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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I just couldn't get myself into prototype for some reason.

    I think it's because I couldn't empathize with the main character at all for some reason.

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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck bridge and scrunnel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Okay so you don't actually care about the gameplay, you just think massively multiplayer games are useless because you'd rather just play with a group of friends. Some people disagree; they enjoy the persistent nature of the world they're in, they like that they can make their character their own and customize them with clothing and weapons, they like that they can make some kind of impact on another player's experience.

    Edit: Matt, stop being obtuse. Inquisitor gave you a short description of the gameplay. It's obvious that there's more to the game than dodging. It's a third-person shooter. They're complex.
    No, I do care about the gameplay, there's just nothing here that hasn't been done plenty before. They skinned every generic MMO out there with guns and cars. They're selling you subscription-based GTA4 multiplayer where you can have your character play dressup.

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  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in mah dickRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    BobCesca wrote: »
    Gonmun wrote:

    o_O That's a bit different way to look at things.

    Apart from this slight craziness she has been fairly good to me and is very supportive (pays the uni fees and the living costs and everything).

    Well, it's good that she's supportive in that sense. The rest of it, at least to me, makes it sound like "All men are evul!" type stuff. I'm sure it's not the case but upon first reading it that's how it sounded.

    desc wrote: »
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  • SarksusSarksus Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Matt it's pretty obvious to everyone here that you're intentionally simplifying the game in order to cast it in a negative light. When you have to resort to that it's clear that you have no basis for the claims that you're making. You're arguing from two separate positions, one being that gameplay is important and dodging is not a significant addition to gameplay despite you having seen videos that shows that it plays quite similar to GTA which brings much more than dodging to the table and the other position being that it isn't gameplay that concerns you but rather that MMOs are worthless and it would just be better if you could play the same game with a small group of friends. You're caught in a contradiction.

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck bridge and scrunnel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    Mylaptopwon'tstartmylaptopwon'tstartmylaptopwon'tstart

    Oh god, guys, what do I do?

    *kicks laptop*

    *Hakkes cowers*

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    matt you are being a whiner

    you are whining about other people being enthusiastic about something that you are clearly predisposed to not liking

    quit being a shit
    I'm not predisposed to anything. I watched the first video released, the character creation one, and thought "OK, so what, you can make your own character, what about the game? Why does the first video they release have nothing to do with playing the game?" So I read what info there was, then watched the gameplay videos when they got released and though, "OK, so what? It's GTA4 but bigger." People are fucking falling down because you can put a tattoo on something, the game's all pretty and shit. Who cares? You're still running around doing the same old stuff.

    the game was basically marketing itself as a GTA-style MMORPG

    what

    what exactly were you expecting?

    what it is showing off in videos and such is consistent with what they are marketing the game as

    which was a open-city crime game where you played as criminals or cops

    like a hi-tech online cops and robbers

    do you honestly think all games in the same genre are the exact same?

    because let me tell you

    GTA4 and Saints Row 2 are pretty different games, despite being ostensibly being the same genre of game

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Gonmun wrote: »
    BobCesca wrote: »

    o_O That's a bit different way to look at things.

    Apart from this slight craziness she has been fairly good to me and is very supportive (pays the uni fees and the living costs and everything).

    Well, it's good that she's supportive in that sense. The rest of it, at least to me, makes it sound like "All men are evul!" type stuff. I'm sure it's not the case but upon first reading it that's how it sounded.

    Cesca's Mum has published books on Feminism.

    I have never read them, and I'm not certain that it would be a good idea to.

  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    I had dinner bitches, and ice cream!

    With mother fucking chocolate sauce.

  • TL DRTL DR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    oh hello chat

    Haiiiiii

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dude, seriously, you said the difference was that you can dodge a bullet and not a fireball. This is not a purchase-worthy difference. FUCK YES I CAN DODGE EVERYTHING IS AWESOME NOW.

