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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    I would have less sympathy for WTO et al protesters if the cops weren't utter cockbags

    I would have less sympathy for cops if the WTO et al protesters weren't utter cockbags

    The protesters aren't abusing the powers afforded them by their job, nor do they benefit from a sickening presumption of innocence when they do all manner of heinous shit

    The protesters are at least providing a useful service to society in baiting these sociopathic fucks into outing themselves.

    No?

    Black people do that. Protesters get beat up by good and bad cop alike.

    Go jerk off to some corpse porn, casket

    I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee

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  • CindersCinders You’re either ready to reap this freaky-assed harvest or you’re not. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    In other news, the Native American casinos are shooting off fireworks for some reason.

  • RustRust __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    because they've got guns and tasers and don't have to improvi- oh what the hell am i doing thirty minutes ago you were posting hypothetically about chopping people up and throwing them into a fjord

    we don't even have fjords, you can't comment on our cops

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I need someone to go through the music I have not listened to yet and delete the stuff I will not like

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.

  • ElldrenElldren 3067-6294-6208Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Senj: it is bad all around.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    No they tear gas college kids exercising their right to peaceably assemble

    much better

    Your example? Yes. Burning gasoline stings just a tad more than tear gas.

    But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee

    Sure but it extends beyond the line-cops

    it's the higher ups who promulgate the use of less-lethal weapons as compliance devices instead of last-resort alternatives to shooting someone, or sign off on purchases like those god awful sonic canons.

    And all that blue line bullshit that will cover the asses of the bad ones out theretear gassing people for standing around or curb-stomping people in the cover of a riot

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • ElldrenElldren 3067-6294-6208Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It is bad.

    All over.

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Senj: it is bad all around.

    It's a false equivalence. The protesters aren't walking around with state-sanctioned weapons and a lot of leeway to employ them the rest of the year

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.

    do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs

    really

    rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I hate skits, intros and outros

    they should not be included on albums

  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    No they tear gas college kids exercising their right to peaceably assemble

    much better

    Your example? Yes. Burning gasoline stings just a tad more than tear gas.

    But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?

    They basically do whatever the fuck they want because they're never punished appropriately for misconduct. Sometimes whatever they want is their job. Other times it involves tear gas before it's necessary. Other times it involves beating the shit out of random dudes on a bike. Other times it involves shooting helpless people. Depends on the cop. Really the solution is to punish them appropriately when they fuck up.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    What album are listening to, Skippy?

  • ElldrenElldren 3067-6294-6208Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Senj: it is bad all around.

    It's a false equivalence. The protesters aren't walking around with state-sanctioned weapons and a lot of leeway to employ them the rest of the year

    The protesters are not responding to a large gathering of violent police.

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.

    do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs

    really

    rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm

    teargas != firebombs

    but having been gassed by the military during basic, I can attest that cs sucks mightily

  • RustRust __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    No they tear gas college kids exercising their right to peaceably assemble

    much better

    Your example? Yes. Burning gasoline stings just a tad more than tear gas.

    But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?

    They basically do whatever the fuck they want because they're never punished appropriately for misconduct. Sometimes whatever they want is their job. Other times it involves tear gas before it's necessary. Other times it involves beating the shit out of random dudes on a bike. Other times it involves shooting helpless people. Depends on the cop. Really the solution is to punish them appropriately when they fuck up.

    which will never happen because the united states has a great big hard-on for authority and an infantile view of right and wrong

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What album are listening to, Skippy?

    I am skipping through my itunes, deleting songs that suck

    because I have too much shit I have not listened to yet

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee

    Sure but it extends beyond the line-cops

    it's the higher ups who promulgate the use of less-lethal weapons as compliance devices instead of last-resort alternatives to shooting someone, or sign off on purchases like those god awful sonic canons.

    And all that blue line bullshit that will cover the asses of the bad ones out theretear gassing people for standing around or curb-stomping people in the cover of a riot

    Yeah I agree with you, I was just making a stupid point that protesters aren't even good for showing who's the sadistic assholes

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    But for serious, how bad are the cops about striking down on protests that are really legal and so on?

    Historically pretty bad. I know that here they were really heavy-handed when the G8 conference was at Gleneagles, but they're better about things like Faslane, probably because there has been a permanent protest camp there since the 70s.

    It is considered so permanent that it has it's own postcode and BT ran broadband cable to it.

