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The Office thread: Shove it up your butt!
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I can't imagine Nellie becoming a permanent cast member. I just find her annoying in a way none of the other cast members are. I find even Gabe to be more tolerable.
I didn't like that Community episode. For exactly that reason.
Buy my 40k shit.
They need time to write the finale / figure out what they're doing for next season / figure out if there will be a next season.
Show is hosed right now.
Does anyone know if the last few episodes of the prior season and all of this season were written or produced by different people than the earlier episodes? It doesn't even seem like the same show anymore. Hell, there were many episodes this season that didn't even seem to have B plots at all, vs old episodes which even had C plots many times. The show has such a strong ensemble cast, but they just don't use it like they used to.
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing." -- Andrew Jackson
You're supposed to dislike her
There is a massive difference between not liking a character, and wanting to stop watching a show if she continues being on it.
Things to think about:
1) The 4 main cast members (except Rainn Wilson) are still negotiating for beyond this season. No Robert California is one thing. But no Jim/Pam, Andy, and/or Ryan? That's something else.
2) Mindy Kaling has a pilot at Fox. If it gets picked up, goodbye Kelly. More importantly, she's gone from the writing staff.
3) Paul Lieberstein (Toby) is the current showrunner. He's planning on leaving that position to do the same for "The Farm"...yes, that's what they want to call the Dwight spin-off. So yeah, he's been in charge this year, but he was also in charge last year, I believe, and most people liked that season. I wonder what was different last year...
As it stands, with The Farm being positioned for mid-season, I wonder if we'll wind up with some hollow shell of The Office for half a season, lurching towards a finish.
Also, NBC's thinking with the Dwight spin-off is pretty transparent, I think. Unfortunately, I really don't think they can do the Cheers-Frasier thing successfully again. Especially with Dwight.
And in regards to Nellie, it seems like there's two completely separate reactions to her. Most people here seem to hate her, and hated her last spring, too. But there must have been some positive response to warrant bringing her back.
I am curious how they will end it. There's not a lot of major character events left. And if they don't have any of the major players left by the end, it's going out with a whimper. Look forward to season 14 when Kevin is the branch manager.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing." -- Andrew Jackson
I'd like to think Dunder-Mifflin accidently gave the documentary crew a gigantic budget on accident, and the crew has just kept filming all these years to justify continuing to get paid, and it's just managed to slip through the cracks year after year.
I think Frasier was the lucky duck ... because everything else just seems to end up like Joey.
Feel free to show me other good spin-offs though.
It could work. The episode where they had the party / reception thing at the farm was pretty great, and Dwight-centric.
Though, rather than Mose being the other lead, I'd want Jim / Pam to quit the office and work for Dwight.
An entire series based on Jim / Dwight would be...pretty much everything I watch The Office for now.
It's also the kind of storyline that you can only show at the end of the show's run.
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I wonder how many newer fans don't even know that there is a documentary being made.
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing." -- Andrew Jackson
Dude I've been watching since the beginning and I barely remember.
Buy my 40k shit.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-office-ends-as-documentary-crew-gets-all-the-f,6988/
Modern Family doesn't even bother trying to justify its documentary format.
Audiences just accept it without asking who's filming or why.
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And that's ignoring back door pilot spinoffs (ie characters introduced specifically to make a spinoff).
Love, American Style=Happy days=Laverne & Shirley
Blansky's Beauties
Mork & Mindy
Out of the Blue,
Joanie Loves Chachi
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing." -- Andrew Jackson
For a show to work, your main character has to be fairly normal. Think Jim and originally Ryan.
Dwight is a fucking weirdo, so he's either going to have to be nerfed (like Joey was in Joey) or they're going to have to come up with all sorts of Cooky Side Characters! to add into the mix to make Dwight seem normal.
I would like The Farm to be good. I love The Office and want it to be successful, but Dwight makes zero sense to base a show on.
of what? Die Hard?
Perfect Strangers, if I recall correctly.
Perfect Strangers
(I was really looking forward to adding Family Matters to Invisible's list for some sort of geek value, but go figure he just left it for last to get my hopes up.)
Oh, I completely agree with you. I think Dwight's too weird of a character to carry a show, especially after 8 seasons of it. It's like if they spun off Urkel.
Just spinoffs can be really successful. They don't all end up like Joey or Checking In, but I think it's likely to happen with "The Farm."
Ideally Jim and Pam would move to whatever suburb Monica and Chandler moved to. I'd watch that show. Marshall and Lily can move there too in a couple years, it'd be great.
Eh, Family Matters pretty much became the Urkel show after a few seasons anyway.
Unfortunately, I can't see Kaling's actual pilot working out. A comedy about OB/GYNs obviously isn't going to attract a male audience, and I feel like the novelty of the setting will wear off pretty quickly and then start to serve as a burdensome limitation on the stories. I'm sure that actual OB/GYNs think their lives are hilarious, but in reality I doubt that there's enough variety to what they do (especially once you excise stuff too explicit for tv) to sustain multiple seasons of episodes.
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See, that's why Frasier worked, he wasn't too developed but he was well liked. A Woody show would've been awful, which is basically what The Farm is going to be.