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The Office thread: Shove it up your butt!

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    Havent the last few episodes shown that Jim isn't a capable manager alone?

    It's hard to tell how much of that is because of him and how much of it is because Michael has warped the environment of the Office in such a way that he's the only person who can manage it somewhat effectively.

    In teh other office they were playing COD all day, it seems to be the standard, Jim isn't good at managing people as shown by the way he tried to do bonuses.

    Uh, in the real world bonuses are performance based.

    Every bonus I got as a General Manager was different than the bonuses other General Managers received, and were based on my performance that period or quarter. Jim was basically trying to do a performance review on the staff, and assign bonuses based on the results of that review. That's standard practice in most any sane business setting.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Puts his name on his helicoptor.. ..so everyone knows it's his.Registered User regular
    The fact that Jim didn't stand firm in his deciscion and immediately retracted at the fact that his subordinates weren't happy with it isn't exactly a great showing of management capability.

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  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    True, though I would chalk that up more at inexperience than ineptitude. Any first time manager has some trouble the first time they run into team member dissent. Usually though they have someone over them to coach them through it and show them how to balance the team's morale and managerial authority.

    Jim had Michael, who folds faster than a lawn chair in a hurricane.

  • YarYar Registered User regular
    In case anyone is wondering how the bonus situation with Jim is actually handled: you tell everyone that there aren't going to be any bonuses and then you decide if anyone actually needs to get a bonus and tell them individually.

  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    Yar wrote: »
    In case anyone is wondering how the bonus situation with Jim is actually handled: you tell everyone that there aren't going to be any bonuses and then you decide if anyone actually needs to get a bonus and tell them individually.

    That is quite possibly the worst thing to do ever. Especially in that office.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    Drakeon wrote: »
    So, I know the show isn't going anywhere soon (isn't it one of NBC's highest rated?), but what are they going to do about
    Spoiler:

    If it's anything like last season, they'll make it look like everything's been tossed up in the air, but by the season finally everything falls back to the status quo as Jim and Pam find out with a smug smile their baby is an angel. Naturally.

    The writers have essentially begun writing the series from the beginning again. Andy and Erin are the new Jim and Pam, while the bankruptcy plot mirrors the branch closure/merger plots.

    I often wonder if the show's popularity has grown to the point where NBC is afraid to allow the writers to do anything fresh with the series. :?

    No, it's one of the tropes of the show. Status quo is GOD!

  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Drakeon wrote: »
    So, I know the show isn't going anywhere soon (isn't it one of NBC's highest rated?), but what are they going to do about
    Spoiler:

    If it's anything like last season, they'll make it look like everything's been tossed up in the air, but by the season finally everything falls back to the status quo as Jim and Pam find out with a smug smile their baby is an angel. Naturally.

    The writers have essentially begun writing the series from the beginning again. Andy and Erin are the new Jim and Pam, while the bankruptcy plot mirrors the branch closure/merger plots.

    I often wonder if the show's popularity has grown to the point where NBC is afraid to allow the writers to do anything fresh with the series. :?

    No, it's one of the tropes of the show. Status quo is GOD!

    Yes, like the status quo of Jim being promoted to co-manager, Pam being a sales person now, and having a new receptionist.

  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Drakeon wrote: »
    So, I know the show isn't going anywhere soon (isn't it one of NBC's highest rated?), but what are they going to do about
    Spoiler:

    If it's anything like last season, they'll make it look like everything's been tossed up in the air, but by the season finally everything falls back to the status quo as Jim and Pam find out with a smug smile their baby is an angel. Naturally.

    The writers have essentially begun writing the series from the beginning again. Andy and Erin are the new Jim and Pam, while the bankruptcy plot mirrors the branch closure/merger plots.

    I often wonder if the show's popularity has grown to the point where NBC is afraid to allow the writers to do anything fresh with the series. :?

    No, it's one of the tropes of the show. Status quo is GOD!

    Yes, like the status quo of Jim being promoted to co-manager, Pam being a sales person now, and having a new receptionist.

    We'll see how this season ends.

  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    I really loved Michael snapping at Jim and telling him they needed the game to take their mind off it, because they totally did. It was a great way to get their minds off it. As stupid as Michael is sometimes it's momentslike this that make me really like him as a character. He's brilliant, he knows what he's doing during moments like this and does it really well.

