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Health Care - Don't worry, I'm sure this cough will clear up soon

Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
edited December 2009 in Social Entropy++
Senate defeats amendment where obama would have been stopped from killing babbys. Obama allegedly responds by eating his children's dog, uses honey-mustard dipping sauce (citation needed)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HealthCare/senators-defeat-abortion-amendment-health-care-bill/story?id=9279079
The Story wrote:
By a vote of 54-45, Senators dismissed the abortion amendment offered by Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.

In casting his "No" vote, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., acknowledged that while he may be against abortion, it "doesn't mean I'm opposed to finding common ground for the greater good."

So who knows, we might have some sort of reform in the near future. This is at least a step towards it, even if it only is a barricade that's been passed by. The important thing is that this amendment was a bipartisan effort (though it was 8 republicans and 2 democrats), both sides of the floor were able to find common ground and work together.

So let's talk about how our faith in the process has been restored

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    god fucking damn it

    banning abortion doesn't stop abortion

    at all

    this is scientifically proven many times over

    all it does is kill women who try to get them illegally

    fucking hell

  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    and I'm fucking poor, I can't afford health care, and need some fucking help

    so fucking give me a damned hand-out, you rich cocksuckers

    the employer-based healthcare system is flawed to its core

  • FizFiz Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    If people stopped getting abortions Arby's would run out of meat for their delicious sandwiches

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  • alternatingAberrationalternatingAberration All Are Free Within The BiomassRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I like how people keep thinking the health-care would be free. Sure, the taxes take care of it, but holy shit the price tag on this thing is gonna jump high.

    I mean, why do people avoid going to the doctor now? Because it costs a lot of money. But when it's already being paid for? Hell, gonna get the doctor to look at my every little ache and pain! Foot that bill, 'murrica.

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  • Ol' SparkyOl' Sparky Registered User
    edited December 2009
    people, please stop mentioning arby's. For some reason I have been deeply craving their terrible food but cannot obtain any.

    Please.

  • langfor6langfor6 Registered User
    edited December 2009
    I have never gone from laughing so hard to feeling so disgusted as I did while reading posts number 3 and 4.

  • HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I was craving Arby's a couple months ago so I went and got some. Think I'll go back again in a decade once I forget how it tastes. I'd shots of Arby sauce though any day.


    I think I take my military health care for granted as in I never use it. But when I do its cool just to walk in and say fix me and they do and they hand out drugs and I get to miss work.

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  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    is the american health reform anything but giving gobs of money to the corporations that have been fucking them for 50 years yet.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Krosius wrote: »
    I like how people keep thinking the health-care would be free. Sure, the taxes take care of it, but holy shit the price tag on this thing is gonna jump high.

    I mean, why do people avoid going to the doctor now? Because it costs a lot of money. But when it's already being paid for? Hell, gonna get the doctor to look at my every little ache and pain! Foot that bill, 'murrica.

    that's not really the main cause behind the large expense of public health care

  • HarrierHarrier Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    is the american health reform anything but giving gobs of money to the corporations that have been fucking them for 50 years yet.
    Not in Washington, no

    Pennsylvania might pass single-payer health care soon, though

    I don't wanna kill anybody. I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from.
  • ZoelZoel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    is the american health reform anything but giving gobs of money to the corporations that have been fucking them for 50 years yet.

    woah woah woah

    the medical records and digital imaging companies are new

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  • alternatingAberrationalternatingAberration All Are Free Within The BiomassRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Nuzak wrote: »
    Krosius wrote: »
    I like how people keep thinking the health-care would be free. Sure, the taxes take care of it, but holy shit the price tag on this thing is gonna jump high.

    I mean, why do people avoid going to the doctor now? Because it costs a lot of money. But when it's already being paid for? Hell, gonna get the doctor to look at my every little ache and pain! Foot that bill, 'murrica.

    that's not really the main cause behind the large expense of public health care

    Still, can you imagine the cost of millions of people just going to the doctor's for whatever? The elderly alone would work up a huge bill.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    i really like how quickly this became an arby's thread

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    yeah, nuzak, i was about to say that its more of the completely useless expenses and overpricing in healthcare than people just going to the doc a lot

    i think part of the bill would have gone toward figuring out what we've been wasting our money on all this time, dunno if its still in there but i hope it is

  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Zoel wrote: »
    is the american health reform anything but giving gobs of money to the corporations that have been fucking them for 50 years yet.

    woah woah woah

    the medical records and digital imaging companies are new

    my bad

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  • HarrierHarrier Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Actually we should really just go to a completely socialized medical system like Great Britain has

    I don't wanna kill anybody. I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from.
  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    I prefer the way the Canadian system is organised over the way the NHS is organised, Harrier!!!!!!

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  • Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Krosius wrote: »
    Nuzak wrote: »
    Krosius wrote: »
    I like how people keep thinking the health-care would be free. Sure, the taxes take care of it, but holy shit the price tag on this thing is gonna jump high.