  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I'm just saying that in a protest, it's hard to see who is horrified by the violence and who is swinging the nightstick with maniacal glee

    Sure but it extends beyond the line-cops

    it's the higher ups who promulgate the use of less-lethal weapons as compliance devices instead of last-resort alternatives to shooting someone, or sign off on purchases like those god awful sonic canons.

    And all that blue line bullshit that will cover the asses of the bad ones out theretear gassing people for standing around or curb-stomping people in the cover of a riot

    Yeah I agree with you, I was just making a stupid point that protesters aren't even good for showing who's the sadistic assholes

    oh

    well then

    carry on

    ps I do not really think you are casket

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • ElldrenElldren 3067-6294-6208Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    goddamned luddites

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.

    do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs

    really

    rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm

    teargas != firebombs

    but having been gassed by the military during basic, I can attest that cs sucks mightily

    having played with fire enough as a kid, I can say that getting burned fucking sucks and is also pretty dangerous

    I was just making a point that protesters don't use less-lethal weapons

    in other news I just can't wait until I get to be gassed by the military during basic next year. I'm having enough trouble cutting onions.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu fiddy too Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Senj: it is bad all around.

    It's a false equivalence. The protesters aren't walking around with state-sanctioned weapons and a lot of leeway to employ them the rest of the year

    The protesters are not responding to a large gathering of violent police.

    ehhh, I've seen more than a few of these things escalate to violence because of police aggression

    mainstream reporting of these events tends to be just this side of outright propaganda

    Sarksus wrote: »
    I'm gonna get a PhD in incest.
  • CindersCinders You’re either ready to reap this freaky-assed harvest or you’re not. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Is there some holiday today that I don't know about? Cause I really can't think of a reason for the fireworks show.

  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.

    do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs

    really

    rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm

    You do realise that CS gas is quite capable of killing people through repiratory distress.

    Also, on balance, I'm not sure there is much to choose from between being beaten unprotected with a blunt instrument and being firebombed while wearing armour.

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    remember remember the 26th of september?

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Greeper wrote: »
    Guy Fawkes day

    That's November.

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck ill-ass lemony snicket Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    time for a shower?

  • ElldrenElldren 3067-6294-6208Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I really wish that the police didn't need to be there.

  • CindersCinders You’re either ready to reap this freaky-assed harvest or you’re not. Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    japan wrote: »
    Greeper wrote: »
    Guy Fawkes day

    That's November.

    I would be confused as to why the Seminole tribe was celebrating that holiday.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Amusing things you get to do with CS:

    First, jog and work out alot until you're good and sweaty. CS gas will burn wherever you're sweaty, that's why. Well inside the room, holding your breath, you're all going to say your name and service number out loud.

    Now you know what that feels like. Now, you get a gas mask! glee!

    But you don't get to put it on before the gas comes on. Oh no, you need to learn how to blow the gas out and how to quickly seal it properly.

    Now you know that the gas masks fucking suck. Well, next time you're actually going to wear it before the gas comes on. How grand!

    But you're going to have to eat this biscuit in there. So take it off, chew well, then put it on again and experience once again, that if this was sarin gas you should put your head beetween your knees and kiss your ass godbye instead of bothering with the mask

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  • GimGim Support purple causes, listen to Black Sabbath, count only blue cars Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    time for a shower?

    *activates webcam*

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    japan wrote: »
    Greeper wrote: »
    Guy Fawkes day

    That's November.

    I know when it is.

    I was lying.

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  • ElldrenElldren 3067-6294-6208Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I wouldn't mind holding a counter-protest.

    Would probably be dangerous.

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Cops never throw molotov cocktails at protesters

    I'd generally consider CS gas, batons and water cannons to be at least equivalent to Molotov cocktails in any hypothetical escalation diagram.

    do you really consider stinging eyes to be the equivalent of firebombs

    really

    rubber bullets = cocktails, maybe, because they both do lots of harm

    You do realise that CS gas is quite capable of killing people through repiratory distress.

    Also, on balance, I'm not sure there is much to choose from between being beaten unprotected with a blunt instrument and being firebombed while wearing armour.

    I'd be beaten any day. Bruises heal, bones set. And people dying from CS gas is pretty rare. I'm just saying the police are actually trying in theory to minimize harm. You all live in civilized countries.

    EDIT: Yes, even the americans

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind holding a counter-protest.

    Would probably be dangerous.

    On the plus side, you can't really get into another fight with a better moral high ground

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  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »

    I'm just saying the police are actually trying in theory to minimize harm.

    Substantiate your claim.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »

    I'm just saying the police are actually trying in theory to minimize harm.

    Substantiate your claim.

    They're using batons instead of shotguns

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