    I should probably just give up on this conversation at this point but...

    You realize you can't dodge things in 99% of MMOs on the market, right?

    By making it so you can dodge projectiles, and the enemy can dodge yours, you create a basic level of mind games and strategy that will hopefully lead to some good yomi.

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Dude, seriously, you said the difference was that you can dodge a bullet and not a fireball. This is not a purchase-worthy difference. FUCK YES I CAN DODGE EVERYTHING IS AWESOME NOW.

    I should probably just give up on this conversation at this point but...

    You realize you can't dodge things in 99% of MMOs on the market, right?

    By making it so you can dodge projectiles, and the enemy can dodge yours, you create a basic level of mind games and strategy that will hopefully lead to some good yomi.

    I knew you were into that kind of stuff.

    Gross.

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  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in mah dickRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    japan wrote: »
    Gonmun wrote: »
    BobCesca wrote: »

    o_O That's a bit different way to look at things.

    Apart from this slight craziness she has been fairly good to me and is very supportive (pays the uni fees and the living costs and everything).

    Well, it's good that she's supportive in that sense. The rest of it, at least to me, makes it sound like "All men are evul!" type stuff. I'm sure it's not the case but upon first reading it that's how it sounded.

    Cesca's Mum has published books on Feminism.

    I have never read them, and I'm not certain that it would be a good idea to.

    Oh...well then that sort of explains why I got that impression.

    desc wrote: »
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  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck bridge and scrunnel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    oh hello chat

    Haiiiiii

    I have 1 hour until I go watch football

    but no one is playing TF2 on a sunday morning!

    :(

  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I just went back to my laptop and I still had a load of wiki pages about citrus fruit open.

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nothing gets me quite as hot as some good yomi.

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2009
    Gonmun wrote: »
    Mylaptopwon'tstartmylaptopwon'tstartmylaptopwon'tstart

    Oh god, guys, what do I do?

    First off, let me reach through my monitor and slap you back to your senses. Next, start doing regular troubleshooting (ie check to make sure the damn thing is plugged in, battery charged, etc.).

    Well, what happened was I was using it on the train and playing some Monkey Island for a short bit so I changed it from power-save mode to high performance (I only had a few more minutes), I played it a bit and then the screen went dark but I could still hear the music, so I shut it down. Then when I got home I tried to plug it in and turn it on and the blue "I'm starting" lights popped up but the screen didn't change. I tried plugging it into my mom's monitor and that worked, and I went to use the window's repair thing, but then it shut off. Now my computer won't do anything, even flash any lights or anything.

    I plugged it in to charge it and left it for a while, didn't work. I tried pulling out the battery and plugging it directly into the wall, didn't work. I'm seriously freaked out now.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Guys, how do you transfer your cell phone carrier? Like, do I need to cancel with Verizon before I go to T-Mobile or can T-Mobile do all that for me?

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  • SarksusSarksus Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Okay Matt is still saying that APB, and by extension GTA, is just a reskin of World of Warcraft, so I am pretty sure he's either full of shit or trolling me. Regardless, I don't want to spend my precious day off arguing about this anymore.

  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Cesca how did your mom ever manage to have you?

  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh man, I haven't played TF2 in forever, I really should remedy this.

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  • SarksusSarksus Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    Guys, how do you transfer your cell phone carrier? Like, do I need to cancel with Verizon before I go to T-Mobile or can T-Mobile do all that for me?

    If you port your number over to a new carrier your previous carrier will usually cancel your service automatically.

  • BogartBogart MR. Lady Anime Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    japan wrote: »
    I just went back to my laptop and I still had a load of wiki pages about citrus fruit open.

    That's some pretty specialised porn, man.

  • skippydumptruckskippydumptruck bridge and scrunnel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    Guys, how do you transfer your cell phone carrier? Like, do I need to cancel with Verizon before I go to T-Mobile or can T-Mobile do all that for me?

    your new carrier takes care of it

  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in mah dickRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    moniker wrote: »
    Guys, how do you transfer your cell phone carrier? Like, do I need to cancel with Verizon before I go to T-Mobile or can T-Mobile do all that for me?