    I mean, why do people avoid going to the doctor now? Because it costs a lot of money. But when it's already being paid for? Hell, gonna get the doctor to look at my every little ache and pain! Foot that bill, 'murrica.

    that's not really the main cause behind the large expense of public health care

    Still, can you imagine the cost of millions of people just going to the doctor's for whatever? The elderly alone would work up a huge bill.

    I'm still under the hope that any reform that occurs in this country isn't an exact copy of the negative parts of other countries health care systems. I hope that rather they take the good parts of the other systems, and can identify and solve some of the problems in the other systems.

  • HarrierHarrier Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I prefer the way the Canadian system is organised over the way the NHS is organised, Harrier!!!!!!
    Britain spends less than Canada does on health care and gets similar or better results

    I wrote a goddamn paper on this just last month

    I don't wanna kill anybody. I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from.
  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Harrier wrote: »
    I prefer the way the Canadian system is organised over the way the NHS is organised, Harrier!!!!!!
    Britain spends less than Canada does on health care and gets similar or better results

    I wrote a goddamn paper on this just last month

    Quantify this pls

    also does the NHS cover dental and prescriptions

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User
    edited December 2009
    yeah but who wants to live in britain

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    i just hope they come up with something that doesn't majorly screw me over as both a dubiously insured college student and, in the future, a medical professional

  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    i love the myth that everything canada does is better than what the US does.

    they put mayo on hamburgers. fucking mayo

  • ZoelZoel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Zephyr wrote: »
    yeah but who wants to live in britain

    i do; willing to marry a british woman

    e: (wo)man

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    is the american health reform anything but giving gobs of money to the corporations that have been fucking them for 50 years yet.

    no

    some money is also going to senators and congressmen

  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    canada certainly does health care a million fold better than what the US has now and that actually matters, so

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  • Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Harrier wrote: »
    I prefer the way the Canadian system is organised over the way the NHS is organised, Harrier!!!!!!
    Britain spends less than Canada does on health care and gets similar or better results

    I wrote a goddamn paper on this just last month

    Quantify this pls

    also does the NHS cover dental and prescriptions

    It certainly doesn't cover dental :winky:

    (and I'm pretty sure Canada's system doesn't cover dental either)

  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    No it doesn't cover dental and its a tragedy that dental is considered a luxury because goddamn lots of people die from dental infections everywhere

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User
    edited December 2009
    ive had mayo on burgers before

    its good

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  • Mr. ButtonsMr. Buttons Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Barcardi wrote: »
    i love the myth that everything canada does is better than what the US does.

    they put mayo on hamburgers. fucking mayo

    that's just crazy, everybody knows that mayo is for dipping your french-fries into

  • Blake TBlake T Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    One thing that really annoys me is that there are tax breaks if you are married, have kids, at uni, or are poor.

    There are no tax breaks if you earn decent money.

    I want my well-off white guy tax break.

  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    No it doesn't cover dental and its a tragedy that dental is considered a luxury because goddamn lots of people die from dental infections everywhere

    yes but it covers poutine, right

    win some lose some

  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I guess I'm a racist.

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  • ZoelZoel Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    No it doesn't cover dental and its a tragedy that dental is considered a luxury because goddamn lots of people die from dental infections everywhere

    I feel you. I have a pretty good feeling this is how I'm gonna go.

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  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    No it doesn't cover dental and its a tragedy that dental is considered a luxury because goddamn lots of people die from dental infections everywhere

    yes but it covers poutine, right

    win some lose some

    totally

    it also covers HRT and GRS which fuckin owns, its pretty great people don't have to personally sink 100 grand into this anymore~

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  • HarrierHarrier Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Barcardi wrote: »
    i love the myth that everything canada does is better than what the US does.

    they put mayo on hamburgers. fucking mayo
    Wait, you... don't put mayonnaise on hamburgers?

    I don't wanna kill anybody. I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from.
  • Blake TBlake T Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    No it doesn't cover dental and its a tragedy that dental is considered a luxury because goddamn lots of people die from dental infections everywhere
    Are you sure? I only ask because I know Australia does but the waiting list for that is so ridiculously long that everyone just uses private dentists instead (I am talking 12 month waits for crown replacements and stuff)

    Oh and I have a cracked tooth! Looking forward to seeing how much that will cost me!

  • The Far SideThe Far Side __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2009
    Blaket wrote: »
    No it doesn't cover dental and its a tragedy that dental is considered a luxury because goddamn lots of people die from dental infections everywhere
    Are you sure? I only ask because I know Australia does but the waiting list for that is so ridiculously long that everyone just uses private dentists instead (I am talking 12 month waits for crown replacements and stuff)

    Oh and I have a cracked tooth! Looking forward to seeing how much that will cost me!

    I wish I could find the statistic, it came from when Doctors were doing a gigantic free clinic in the American south, and saw infections that they've only seen in indigenous tribes in the Amazon

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