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Looking for the something as good as Deus Ex

For me the original Deus Ex (PC version) is still the best thinking shooter I have ever played. The execution of a good story, depth in game play, "realism", freedom, good graphics and sound...

Only problem with Deus Ex is that after multiple replays there really is no more fun to be extracted from it :cry:

Over the years I have played tons of games. Some very good ones and also so pretty crappy ones and now I am looking for a new game to get. Perhaps the combined knowledge of the PA forum can point me in the right direction?


It does not have to be a new game but older than Deus Ex will be a hard sell 8-)

Platform wise I'm flexible with a 360, a PS3, a G4 Mac and a PC upgraded just last week (i7 870, Radeon 4890...) even though I have to say to keyboard+mouse is the preferred control method.

Apart from Deus Ex games I have on my gaming fun list is (the thinking shooter part of it):

NOLF+NOLF2 (Great scenery, game play twists and humor but linear)
Half Life (First half taking place in the "real" world, also to linear)
Half Life 2 (Puzzles to easy and to linear)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (Great, and the potential much more in games to come)
Project I.G.I. (I loved the great maps)
Halo 1,2 and 3. (To easy on PC. to linear and a lot of copy&paste used to make levels)
Max Payne 1+2
Thirteen
Far Cry
Unreal (So many great moments - did you guys see the guards playing dice?)
F.E.A.R. (Great AI and scary)
Duke Nukem 3D
Terminator Future Shock (AFAIK first PC game with mouselook)

Some games are on this list because of over-all quality and others are there because they a decent plus have something unique making them fun.

So what have I missed over the years? And is there anything recent I must buy? (I am getting the new S.T.A.L.K.E.R. plus Bioshock and Crysis is on my shopping list)

If enough people post I shall try and compile a complete must-play list 8-)

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  • AdditionalPylonsAdditionalPylons Registered User regular
    Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines and Stalker Clear Sky(if you didnt played it yet)

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  • Edgler VessEdgler Vess Registered User regular
    System Shock 2...may be hard to get it to run though

  • admanbadmanb the bored genie Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    System Shock 2...may be hard to get it to run though

    There are patches and such out there that make it run smoothly on my modern XP machine.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    I approve of all suggestions thus far.

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    The Nameless Mod for Deus Ex.

    The only thing as good as Deus Ex is more Deus Ex.

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  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    Looking for the something as good as Deus Ex
    I'm gonna go ahead and stop you right there. If this is really what you're looking for, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

    I agree with mere_immortal; The Nameless Mod is your best bet.

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  • P10P10 Registered User regular
    Stalker: Call of Pripyat will be coming out in the future and since you were a fan of Stalker it will probably help scratch the itch.

    Seconding The Nameless Mod. It's awesome. Every Deus Ex fan needs to play it.

    Deus Ex 2 wasn't as bad as people say, especially if you just want the gameplay and don't mind the story so much.

  • BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    Thank you all for the input.

    I shall take a look at the nameless Mod for sure and the Vampire game as well.

    As for System Shock 2 it is one which I have had a go at but it does feel it's age. Maybe I should try again.


    Deus Ex 2. Oh, there is a tragedy. I still recall hearing it was to be both a PC and XBOX game and the promises made by Spector it would not suffer from it (which is sort believed knowing the PS2 version of Deus Ex was good. That man is gonna burn in his afterlife for a lie of that magnitude.
    Come demo time it was very clear how much the XBOX had destroyed the game it was even so that the HUD settings in the demo was left in console settings (easy to see because everyone knew the Unreal-engine settings files).

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    Why are there only three FPS/RPG hybrids? Bloodlines, System Shock, Deus Ex. Are those kinds of games difficult to develop or something?

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Why are there only three FPS/RPG hybrids? Bloodlines, System Shock, Deus Ex. Are those kinds of games difficult to develop or something?

    Bioshock, No One Lives Forever 2, Fallout 3, etc. would like to have a word with you.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    Freespace 2 is categorically and objectively the best video game ever made.

    Also Mass Effect is worth a look.

  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Why are there only three FPS/RPG hybrids? Bloodlines, System Shock, Deus Ex. Are those kinds of games difficult to develop or something?

    Bioshock, No One Lives Forever 2, Fallout 3, etc. would like to have a word with you.

    Oooh yeah. You could manage stats in NOLF 2 so I guess that makes it RPG-ish. That said, these six games we've listed are loved by fans and there should be a lot more imitators of Warren Spector's work.

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  • HozHoz Registered User regular
    Bioshock... Fallout 3...
    There you go, this dude right here just named the two games you can occupy yourself with for the next month.

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck Registered User regular
    VTM bloodlines. Every other game mentioned will not suck you in in the same way. PLAY EET

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Registered User regular
    System Shock 2...may be hard to get it to run though

    Another vote for System Shock 2. Indeed, SS2 got me to play Deus Ex.

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  • ZellZell Registered User
    which is sort believed knowing the PS2 version of Deus Ex was good.
    No it wasn't, it had way worse level design with more and longer loading times in it.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    Hoz wrote: »
    Bioshock... Fallout 3...
    There you go, this dude right here just named the two games you can occupy yourself with for the next month.

    Dude, don't cut out NOLF2. It wasn't as good as the first one but I still played the shit out of it.

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  • HozHoz Registered User regular
    Well, he already played NOLF 2.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    Uh, there was a fly walking on my monitor as I scrolled through the OP and it just always happened to be over NOLF2.

    Ignore me, I'm retarded.

    EDIT: Oh and by the way I thought that CyClones was the first PC shooter with mouselook.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    Thief 3 and FEAR 2 are worth playing too

  • HozHoz Registered User regular
    But worth buying is another matter.

