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Fuck being in the frienuds zone

TommattTommatt Registered User regular
So I'm just gonna type my typos, as I don't feel like correcting them, and there are many of you in the same situation I am. Women love me, all my friends wives love me, in fact, ask any woman who is taken, I'm a 10/10. I'm funny, attractive, and smart. I'm sweet, thoutfull, and sexy. Yet, I always end up in the friends zone.

Ladies, what takes it from datable to just a friend?

Guys, what do you do to keep it sexual, and not just casual/friendshipul(is that a word?)

To be honest, I havn't had a date date in 5 years. With friends, girls I'm not trying anything with, any sitution i think has no future, I'm money. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I do know I always end up in the friends zone. Every body's GF Lovees me, everybodys wife loves me, but I just seem not to be able to get into a situation where a woman gives a shit about me for me.

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  • WashWash Registered User regular
    The friend zone is a myth.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    The friend zone is a myth.

    Not only a myth, but potential grounds for infraction.

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  • InHumanInHuman Registered User
    From what you've describe I'm 100% sure that they probably think you are gay.

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    you're coming off like a massive dick here
  • AldoAldo Registered User regular
    I often find myself in the fried nuts zone too. Often there are pretzels involved too, so I can totally relate.

    What you need to do is meeting girls who are not interested in frying. Maybe go to places that specifically advertise their disdain for frying and pretzels.

    It also helps if you don't act like a frustrated little twat bemoaning his lack of getting any. If there's one thing that makes a dude unlovable it's him being a whiny wanker.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    Did I stumble into H/A?


    Friend zone kinda sucks though, but there's an easy way out of it.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter Registered User regular
    Maybe you should try asking them out

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    If you really haven't had a date in five years, that's just the result of not trying.

    Do the online dating thing, ask women out that you meet in whatever social setting you regularly find yourself in. Also stop telling yourself you're a 10/10.

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  • AroducAroduc Awaiting Email Confirmation
    I'm pretty sure that you're not as awesome as you think you are.

  • KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS
    Under no circumstances do you get any sympathy from me. I'm in a much worse situation generally, 21 years old with a stint at the psychologist required before I can even think about getting any love or sex out of life, but I don't start new threads about it that operate around frat-boy terminology and ideation.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    Your post makes me think you're about a 3/10 who's wives friends consider an object of pity. But that's mostly because you came off as a massive twat.

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    I was told by many women that I was really sweet, but never quite believed it. Yet post high school I suddenly found my groove and have dated 3 women all of whom my high school self would've considered way out of my league.

    This probably isn't the same problem you have though.

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  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    What the fuck is a friend zone?

  • AroducAroduc Awaiting Email Confirmation
    Honk wrote: »
    What the fuck is a friend zone?

    It's like the Negative Zone, only populated by friends instead of antimatter.

  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    What the fuck is a friend zone?

    The friendzone is a myth perpetrated on emotionally vulnerable adolescent males that once you hit a particular duration of relationship with a female without trying to engage with her sexually that she stops viewing you as having a penis at all.

    Dis' wrote: »
    Cancer is when cells stop letting the body mooch off their hard work - clearly a community of like-minded cells should isolate themselves and do the best job each can do, even if the rest of the body collapses!
  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    My best friend of...13? years now is a female so there is in fact a friend zone. The friend zone exists as long as both parties have no desire to get down the others pants.

    They may very well enjoy your personality, and your company. However the truth is they have no desire to get anything more from you than they are currently getting now. Someone once said that women know pretty quick after meeting you if they are willing to sleep with you. That can change over time in some cases but I would not count on it. Of course your friends think your a 10, or a great guy. They are your friends, they like you otherwise they would not be (unless you are useful), second stop letting women put you in the friend zone. If a woman says lets just be friends it is perfectly acceptable to say no, the fact that I am interested in you pretty much precludes us being friends and I do not need the hassle. Don't be someones emergency dick in a jar that they keep on display.

    Ever heard the job interview metaphor? Imagine if you submitted your resume to a company, they pulled you in for an interview and tell you that you are absolutely 100% what they are looking for however they are not going to hire you. What they are going to do is keep your resume on file and compare all future applicants to it. Moreover even if they do not measure up we are still going to hire them. Then we are going to call you at 3am to tell you just how badly they are not measuring up.

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    Aha... I see. Now that sounds pretty strange. People are different, some will lose interest, some won't. I wouldn't think it's fair to say such a thing exists.

  • AroducAroduc Awaiting Email Confirmation
    Haven't taken any psych courses, have we, Detharin?

    There's a reason that the ladder theory is grounds for immediate punishment in H&A.