    Jim's learning a lot from Michael right now and I can't help but feel like these two, together, would be moved up considerably high. Michael's been both consistent and resilient through closings and Jim has great ideas. They're a good tandem.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    I really loved Michael snapping at Jim and telling him they needed the game to take their mind off it, because they totally did. It was a great way to get their minds off it. As stupid as Michael is sometimes it's momentslike this that make me really like him as a character. He's brilliant, he knows what he's doing during moments like this and does it really well.

    Jim's learning a lot from Michael right now and I can't help but feel like these two, together, would be moved up considerably high. Michael's been both consistent and resilient through closings and Jim has great ideas. They're a good tandem.

    I think Michael always knows what hes doing he just acts irrationally, selfishly, without thinking about the consequences and childishly. I doubt they made him a manager just because he coudl sell stuff.

    Then again my manager used to work at McDonalds, as long as you're a manager SOMEWHERE, they take you on.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • RaynagaRaynaga Registered User regular
    Michael is supposed to be the ideal example of the rule that people in business end up promoted one level above their actual level of competency. He was an amazing salesman, and based on that success he was given a leadership role. Which he had no experience, training, or personal aptitude for.

    What successes he has had as a boss have either been accidental, or the result of some base understanding he's picked up over years of sucking at it, i.e. the party to take people's minds off potential closing.

  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    I have to say, regarding the opening;
    It's one of the few times in the show's history that I just absolutely couldn't suspend my disbelief. It was just fucking stupid. Even an office as crazy as this one wouldn't allow that kind of thing, and the fact that it has apparently been going on for years, but this is the first we're hearing of it, completely kills it.

    The rest of the episode has been okay so far.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Registered User regular
    It was stupid because it was the forced NBC/GE think green BS they do with all their shows.

    And Jim needs to fucking fire Ryan, I would totally support it.

    And go Oscar, save the day.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    Okay, how Jim dealt with Ryan was pretty good.
    It's a bit disappointing that Oscar declined to say anything in front of the execs, but certainly understandable.

  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    How was Michael not fired? Ever since Dwight pulled his fake fire drill stunt, this show is really pushing limits of .... what's the word? It's not believability. It's pushing something, though.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    How was Michael not fired? Ever since Dwight pulled his fake fire drill stunt, this show is really pushing limits of .... what's the word? It's not believability. It's pushing something, though.

    Suspension of disbelief?

    In this case, the crowd was already panicked and angry. Firing the man they just announced as their most successful branch manager probably wouldn't look good.

  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    He called a bigwig a moron. And then he ran off with the limo.

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  • GoslingGosling Team Monica Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    He called a bigwig a moron. And then he ran off with the limo.

    Did he do it in front of the crowd?

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  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel J.2C When's KoFRegistered User regular
    Ok so dvr cut off at the end.... what happens after Dwight makes the "line" comment at the end?

    If Blanka receives any nerfs in 2013, and I mean any, I will eat a box of cocks and change characters forever.
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  • TexiKenTexiKen Registered User regular
    Ok so dvr cut off at the end.... what happens after Dwight makes the "line" comment at the end?

    Instead of talking about Dunder Mifflin Dwight goes into a speech about making the actual line to ask questions better, as in taking numbers, or having an express line for questions under 10 words. And the CEO says "ok?" and Dwight has this look of accomplishment on his face.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    Gosling wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    He called a bigwig a moron. And then he ran off with the limo.

    Did he do it in front of the crowd?

    What is it the Japanese do? They don't fire a veteran employee - they perpetually reassign him to a crap position, right?

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  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel J.2C When's KoFRegistered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Ok so dvr cut off at the end.... what happens after Dwight makes the "line" comment at the end?

    Instead of talking about Dunder Mifflin Dwight goes into a speech about making the actual line to ask questions better, as in taking numbers, or having an express line for questions under 10 words. And the CEO says "ok?" and Dwight has this look of accomplishment on his face.

    Friggin' Dwight.

