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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Actually I don't think there's an agreed definition of judicial activism. Didn't Ginsberg suggest that it could be defined as rule in opposition to the will of the majority?

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh god.

    On Hardball, they had Sharpton and Buchanan discussing Rush getting the heave-ho.

    This is one of the train-wreckiest things I've EVER seen.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yar wrote: »
    Actually I don't think there's an agreed definition of judicial activism. Didn't Ginsberg suggest that it could be defined as rule in opposition to the will of the majority?

    Judicial activism is actions by a judge you don't agree with.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh god.

    On Hardball, they had Sharpton and Buchanan discussing Rush getting the heave-ho.

    This is one of the train-wreckiest things I've EVER seen.

    ...

    So that's a loud mouthed moron, an attention whore, and a racist?

    This sounds like a bad joke. Or a political debate in this country.

    I suppose better they were discussing a racist loud mouthed moronic attention whore.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh god.

    On Hardball, they had Sharpton and Buchanan discussing Rush getting the heave-ho.

    This is one of the train-wreckiest things I've EVER seen.

    ...

    So that's a loud mouthed moron, an attention whore, and a racist?

    This sounds like a bad joke. Or a political debate in this country.

    I suppose better they were discussing a racist loud mouthed moronic attention whore.

    Well, it's pretty sad when Sharpton is the voice of reason.

    See for yourself.

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  • ElkiElki GOBS OF PUKE!!! YES!!!!!!!Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited October 2009
    Rush is a horrible person. The usual defenses of Rush are that A) other horrible people exist and B) some other thing.

    As far as radio personality goes, I put him as a solid first Worst-Thing-Of-Generation as far as popularity+horribleness go. Savage is second because of the stigma deduction.

  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited October 2009
    ED! wrote: »
    It's that they don't have the sphere of influence that Beck and Limbaugh do.

    True. However I can count on one hand (for each man) the comments that each has made that deserve a whiffle bat to the head. It seems the rallying call for the Anti-Beck set is his ". . .prove you're not a terrorist" screed. That is definitely one of the ". . .I should not improvise dialogue" moments in broadcast history, and Beck should've at the least clarified and apologized for how the comment came out; but using that as the foundation for the Beck hate. . .a bit overboard.

    Let me get this straight. Beck accuses a sitting US congressman of being a terrorist, with absolutely zero reason to do so, and when people despise the man because of it, we're the ones going overboard?

    I'm sorry, but that's a fucking idiotic thing to say.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    ED! wrote: »
    It's that they don't have the sphere of influence that Beck and Limbaugh do.

    True. However I can count on one hand (for each man) the comments that each has made that deserve a whiffle bat to the head. It seems the rallying call for the Anti-Beck set is his ". . .prove you're not a terrorist" screed. That is definitely one of the ". . .I should not improvise dialogue" moments in broadcast history, and Beck should've at the least clarified and apologized for how the comment came out; but using that as the foundation for the Beck hate. . .a bit overboard.

    Let me get this straight. Beck accuses a sitting US congressman of being a terrorist, with absolutely zero reason to do so, and when people despise the man because of it, we're the ones going overboard?

    I'm sorry, but that's a fucking idiotic thing to say.

    Furthermore, the only reason he accused Ellison of being a terrorist was his faith.

    There is no fucking way that sort of comment can be innocently explained away. It is the commentary of a bigot.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Harrisonburg, VARegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh, ED!'s going to have fun defending this. "Guys, it isn't racist at all, but it sure is interesting that you think it's racist!"

  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Anyone who finds Rush or Beck's behavior excusable, especially after seeing the effect it has on other people, have not watched the show or do not have an accurate gauge of their behavior.

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  • ElkiElki GOBS OF PUKE!!! YES!!!!!!!Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited October 2009
    What's with you people wildly accusing Rush of racism for no good reason? You're making Rush sad.
    Limbaugh wrote:
    It seems that the reaction of the sports media, which is really dominated by racial bigots of all races, seems to be, "Well, even if you didn't say it we know you think it."
    Why are all those bigots calling him a racist? It's really not fair that you could just say that about people.

  • Sangheili91Sangheili91 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I'm probably the only person who saw the title immediately thought of the band. :?

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    ED! wrote: »
    Now, if you take EVERY quote Limbaugh says, that alludes to the race of the president, regardless of context and insist on painting it as racially charged language meant to incite - it does a disservice to real racism and small minded bigotry.

    What would we define small minded bigotry as other than having a long history of making antagonistic, heavily racially charged commentary?

  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    I just read through excerpts that Ebum linked on page one. Why is Rush Limbaugh not in prison for hate speech?

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Honk wrote: »
    I just read through excerpts that Ebum linked on page one. Why is Rush Limbaugh not in prison for hate speech?

    Because that's kind of a clear violation of the first amendment?

    He has the right to say whatever damn fool thing he wants, but when non-governmental authorities punish him for his bullshit he gets to shut the fuck up and quit whining.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I heard about Rush losing out with the NFL but what is this 'other thing' you're talking about?

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  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Spewing racism on radio would be considered hate speech in lots of countries and therefore be unprotected by the right to freedom of expression. I thought you had such a thing as well.

  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA
    edited October 2009
    Honk wrote: »
    Spewing racism on radio would be considered hate speech in lots of countries and therefore be unprotected by the right to freedom of expression. I thought you had such a thing as well.

    Nope. There are limits, but sadly, unless he specifically calls for somebody to be killed, he can spout as much racist shit over the airwaves as he wants.

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  • Brian888Brian888 Registered User
    edited October 2009
    I'm probably the only person who saw the title immediately thought of the band. :?



    No you're not.

  • HonkHonk Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Brian888 wrote: »
    I'm probably the only person who saw the title immediately thought of the band. :?