  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    Taken quite a few psych classes actually, however if a girl is not interested pretending to be her friend in the hopes she might one day be interested is just going to lead our dear drunk OP down the road of heartbreak. If you meet a girl, you enjoy her company, all she wants is friendship, and you are willing to be her friend then all is well and good. If you are only accepting the offer of friendship as an attempt to get closer to her in the hopes she will one day decide to date you then you are not being her friend, just a manipulative dick.

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    Are we seriously pretending the friend zone doesn't exist? What universe are you people living in?

    Granted, I'm not all about this ladder theory thing, but the friend zone is like goddamn evolution. We can debate how it works and the exact mechanisms of it, but the evidence that it's happening is overwhelming.

    edit: Accepting the offer of friendship? Who the fuck even thinks like that?

    You meet someone, enjoy being around them, at some point you develop feelings for them and it turns out they don't feel the same way. You continue to be friends because you don't just stop being friends with people over something like that.

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    ugh let's not have this argument

    The friend zone is a useful little conceit for explaining the concept that being a girl's "friend" with the ultimate goal of getting in her pants is fruitless. Trying to make it into anything more than that is dumb.

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  • KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS
    Guys have friend zones around them too (I guess obliviousness counts as part of that zone), but for various reasons girls (and gay men) usually don't nail they sorry selves to a cross over it.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    Dyscord wrote: »
    ugh let's not have this argument

    The friend zone is a useful little conceit for explaining the concept that being a girl's "friend" with the ultimate goal of getting in her pants is fruitless. Trying to make it into anything more than that is dumb.

    Do people actually do this? I think we're talking about two different things here. I'm talking about when you're into a girl who you're already friends with, and she's not into you (often because, in her words, she doesn't want to risk the friendship, or something similar). I don't think I've ever met a single guy who has sought or continues to seek friendship with a woman solely because someday he might get to nail her.

    edit: Because the girls know damn well they can get around that friend zone with a minimal amount of effort.

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    ah of course they do, lots of women have attached themselves to gay men for no good reason at all

    granted they're not the brightest women, but hey neither is OP a shining example of his gender

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    my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
    cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
    and they don't sweat you when you came around
  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY EVERY DAYRegistered User regular
    Hey OP maybe you should go out and meet chicks and let them know that you are interested in them. You know, just a thought.
    Are we seriously pretending the friend zone doesn't exist? What universe are you people living in?

    A unique microcosm of swivel-chair pedants.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    Dyscord wrote: »
    ah of course they do, lots of women have attached themselves to gay men for no good reason at all

    granted they're not the brightest women, but hey neither is OP a shining example of his gender

    We can certainly agree on that. Maybe he's really young? But I'm guessing not with the mention of his friends having wives.

  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    I cannot really see how anyone can make the argument the friend zone does not exist. My best friend is female, we have both seen each other through quite a bit of hell. Heck for the longest time people kept insisting I was just trying to get down her pants, but after about the 8th year that finally died off. However whenever she is single, or gets a new boyfriend it usually ends up being a cluster fuck and I end up having to give the speech.

    Ohh but it does remind me of a funny story. I used to work on her back, neck, and various other body parts quite a bit because of various medical issues. Now mind you I have never touched anything that would be covered by a bikini. However one time her first husband decided to make a snide comment to the effect of even if I had a girlfriend I wouldn't know what to do with her. My response was "X I've touched more parts of your wife's body than you have."

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Guys have friend zones around them too (I guess obliviousness counts as part of that zone), but for various reasons girls usually don't nail they sorry selves to a cross over it.

    Oooh ooh - this doesn't get said enough.

    Dis' wrote: »
    Cancer is when cells stop letting the body mooch off their hard work - clearly a community of like-minded cells should isolate themselves and do the best job each can do, even if the rest of the body collapses!
  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    So if the OP's friends have wives, and he himself sounds like he was sixteen (and a bit of a twat at that)... I don't think you need to be a rocket surgeon to figure out what the problem might be.

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  • AldoAldo Registered User regular
    Detharin wrote: »
    I cannot really see how anyone can make the argument the friend zone does not exist. My best friend is female, we have both seen each other through quite a bit of hell. Heck for the longest time people kept insisting I was just trying to get down her pants, but after about the 8th year that finally died off. However whenever she is single, or gets a new boyfriend it usually ends up being a cluster fuck and I end up having to give the speech.

    Ohh but it does remind me of a funny story. I used to work on her back, neck, and various other body parts quite a bit because of various medical issues. Now mind you I have never touched anything that would be covered by a bikini. However one time her first husband decided to make a snide comment to the effect of even if I had a girlfriend I wouldn't know what to do with her. My response was "X I've touched more parts of your wife's body than you have."