    Were you planning on bringing your cell phone number to another carrier?

    desc wrote: »
    ~ * swole patrol flying roundhouse kick top performer recognition: April 2014 * ~

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Matt it's pretty obvious to everyone here that you're intentionally simplifying the game in order to cast it in a negative light. When you have to resort to that it's clear that you have no basis for the claims that you're making. You're arguing from two separate positions, one being that gameplay is important and dodging is not a significant addition to gameplay despite you having seen videos that shows that it plays quite similar to GTA which brings much more than dodging to the table and the other position being that it isn't gameplay that concerns you but rather that MMOs are worthless and it would just be better if you could play the same game with a small group of friends. You're caught in a contradiction.
    Look.

    This started with "Don't show me character creation, show me gameplay.".

    Moved into "Gameplay doesn't look like anything I haven't seen before."

    And finally into "Dressup in GTA4 for $15 or whatever a month isn't a feature that's going to get me to play the game, when I can already do it for free in GTA4."

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  • BobCescaBobCesca Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Cesca how did your mom ever manage to have you?

    she's not a rabid feminist at all.

    She just had a paranoia about me dropping out of Uni. I think. Plus, she had me essentially wrapped in cotton wool from when I was 12 'cos I'd been so ill for so long.

  • TL DRTL DR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    skippy I can TF2 for an hour or so

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Gonmun wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Guys, how do you transfer your cell phone carrier? Like, do I need to cancel with Verizon before I go to T-Mobile or can T-Mobile do all that for me?

    Were you planning on bringing your cell phone number to another carrier?

    Yeah, since I'd rather not be arsed to figure out who to tell. Plus you can't port Google Voice numbers, I don't think.

    So they take care of everything? Good, good.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bogart wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    I just went back to my laptop and I still had a load of wiki pages about citrus fruit open.

    That's some pretty specialised porn, man.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    APB's gameplay innovations have to be taken into light compared to other MMORPGs

    the majority of MMORPGs on the market right now use more or less the same gameplay concepts and combat system.

    in basically every MMORPG right now you click on a target, who stays your target until you change your target, and you press number keys until he dies.

    you can't "miss" unless the game's to-hit rolls say you miss. the actual player's ability to aim or maneuver is largely irrelevant

    MMORPGs do this for a bunch of reasons. the main one is WoW does it, and WoW is the MMORPG that makes all the others say "Marsha Marsha Marsha!"

    but it's also a networking issue. MMORPGs have to do massive amounts of more data management and packet moving compared to say, a game of TF2. Real-time aiming, being able to actually move around and the player's actual skill and hand-eye coordination, is a difficult thing to net-code for a MMORPG and it makes most MMO developers shy away from it.

    APB is rocking out with it's cock out and having real-time aiming, which is a big deal for MMORPGs.

    but, you're just being a whiner

    so this post is mostly irrelevant

  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Cesca what you should do is ...

    damn it, you lizard people are tricksy.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I mean seriously it's been straight up said that APB is what they wish they could've done with GTA, that Crackdown gave them trouble because of how similar it was to APB, and rumors that they even tried to sell Rockstar the APB idea and turn it into a GTA MMO.

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  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Oh man, I haven't played TF2 in forever, I really should remedy this.

    Might aswell as be playing everquest man.

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  • PasserbyePasserbye The Woman Who Is Not Short at The Moonlite All-Nite Diner; a glass box full of bad food and good people.Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    BobCesca wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Cesca how did your mom ever manage to have you?

    she's not a rabid feminist at all.

    She just had a paranoia about me dropping out of Uni. I think. Plus, she had me essentially wrapped in cotton wool from when I was 12 'cos I'd been so ill for so long.