    No you're not.

    I was thinking about Stargate at the time I read the title and thought why is there a split thread on Dr Rush?
    Honk wrote: »
    Spewing racism on radio would be considered hate speech in lots of countries and therefore be unprotected by the right to freedom of expression. I thought you had such a thing as well.

    Nope. There are limits, but sadly, unless he specifically calls for somebody to be killed, he can spout as much racist shit over the airwaves as he wants.

    Alright. Man I hope he steps over that line, god knows he wants to.

  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I got all the way to where he quoted Pastor Martin Niemöller before I had to close the thread from rage.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Honk wrote: »
    Spewing racism on radio would be considered hate speech in lots of countries and therefore be unprotected by the right to freedom of expression. I thought you had such a thing as well.
    emnmnme wrote: »
    I heard about Rush losing out with the NFL but what is this 'other thing' you're talking about?

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Even calling for someone to be killed is a fairly hard line to cross, unless you start getting very specific

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  • No-QuarterNo-Quarter Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Honk wrote: »
    Alright. Man I hope he steps over that line, god knows he wants to.

    No, you don't.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh god...it's going to get worse.
    Paul Pelosi, husband of Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif), is now the owner of a professional football team. The famously publicity-shy spouse of the current Speaker of the House bought the California Redwoods, a San Francisco-based franchise in the upstart United Football League.

    Do I even need to tell you how this is going to get spun?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax Bondage Discipline Spider-Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh god...it's going to get worse.
    Paul Pelosi, husband of Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif), is now the owner of a professional football team. The famously publicity-shy spouse of the current Speaker of the House bought the California Redwoods, a San Francisco-based franchise in the upstart United Football League.

    Do I even need to tell you how this is going to get spun?

    Let's be honest, what's the likelyhood he did this partly to piss Rush off?

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  • AstraphobiaAstraphobia Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well, Glenn Beck may not be a racist, but he is learning from some of the best ones out there today on how to start.

    You: GOD NEVERMIND, I'LL JUST CALL THE FUCKING WONDER TWINS MAYBE THEY CAN UNITE TO FORM A FUCKING CLUE FOR YOU
  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Oh god...it's going to get worse.
    Paul Pelosi, husband of Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif), is now the owner of a professional football team. The famously publicity-shy spouse of the current Speaker of the House bought the California Redwoods, a San Francisco-based franchise in the upstart United Football League.

    Do I even need to tell you how this is going to get spun?

    Let's be honest, what's the likelyhood he did this partly to piss Rush off?

    Well, it's not the NFL, so it's not quite a blow to offend. Not as strong as it could've been. Frankly, I'm glad it wasn't an NFL team, because then it'd be kind of obvious that they're trying to egg Rush on. I'd rather the asshat have little to talk about.

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  • Captain UltraCaptain Ultra Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Henroid wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Oh god...it's going to get worse.
    Paul Pelosi, husband of Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif), is now the owner of a professional football team. The famously publicity-shy spouse of the current Speaker of the House bought the California Redwoods, a San Francisco-based franchise in the upstart United Football League.

    Do I even need to tell you how this is going to get spun?

    Let's be honest, what's the likelyhood he did this partly to piss Rush off?

    Well, it's not the NFL, so it's not quite a blow to offend. Not as strong as it could've been. Frankly, I'm glad it wasn't an NFL team, because then it'd be kind of obvious that they're trying to egg Rush on. I'd rather the asshat have little to talk about.

    Yeah, honestly, there I feel bad for Mr. and Mrs. Pelosi. After all, now they have to own a UFL team. D:

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  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    What the hell is this "UFL" anyway? That news above is the first I've heard of it. <_<

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Henroid wrote: »
    What the hell is this "UFL" anyway? That news above is the first I've heard of it. <_<

    It's a craptastic league with 4 teams and NFL cast offs both playing and coaching in it. Elki is the only person on the planet watching it.

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  • ElkiElki GOBS OF PUKE!!! YES!!!!!!!Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited October 2009
    Henroid wrote: »
    What the hell is this "UFL" anyway? That news above is the first I've heard of it. <_<

    It's a craptastic league with 4 teams and NFL cast offs both playing and coaching in it. Elki is the only person on the planet watching it.

    It's really great. If you watch it you'll spend the whole game trying to figure what teams the announcers are talking about because they all wear different shades of light blue, sometimes accented with green.

  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    ED! wrote: »
    Those quotes are full of racially charged material, but that doesn't make them in and of themselves racist. Stupid sure. Racist not so much.

    Really? Are you shitting me? That's like responding to a guy burning a cross on the front lawn of a black family with, "Sure, the action is racially charged, but not necessarily racist."

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SkyGheNe wrote: »
    Anyone who finds Rush or Beck's behavior excusable, especially after seeing the effect it has on other people, have not watched the show or do not have an accurate gauge of their behavior.

    Well by your own logic it's because of their effect on people that they are defend so adamantly.

  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    ED! wrote: »
    Those quotes are full of racially charged material, but that doesn't make them in and of themselves racist. Stupid sure. Racist not so much.

    Really? Are you shitting me? That's like responding to a guy burning a cross on the front lawn of a black family with, "Sure, the action is racially charged, but not necessarily racist."

    Maybe he just wanted to heat up his friendly neighbors' house the only way he knew how

    So see the white man's the real victim here

  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Rent wrote: »
    ED! wrote: »
    Those quotes are full of racially charged material, but that doesn't make them in and of themselves racist. Stupid sure. Racist not so much.

    Really? Are you shitting me? That's like responding to a guy burning a cross on the front lawn of a black family with, "Sure, the action is racially charged, but not necessarily racist."

    Maybe he just wanted to heat up his friendly neighbors' house the only way he knew how

    So see the white man's the real victim here

    I've been so blind!

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