or not until the day of?

    EDIT2:
    What line you will be on: Blue
    Name: Brian (Coldbrew)
    Location: Everett, WA
    Boarding Stop: Everett
    Ticket Purchased: N

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    They get charged right away. Somewhere there is data on how often certain Amtrak trains are on time. I hope things aren't too bad, I'd hate to get in too late.

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    ColdbrewColdbrew Down in Front Productions Lake Stevens, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    hmm alright.

    Any plans for reverse trips? Or just whatever. I've found the same reverse path (lava to blue) back that leaves Monday which is perfect so it's not a problem but I wouldn't mind going back with people too.

    Oh, and we'll be filming on the trains too for the Community DVD. My other main crew member will be getting on the copper line, so we'll at least film on the lava. Just an FYI.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    I'll be taking that monday train back home, but as with the CCST, I've left people open to plan their own ways home.

    Many props, Coldbrew, for doing the long haul. Are you getting a sleeper on the Blue Line?

    Also, I found the site that lists delays, http://www.amtrakdelays.com
    Looks like the Lava line is 22 minutes early, on average.

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    ColdbrewColdbrew Down in Front Productions Lake Stevens, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    That's really good news. And I don't plan on the sleeper room, I don't exactly have a lot of money to spend. I'll look into it and see how much it actually is, but I doubt it.

    3 days on a train is going to be crazy. They have power outlets and shit right!?

    EDIT: Looks like the Blue line has an average delay of 72 minutes, which should be fine considering it's a 5 hour layover. Awesome site.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    From what I've been told, there are power outlets, although you might want to bring a power strip. The sleeper however is upwards of 300 if memory serves. It's a room for two though, so it could be worth it if you have a traveling buddy.

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    papaprinnypapaprinny Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Howdy,
    I'm the "other main crew member" for the PAX Community DVD. My video camera shall be along for the ride as well, and we'll definitely get some footage on the Lava line.
    Anyway Moe, you should add "ear plugs" to the list of things to bring along. I've never ridden Amtrak, but I imagine it's not the quietest ride for sleeping.

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    ColdbrewColdbrew Down in Front Productions Lake Stevens, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Yeah $216 for a 2 person room. I wish I could afford that, and I'll be by myself on the blue line, aside from the other paxers, so that wont happen.

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    JBob08JBob08 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for the update Arco, I wasn't aware of the difference in seating on the big trips.

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    XirycXiryc Middleburg Hts, OHRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Is there somewhere to park your car at the Cleveland station, Moe? The return trip would have us arriving a little after 3AM, which is too late for me to get a ride from there.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    You know, I'm not sure. I wasn't planning on leaving my car down there anyway. Worse comes to worse, I can always hop a bus home from the train station, but I'd rather not do that at 3am. I can't imagine there not be parking there, but it is downtown, so it might not be free.

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    bubblegumnexbubblegumnex Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Man, I'm so hitting up ETA when I can afford it and have time for it. A double-dose of PAX is well worth it.

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    Drew8800Drew8800 Boston MARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    emajkut wrote: »
    Yeah, Stone Line goes into the Back Bay station. Personally I think the convention center is JUST a bit too far to walk while carrying a bunch of luggage, but I'm a lazy ass :P Maybe we can all hijack a bus or something.

    Believe me, getting a cab at Back Bay to go the Hynes or to a hotel right by there is a waste of money (unless the weather is awful or there's a lot of snow on the ground & it's impossible to walk safely.) It's a few blocks - not very far at all - and is a lot easier/closer than it looks on a map. Plus, the streets are all one-way in the Copley Square area, so it's a good chance a cab would take longer than walking, and cabbies would exploit your lack of area knowledge.

    Also, there's been a few people who have mentioned getting off at South Station then transferring onto the T (local subway). As mentioned, the Green Line E train does not stop at Hynes, but it does stop at Prudential, which is attached to the convention center and a couple of the hotels. For those that don't know, the Prudential Center is a pretty decent sized mall and has a good food court.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    I honestly don't know why anybody would get off at South Station, unless their hotel is closer to South Station than to Back Bay Station.

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    WhereMyArmWhereMyArm Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Coldbrew wrote: »
    I just looked on Google Maps too, it's only a few blocks from the convention center, and the hotel I'm at is even closer. Awesome.

    Oh sweet, I didn't realize the convention center (and the Colonnade, where we're staying) are literally right around the corner from BBY station, that'll save us some money on a cab to and from. Good to hear about another on the Blue Line, this is sounding like more fun every time I check the thread.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    I'm staying at the Colonnade too. We can walk over together.

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    ColdbrewColdbrew Down in Front Productions Lake Stevens, WARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    WhereMyArm wrote: »
    Coldbrew wrote: »
    I just looked on Google Maps too, it's only a few blocks from the convention center, and the hotel I'm at is even closer. Awesome.

    Oh sweet, I didn't realize the convention center (and the Colonnade, where we're staying) are literally right around the corner from BBY station, that'll save us some money on a cab to and from. Good to hear about another on the Blue Line, this is sounding like more fun every time I check the thread.

    Yeah it seems like a nice hotel, and I agree, the train should be fun (if i can keep busy for 3 days) and just this whole event and trip is going to be insane, I've never left the time zone I live in, so i just don't know what to expect.

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    feitocomfrutafeitocomfruta Denver, Colorado, USARegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm going around to all the threads where I said I was going and pulling that out. I still don't have a job (after graduating last MAY, I really have no idea on what I can do now... existential crisis and all) so I don't have the finances to go to East. Hopefully I can go to Prime.

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    PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Moe Fwacky wrote: »
    They get charged right away. Somewhere there is data on how often certain Amtrak trains are on time. I hope things aren't too bad, I'd hate to get in too late.

    1) The N.E. is really good about being close to on time as amtrak owns the rails.

    2) I've never taken amtrak and had it arrive on time.

    I know people at amtrak - They say the killer with amtrak delays is that freightlines own the rails in most places and will (illegally) stop trains to move their cargo trains around, or will put a freight train with a top speed of 30 mph in front of a passenger train that can go 80.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    Well, sounds like freight trains are to amtrak just as much assholes as truckers are to drivers (particularly the ccst) on the road. Well, as long as Amtrak owns most of the lines we'll be on, it should be good.

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    emajkutemajkut Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Judging by the map on this page: http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer/AM_Route_C/1241245664423/1237405732511/OTPPageHorizontalRouteOverview/perf

    It looks like the Lava Line will ride entirely on Norfolk Southern and CSX rails. That page also says it's on time about 80% of the time, though.

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    yanamalyanamal Registered User new member
    edited February 2010
    Whee, I just bought the tickets!
    (and then registered on the forums just to tell everyone about it...)

    What line you will be on: Stone line
    Name: Yana
    Location: Central New Jersey
    Boarding Stop: Metropark
    Ticket Purchased: Y

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    WhereMyArmWhereMyArm Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Oh cool Moe, that's good to know. I'm surprised more people didn't choose the Colonnade, I think I got a pretty good rate. I guess the Sheraton is a little closer, though.

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    Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited February 2010
    The Sheraton is attached to the convention center. By the time I registered my hotel, the Sheraton was sold out. It's my understanding that more rooms became available later, but I didn't feel like dealing with canceling and reserving another room. Plus somebody mentioned that the Colonnade rooms are bigger.

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