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Exposing a scam

sligmastasligmasta Registered User regular
So i have a coworker who just got sold into http://hankkingi.mygenewize.com/

the idea is that you send in a dna swab, they map it, then send you personalized vitamin supplements based on what you will geneticaly be deficient in.

on top of that it has an mlm buisness model. this basicaly means that its a pyramid scheme. You get signed up, you pay for the service, but if you get four other people to sign up and pay for the service, your vitamins are free. if you sign up more than that you start making money.

Obviously the marketing it self made me think it was a scam. After that i did a little research online only to find anecdotal experiences on the effects of the product and no scientific evidence to its legitimacy.

so my question is, how would i go about finding not a lack of information for its effectivness, but evidence of its ineffectivness?

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Registered User regular
    how much is he paying for these vitamins? If it isn't too outrageous I would just forget about it.

    You haven't given me a reason to steer clear of you!
  • LeCausticLeCaustic Registered User
    mapping your dna? or your genome? Genome mapping costs upwards of 50k and that's how they determine genetic deficits. I've never heard of swabs giving you pertinent info that would even be remotely reliable for cheap. Tests cost shitloads of cash because of the lab/personal/equipment. Even getting a blood sample for cholesterol is expensive. I'd be wary.

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User
    It's actually within reason to sequence an entire organism for less than 5k but this is still ridiculous and a scam

    And gene mapping? Yeah, all gene map to the same locations on chromosomes from person to person, and often from organism to organism.

    Sequencing on the other hand is the differentiation between the individual base pairs.


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  • sligmastasligmasta Registered User regular
    they are paying $80 a month and a $300 startup fee for the initial genetic testing (these are people who have more money than they know what to do with)

    from what trillian says is seems like they are sequenced instead of mapped, my bad on the vocabulary

  • FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    You should just make peace with the fact that your coworker is retarded and stop associating with them. It's like when some guy I worked with for a bit told me he loved Jeff Dunham.

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    Well, they say their parent company is GeneLink, and "Genelink scam" gives 32,900 hits on Google. This website http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/genomics.html, starting at the heading NuGenix, has a little bit of information on them, but it seems like they're good at not giving away too much information.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    This isn't really any different than the "vitamin packs" that GNC sells or any of the other supplements people pay way too much for every day. People buy unnecessary health-related products every day.

    Hell, millions of people swear by oscillococcinum (which is duck liver extract) as a cure for flu and colds, and with the dilution method used it's quite possible for individual doses to contain 0% of the "active" ingredient. That's a much bigger scam than whatever they're selling your friend, but if he thinks its working he's free to waste his money.

  • sligmastasligmasta Registered User regular
    Cervetus wrote: »
    Well, they say their parent company is GeneLink, and "Genelink scam" gives 32,900 hits on Google. This website http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/genomics.html, starting at the heading NuGenix, has a little bit of information on them, but it seems like they're good at not giving away too much information.

    this is exactly what i was looking for, thanks!

  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User
    FightTest wrote: »
    You should just make peace with the fact that your coworker is retarded and stop associating with them. It's like when some guy I worked with for a bit told me he loved Jeff Dunham.

    This is generally the best way to handle things.

    Oh, you bolted a Tornado Fuel Saver, fuel-line magnets, pre-injection air heating, and a bunch of other useless shit onto your car, and you think I'll (a) care or (b) follow suit because I'm a gearhead? Yeah, you go ahead. No, I'll just sit back and watch.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    FightTest wrote: »
    You should just make peace with the fact that your coworker is retarded and stop associating with them. It's like when some guy I worked with for a bit told me he loved Jeff Dunham.

    This is generally the best way to handle things.

    Oh, you bolted a Tornado Fuel Saver, fuel-line magnets, pre-injection air heating, and a bunch of other useless shit onto your car, and you think I'll (a) care or (b) follow suit because I'm a gearhead? Yeah, you go ahead. No, I'll just sit back and watch.

    But I'm getting 250 miles/gallon!

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