    I think what you are trying to say is that you are good friends with someone. "Friend zone" is a term thought up by creepy men who believe in ladder theory and implicates that men only talk to women to fuck with them. They consider 'friend zone' a place you should never want to be in.

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  • AroducAroduc Awaiting Email Confirmation
    You guys do know that the 'friend zone' was invented by a sitcom and not seriously acknowledged by any literature, right?

    Not to mention that this whole "being her friend by lying to her to try to take advantage of her" is self-contradictory.

    It's an excuse that spineless people use to give themselves an excuse to not even try. That's the sum and total of it.

  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    Aldo wrote: »
    I think what you are trying to say is that you are good friends with someone. "Friend zone" is a term thought up by creepy men who believe in ladder theory and implicates that men only talk to women to fuck with them. They consider 'friend zone' a place you should never want to be in.

    Wow, WTF. Seriously? Sounds like they pretty much consider women nothing but whores.

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • AldoAldo Registered User regular
    Detharin wrote: »
    Aldo wrote: »
    I think what you are trying to say is that you are good friends with someone. "Friend zone" is a term thought up by creepy men who believe in ladder theory and implicates that men only talk to women to fuck with them. They consider 'friend zone' a place you should never want to be in.

    Wow, WTF. Seriously? Sounds like they pretty much consider women nothing but whores.

    Well, I think Aroduc is more correct about the origins, but this is the reason mentioning Ladder Theory and related concepts results in you getting punched in the face if you bring it up in Help/Advice.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    ladder theory is sort of retarded that way, yes

    hope? change? busproject.org
    my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
    cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
    and they don't sweat you when you came around
  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY EVERY DAYRegistered User regular
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Guys have friend zones around them too (I guess obliviousness counts as part of that zone), but for various reasons girls usually don't nail they sorry selves to a cross over it.

    Oooh ooh - this doesn't get said enough.

    the male friend zone is for chicks we just don't want to fuck

    do you really think women are out on the prowl for tail like men are

    i mean honestly, the idea that men and women's brains work exactly the same because oh my god sexism is just asinine

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  • Morbid FloristMorbid Florist Registered User
    Fallout wrote: »
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Guys have friend zones around them too (I guess obliviousness counts as part of that zone), but for various reasons girls usually don't nail they sorry selves to a cross over it.

    Oooh ooh - this doesn't get said enough.

    the male friend zone is for chicks we just don't want to fuck

    do you really think women are out on the prowl for tail like men are

    i mean honestly, the idea that men and women's brains work exactly the same because oh my god sexism is just asinine

    A thousand times this

  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    The friend zone is a myth.

    Not only a myth, but potential grounds for infraction.

    What? Really?

    Are you fucking kidding me

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    Fallout wrote: »
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Guys have friend zones around them too (I guess obliviousness counts as part of that zone), but for various reasons girls usually don't nail they sorry selves to a cross over it.

    Oooh ooh - this doesn't get said enough.

    the male friend zone is for chicks we just don't want to fuck

    do you really think women are out on the prowl for tail like men are

    i mean honestly, the idea that men and women's brains work exactly the same because oh my god sexism is just asinine

    A thousand times this

    you two haven't spent all that much time at bars have you

    hope? change? busproject.org
    my unofficial autobio will be accompanied with tips on how to smile
    cause I've found that when they don't see you frown, they never know that you're a threat
    and they don't sweat you when you came around
  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY EVERY DAYRegistered User regular
    plenty

    most of the time it's men coming on to women, and that is at a place that women go to to get laid

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  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    Dyscord wrote: »
    Fallout wrote: »
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Guys have friend zones around them too (I guess obliviousness counts as part of that zone), but for various reasons girls usually don't nail they sorry selves to a cross over it.

    Oooh ooh - this doesn't get said enough.

    the male friend zone is for chicks we just don't want to fuck

    do you really think women are out on the prowl for tail like men are

    i mean honestly, the idea that men and women's brains work exactly the same because oh my god sexism is just asinine

    A thousand times this

    you two haven't spent all that much time at bars have you

    Or other areas where women exists.

  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    What the fuck is a friend zone?

    The friendzone is a myth perpetrated on emotionally vulnerable adolescent males that once you hit a particular duration of relationship with a female without trying to engage with her sexually that she stops viewing you as having a penis at all.

    The friend zone is not that, it's the idea that given a period of time your friendship has strengthed to the point that you couldn't forsee yourself dating them in any way (it'd be too weird, it'd risk the friendship, etc etc)

    And I've placed females firmly into friend zone territory, it's not a male-exclusive zone, however it's bitched about mostly by males

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