    Oh I don't actually think she is, I was just teasing. Moms worry about their kids, it isn't always logical. I get it.

    Out of curiosity, why are you so sick? If it's ok to ask, that is.

  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS
    edited October 2009
    BobCesca wrote: »
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Cesca how did your mom ever manage to have you?

    she's not a rabid feminist at all.

    She just had a paranoia about me dropping out of Uni. I think. Plus, she had me essentially wrapped in cotton wool from when I was 12 'cos I'd been so ill for so long.

    She tried to suffocate you!?

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  • SarksusSarksus Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Matt it's pretty obvious to everyone here that you're intentionally simplifying the game in order to cast it in a negative light. When you have to resort to that it's clear that you have no basis for the claims that you're making. You're arguing from two separate positions, one being that gameplay is important and dodging is not a significant addition to gameplay despite you having seen videos that shows that it plays quite similar to GTA which brings much more than dodging to the table and the other position being that it isn't gameplay that concerns you but rather that MMOs are worthless and it would just be better if you could play the same game with a small group of friends. You're caught in a contradiction.
    Look.

    This started with "Don't show me character creation, show me gameplay.".

    Moved into "Gameplay doesn't look like anything I haven't seen before."

    And finally into "Dressup in GTA4 for $15 or whatever a month isn't a feature that's going to get me to play the game, when I can already do it for free in GTA4."

    And this is an inaccurate characterization of what the game offers. Since you can't see that we're done here.

  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    APB's gameplay innovations have to be taken into light compared to other MMORPGs

    the majority of MMORPGs on the market right now use more or less the same gameplay concepts and combat system.

    in basically every MMORPG right now you click on a target, who stays your target until you change your target, and you press number keys until he dies.

    you can't "miss" unless the game's to-hit rolls say you miss. the actual player's ability to aim or maneuver is largely irrelevant

    MMORPGs do this for a bunch of reasons. the main one is WoW does it, and WoW is the MMORPG that makes all the others say "Marsha Marsha Marsha!"

    but it's also a networking issue. MMORPGs have to do massive amounts of more data management and packet moving compared to say, a game of TF2. Real-time aiming, being able to actually move around and the player's actual skill and hand-eye coordination, is a difficult thing to net-code for a MMORPG and it makes most MMO developers shy away from it.

    APB is rocking out with it's cock out and having real-time aiming, which is a big deal for MMORPGs.

    but, you're just being a whiner

    so this post is mostly irrelevant
    Again, congratulations, they've caught up with every FPS multiplayer game ever.

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  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in mah dickRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Gonmun wrote: »
    Mylaptopwon'tstartmylaptopwon'tstartmylaptopwon'tstart

    Oh god, guys, what do I do?

    First off, let me reach through my monitor and slap you back to your senses. Next, start doing regular troubleshooting (ie check to make sure the damn thing is plugged in, battery charged, etc.).

    Well, what happened was I was using it on the train and playing some Monkey Island for a short bit so I changed it from power-save mode to high performance (I only had a few more minutes), I played it a bit and then the screen went dark but I could still hear the music, so I shut it down. Then when I got home I tried to plug it in and turn it on and the blue "I'm starting" lights popped up but the screen didn't change. I tried plugging it into my mom's monitor and that worked, and I went to use the window's repair thing, but then it shut off. Now my computer won't do anything, even flash any lights or anything.

    I plugged it in to charge it and left it for a while, didn't work. I tried pulling out the battery and plugging it directly into the wall, didn't work. I'm seriously freaked out now.

    At any point was it bumped around possibly? Did you try taking the HD out and then put it back in then try and restart?

    It's sounding eerily similar to what happened with my laptop when some O/S files got corrupted. Wound up having to format and start from scratch. But I was still able to turn it on, just kept conking out at the windows loading screen, then blue screen, then restart.

    desc wrote: »
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    honestly GTA4 is a shitty game anyway

    real men play Saints Row 2

    8-)

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