  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    Hurpadurpa 20 bucks is too much for a game abloopadoopaodop

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    Oh yeah, Oblivion is also a FPS/RPG if you take Marskman or Destruction.

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  • HozHoz Registered User regular
    Robman wrote: »
    Hurpadurpa 20 bucks is too much for a game abloopadoopaodop
    For mediocre ones, yes.

  • NoneoftheaboveNoneoftheabove Registered User
    There's a mod out there for System Shock 2, it's called "Rebirth".
    This mod updates the characters and monster models. They look far better, but not at all the standards of today.

  • HozHoz Registered User regular
    Robman wrote: »
    You just keep saying obviously false things
    It can't be obviously false because it's obviously an opinion.

    And I feel the need to share it so there is something to warn this poor lad from wasting his money.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    There's a mod out there for System Shock 2, it's called "Rebirth".
    This mod updates the characters and monster models. They look far better, but not at all the standards of today.

    You should make sure and get the original skin for the cybernetic midwives though

    Because

    warning picture contains tits

    Ehhhhh

    is not as scary as

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    OH MY GOD KILL IT WITH FIRE

    even though the graphics are technically better in the first one.

    I think there's even a redone model for the second one but I can't find it.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    Sunshine lollypops and rainbows (post no longer relevant)

  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    Everything you need for SS2 is right here. The complemented version of rebirth comes with a reskinned version of the original midwife model.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    Robman wrote: »
    Dude you just posted a picture with tits in it, SFW that shit ASAP before a mod sends you AWOL for life

    Sorry about that. I didn't even notice 'em.

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  • RenegenRenegen Registered User
    NOLF 1 is better than NOLF 2, and it's longer and has a great story. The second does have superior graphics.

    Also play Thief 2 and Thief 3. Thief 2 has dated graphics but incredible gameplay and storytelling. Thief 3 has good graphics, and pretty good in every other area.

    Thief 4 is coming out so you better be ready!

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    Renegen wrote: »
    NOLF 1 is better than NOLF 2, and it's longer and has a great story. The second does have superior graphics.

    Also play Thief 2 and Thief 3. Thief 2 has dated graphics but incredible gameplay and storytelling. Thief 3 has good graphics, and pretty good in every other area.

    Thief 4 is coming out so you better be ready!

    NOLF 2 is the better installment IMO, it was just... so... wacky

    EDIT mime boss chase >>>> all

  • RenegenRenegen Registered User
    That's true, it was wacky.. but it felt rushed by the end. NOLF was perfect the whole way through, besides 1 or 2 small missions. That game had perfect pace, perfect storytelling and writing. The jokes didn't feel forced, they just kept coming. It just all seemed to fit far better.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Why are there only three FPS/RPG hybrids? Bloodlines, System Shock, Deus Ex. Are those kinds of games difficult to develop or something?

    Bioshock, No One Lives Forever 2, Fallout 3, etc. would like to have a word with you.

    Why do people keep saying that Bioshock is an FPSRPG? It isn't. Really. Unless you count "choose your plasmids and weapon upgrades" as RPG. You don't get stronger as you go, you don't level up, you get X number of Bioshock dollars occasionally and get to choose some alt weapons.

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  • BurnageBurnage Just a harmless flower Registered User regular
    Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines has more than enough colons and FPS/RPG goodness to satisfy your every desire. I actually enjoyed it more than Deus Ex, but that's personal preference.

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Fake Nerd I just want to be lovedRegistered User regular
    jclast wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Why are there only three FPS/RPG hybrids? Bloodlines, System Shock, Deus Ex. Are those kinds of games difficult to develop or something?

    Bioshock, No One Lives Forever 2, Fallout 3, etc. would like to have a word with you.

    Why do people keep saying that Bioshock is an FPSRPG? It isn't. Really. Unless you count "choose your plasmids and weapon upgrades" as RPG. You don't get stronger as you go, you don't level up, you get X number of Bioshock dollars occasionally and get to choose some alt weapons.

    It's very light on RPG elements, but actually, yes, you do improve as the game goes. You get health and energy upgrades, your weapons become more powerful and you gain more abilities.

    Just because it doesn't have 18 menu screens to handle your alchemy and your journal and your dishes and whatnot doesn't mean it isn't an FPSRPG.

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  • RenegenRenegen Registered User
    It's debatable whether you get stronger as you move along. I remember early enemies taking only 2-3 wrenches to die and the SAME enemy hours later when I took every single wrench upgrade I could find took like 10 hits with the wrench. It's certainly a bit new and kinda fits the mold, but it's not the first option you should jump to.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User
    jclast wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Why are there only three FPS/RPG hybrids? Bloodlines, System Shock, Deus Ex. Are those kinds of games difficult to develop or something?

    Bioshock, No One Lives Forever 2, Fallout 3, etc. would like to have a word with you.

    Why do people keep saying that Bioshock is an FPSRPG? It isn't. Really. Unless you count "choose your plasmids and weapon upgrades" as RPG. You don't get stronger as you go, you don't level up, you get X number of Bioshock dollars occasionally and get to choose some alt weapons.

    Because the game can be described quite accurately as "System Shock 2 underwater with less inventory management".

    My suggestion is to give SS2 another shot, and if you can't handle the bad aging even with the mods than play BioShock instead.

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  • ElitistbElitistb Registered User regular
    Deus Ex 2 wasn't as bad as people say, especially if you just want the gameplay and don't mind the story so much.
    Saw this on page 1 and just want to add some to this.

    "Deus Ex 2 wasn't as bad as people say, especially if you just want the gameplay and don't mind the story, the weapons, the inventory, the lack of upgradable elements such as skills, the lack of locational damage, and the ammunition."

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