    If Blanka receives any nerfs in 2013, and I mean any, I will eat a box of cocks and change characters forever.
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  • Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User
    Dwight's question at the end doesn't quite mesh with the time line does it? I got the impression that Michael and Co. cheesed-it directly from the hospitality suite when he learned that he would be taking the bus back.

    It was a good episode, though I had hoped Oscar would have stood up and said something.

    "Well, that was a waste of a text!"

  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    Andrew_Jay wrote: »
    Dwight's question at the end doesn't quite mesh with the time line does it? I got the impression that Michael and Co. cheesed-it directly from the hospitality suite when he learned that he would be taking the bus back.

    They've done that many times before. The blurb is often something that happened earlier in the episode's timeline, but would have disrupted the flow, or just works better as a blurb.

  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    I'm really curious where the show's going from here. I like that they're continuing with this, but I feel bad for Jim. Ryan's being a shitass and he does need to can him. But I don't see Michael being ok with this because he fucking loves Ryan.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    Sick of Ryan, youre getting paid asshole and you do the job when youre getting paid.

    Also backs up my impression of Pam and Jims vanilla sex life. Shes never heard him yell, only exclaim and the example she came up with was completely non sex-related.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • mrt144mrt144 King of the Numbernames Registered User regular
    Sick of Ryan, youre getting paid asshole and you do the job when youre getting paid.

    Also backs up my impression of Pam and Jims vanilla sex life. Shes never heard him yell, only exclaim and the example she came up with was completely non sex-related.

    o_O Does this mean you'll write your fanfic accordingly?

  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    mrt144 wrote: »
    Sick of Ryan, youre getting paid asshole and you do the job when youre getting paid.

    Also backs up my impression of Pam and Jims vanilla sex life. Shes never heard him yell, only exclaim and the example she came up with was completely non sex-related.

    o_O Does this mean you'll write your fanfic accordingly?

    Most boring fanfic ever.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    I imagine that by th eend of the season someone will buy out Dunder Mifflin or something of the type, the management had no idea what to do and if it just magically turns itself around then as someone said above, its gonna stretch suspension of disbelief like Dwight coming in and trashing the office.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    I love how nobody has any respect at all for Jim

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    I love how nobody has any respect at all for Jim

    He's the guy that hid Dwight's stapler in a Jello mold. He's not going to be a boss until he cracks a few heads.

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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt Registered User regular
    I found this episode really unfulfilling

    Everyone just sucked this episode

    Except Jim

    But Jim was like a side story :(

    sometimes you just gotta do a thing
  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    poor recyclops

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • Stupid Mr Whoopsie NameStupid Mr Whoopsie Name Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I found this episode really unfulfilling

    Everyone just sucked this episode

    Except Jim

    But Jim was like a side story :(

    Especially Jim.

    Oscar and Andy's interaction were far more entertaining.

    Or the line "How's he suppose to have grandkids?"

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • variantvariant Registered User
    Damn I really thought Oscar was going to give it to those big-wigs and they would take all of this in turn it in to the 45 pts and then they could all ride off in the limo...

    Now what...?

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    variant wrote: »
    Damn I really thought Oscar was going to give it to those big-wigs and they would take all of this in turn it in to the 45 pts and then they could all ride off in the limo...

    Now what...?

    I didn't only think that, I was really disapointed when it didn't happen.

    Oscar is my favorite character now, too, since he's essentially the only normal guy left in the cast.

    Hey, I'm going to try and pick a couple seasons up during various Holiday sales. What seasons are the best?

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive Damn these electric sex pants! Registered User regular
    I like that Oscar clammed up, as it seemed a lot more realistic - he can easily spot where the company is going wrong and is very vocal about it, but has no real idea how to set it right.

    robothero wrote: »
    damn rhesus, you're like a cyclical procedure of poor decisions
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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS
    Also he probably realised he shouldnt be telling his bosses what to do.

    ...it's in the shape of a giant c**k.
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    I thought Oscar's display of bravado and subsequent inability to live up to it was one of those displays of true to life awkwardness that the show is known for. Who hasn't experienced something like that?

  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    It definitely kept Oscar as one of the top characters as far as realism goes. How many people go on about how people in power fuck things up but wouldn't have the sand to tell it to their faces (or come up with solutions) if given the chance? I'd guess a lot of people.

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