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[Australian Politics] Death of the Liberal Party
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Tony Abbott likes to wear his catholicism on his sleeve.
His sorry arse shouldn't even have made it as far as it has, but seeing him manage this leaves me somewhat disquieted.
While that would be nice, it seems unlikely.
If anything should things go pear shaped for the Tories, then it's the mdoerates who're most likely to suffer, and thus ugly holdover is likely to be the ones left standing. They're the ones supported by the Liberal base, and they're the ones who're likely to retain their seats. Afterall, who're the base going to vote for? Certainly not the Labor party, never the Labor party or ...well, anyone else except Family First. Which brings its own problems with it in any case - FF is the socially conservative alternative, but not the WOO MORE MONEY FOR THE UPPER CLASSES alternative (well, not in the same fashion anyway).
Also, my money is on there NOT being a DD in the immediate future, there's some tricky maths to do regarding determining the best time to do so - namely relating to how it affects senate terms - there's going to be a time which is best for Labor, namely when it shortens the terms of the most Liberal senators.
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Tony Abbott.
Jesus.
It seems like something which is more likely to put the pressure on consumers before industries, as the industries will initially respond by passing on costs while slowly finding ways to compete on price due to their ability to reduce their need for carbon credits. Such is my naive economic understanding, anyway.
I DON'T think the market is the right tool for the job in this case, I think direct action is better - government investment in green technologies, movement towards nuclear power at least in the interim, massive public transport infrastructure improvements, more initiatives regarding greening building practices. For industry, I don't know what the carbon equivalent of forcing them to place their water intake downstream from their waste water disposal is, but that.
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Tony-fuckmothering-ABBOTT is leading the Libs now? Phaaaark.
That's what I get for not logging onto news.com.au for a while. Christ. Looks like I have to call home and see what the rest of my family has to say. D=
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Well, except for Minchin, they all lost a lot of influence after 2007. Shit, I dunno even know what Tony Abbott was doing for that first year and a half. If they run as Howard era lite in 2010, and get trounced, then I can see their party room influence drying up pretty badly. But honestly, can anyone explain Julie Bishop? Anyone?
Also I love watching Tony Abbott try to contextualise "Climate change is crap" so that he doesn't sound like a skeptic.
Pitty Peter Costello retired?
Greens probably. Labor is pushing the internet censorship deal. The libs are never going to support R video games.
Not the Liberal Party, not the Family First party.
Possibly the Libertarian Party Of Australia or whatever they call them selves.
But if you want a vote that counts maybe the Greens? They are pretty socially radical.
Where abouts are you living? Because there are a handful of individuals bringing the crazy on these issues, and the most important thing is to get them (I'm looking at you Michael Atkinson) out of the way.
Other than that, voting is a lot less important than being vocal about the fact that free speech is an important value to you. Signing petitions, writing letters, all that boring stuff. It's rarely an issue people campaign on because the general impression is that we're all pretty apathetic when it comes to censorship (which is true- we're a laaaazy country). And that's how people like Atkinson and Conroy can frame the debate as one between hard-working, principle families and a bunch of violent, kiddy fiddling basement dwellers.
Atkinson is the guy that is benning vidjagames right? He has his reasons, but by his very same logic, all frms of entertainment that are availble at a home need to be controlled by the government, there shouldnt be porn or books like american psycho because a kid could get his hands on them.
Also all forms of entertainment are controlled by the government. Books and movies get banned too.
The Pirate Party. We've just started to have one.
Of course, for the forseeable future they're only ever going to be viable in the senate.
And honestly, they're probably not viable for the moment for the senate either.
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Australia's censorship policy is incredibly regressive. While voting in the Greens may help on the federal level, there still remains the issue of any change to the R18+ ban requiring the unanimous support of all 7 state governors.
That said, I dislike the Greens for a few reasons. One of the biggest is their pants-on-head retarded views on nuclear power - including opposition to even mining fucking uranium. We have an incredibly tectonically stable desert the size of the Sahara, 23% of the world's known uranium deposits (the largest in the world), yet we have no fucking nuclear power plants, won't build any dumps, and will hardly even mine the fucking shit.
I really do love Australia as a country, but fuckdamn the attitude to nuclear power here is enraging.
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It doesn't exactly instill confidence.
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It's not like he had "Click here for information about tooth decay, click here for my pricing on whitening and fillings, click here to see me raping a baby, and click here for contact details."
Just some dentist dude.
A bunch of those sites are just regular porn sites. They're on there for no reason.
Plus there's the Fielding and co. lining up to say that clearly we should block anything which would be refused classification in Australia. So...all pornography essentially. Thankfully the male vote will block that.
Hm okay, maybe it could be problematic then. If it gets out of hand presumably there would be a significant voter backlash, which would either lead to a change of government or them pre-emptively changing it. Hopefully it would never make it through the senate anyway, though Tony Abbott might be more inclined to support it than his predecessors were.
Since redtube.com is on the list, I can guarentee that all porn will be blocked, and not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
RC is not illegal, but if the Australian Christian Lobby, of which Rudd and Conroy both have given multiple private meetings to, get thier way, anything not christian and wholesome will be blocked.
Im an aethist, but I dont go forcing my belief on others, but apparently I need to be saved, even if I dont want to be.
Plus, given it's a secret blacklist it's difficult to create any sort of significant voter backlash. If something stupid like this has to happen (which it shouldn't) it needs to be transparent and administered by someone who doesn't confuse computers with typewriters.
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The youth vote also cares about the internet and technology, they've already started along those lines. Political policies, especially with regard to the internet and technology are invariably stupid, and not pragmatically or rationally constructed.
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Also there's the whole issue with it allegedly slowing net speeds by up to 20%. As if aussie internet wasn't shit enough already. But the thing I find really insidious is the whole making it an opt out thing. Sure, you can opt out of this filter. They just have your information on a list now. It feels so fucking dirty.
Of course the whole thing is a gigantic waste of time for it's intended purpose. How is a list of websites that they create manually going to stop or even slow down child pornography. And more importantly, if they have the information for a website that has child pornography or something actually deserving of a national filter on it, wouldn't it be easy as fuck to get it shut down? You think about this thing rationally for one minute and it no longer makes any sense whatsoever.
Plus they already distributed free net filter software to concerned parents through a government website. Why not bring back that scheme and expand/advertise it? It seems like a much simpler, cheaper and better solution. Rather than wasting my taxpayer dollars on a pointless, expensive scheme that accomplishes nothing except adversely effecting the already substandard australian internet.
God I hate Stephen Conroy.
20 seems... optimistic.
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No-one, pretty much. Well, maybe the greens.
Its less mining itself and more of a hate-on for how incredibly crap mining companies are at cleaning up after themselves. Not many people ever get to see exactly how crap they are because mines are safely in the middle of nowhere for the most part, but they really do suck tremendously.
The list itself isn't even the main problem, its the fact that its illegal to ask what's on the list/if you're on the list and functionally impossible to get removed from it if you're added in error. It leaves the way open for any sites that some random-ass bureaucrat takes a misliking to to get added, with no need for justification or even notification. Massive, massive FOI fail.
At least it's retardedly easy to get around!
Going by their official site, no, not really.
http://greensmps.org.au/uraniummining
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