X 3, in which with drive long, hard ships into tight, quivering gates

Synthetic Orange

L|ama wrote: »

so I flew alllll the way from omicron lyrae to the place way out west where you can buy jumpdrives to get one then went back and did some more missions, then I bought 5 traders and sent them over there to get some themselves and turned SETA on for a couple of minutes while marines trained and oops they all died. Might try buying them closer to the jumpdrive place next time.

Yeah, especially since between Omicron Lyrae and the Home of Light are many Xenon and pirate sectors.

There's a shipyard just north of the Home of Light.

OmegaTofuNinja

I am so bad at this game but it's so fun to play

Weaver

kill all Paranid

Indie Winter

Weaver wrote: »

kill all Paranid

their ships are too pretty to destroy

I usually dominate them economically, or send a few M2s to show them who's boss

Ledneh

The Black Hunter wrote: »

There is a control in the options

run while background or something

WELP

OmegaTofuNinja

I can't even beat pirate ships often enough to cap them

Weaver

Darkstar One, all beefed up yet hauling 620 tons of bread to a wealthy planet that has to import its food.

Spoiler:

The Black Hunter

wait I have never seen or heard of this ship?

Is it from Reunion or something?

Snowbeat

it's a different game

L|ama

OmegaTofuNinja wrote: »

I can't even beat pirate ships often enough to cap them

get a decent M3 and things get easier

also if you do the station defence missions (red target thing by the station, talk to them) a lot of the things that spawn are M4s and M5s which are scouts and very easy to kill, especially since they will ignore you to attack the station.

OmegaTofuNinja

L|ama wrote: »

OmegaTofuNinja wrote: »

I can't even beat pirate ships often enough to cap them

get a decent M3 and things get easier

also if you do the station defence missions (red target thing by the station, talk to them) a lot of the things that spawn are M4s and M5s which are scouts and very easy to kill, especially since they will ignore you to attack the station.

I'm trying to save up for a new ship but I can't seem to get enough money. I've got a freighter set up doing sector trading but other than that I've got like no income.

PiptheFair

OmegaTofuNinja wrote: »

L|ama wrote: »

OmegaTofuNinja wrote: »

I can't even beat pirate ships often enough to cap them

get a decent M3 and things get easier

also if you do the station defence missions (red target thing by the station, talk to them) a lot of the things that spawn are M4s and M5s which are scouts and very easy to kill, especially since they will ignore you to attack the station.

I'm trying to save up for a new ship but I can't seem to get enough money. I've got a freighter set up doing sector trading but other than that I've got like no income.

steal things

OmegaTofuNinja

PiptheFair wrote: »

OmegaTofuNinja wrote: »

L|ama wrote: »

OmegaTofuNinja wrote: »

I can't even beat pirate ships often enough to cap them

get a decent M3 and things get easier

also if you do the station defence missions (red target thing by the station, talk to them) a lot of the things that spawn are M4s and M5s which are scouts and very easy to kill, especially since they will ignore you to attack the station.

I'm trying to save up for a new ship but I can't seem to get enough money. I've got a freighter set up doing sector trading but other than that I've got like no income.

steal things

woah you can do that?

Ledneh

1) shoot some bastard until he's out of shields
2) start plinking away at his hull
3) if you're lucky he'll eventually bail out (shoot the pilot for bonus points!)
4) eject and enter the nearly-deader to claim it (or something like that in a context menu somewhere)
5) get back in your original ship, do what you want with the derelict (usually "autopilot to the nearest shipyard so I can sell you")

OmegaTofuNinja

I totally almost had a superfreighter but then customs started being little bitches. It was an amazing moment though, me fighting off like five dudes trying to buy the freighter time to gate out before I followed it, then a big ship showed up and whooooooooops

Weaver

Back when I used to play X3 I sent sent three heavy argon capitals, each with a fighter escort, along with me flying the argon cruiser with a heavy fighter/bomber wing, into the Paranid capital system.

Killed every last Paranid structure and ship.

After that things just got boring.

L|ama

there's some weird code behind abandoning ships that is discussed over in the forum there a few times

there's a 1/8 chance that they will never abandon it, and checks at various increments of time and hull integrity of whether they will do it or not. My tactic is to take out their shields and a bit of hull in one burst, wait maybe 5-10 seconds and if they say nothing I finish them off.

Does the surrender option on comms ever work?

Faffel

L|ama wrote: »

there's some weird code behind abandoning ships that is discussed over in the forum there a few times

there's a 1/8 chance that they will never abandon it, and checks at various increments of time and hull integrity of whether they will do it or not. My tactic is to take out their shields and a bit of hull in one burst, wait maybe 5-10 seconds and if they say nothing I finish them off.

Does the surrender option on comms ever work?

I hate it when they say they're going to surrender, then turn around and empty a missile load into your cockpit. Fuck.

L|ama

I hate missiles in general. They do next to no damage when I use them but fuck me up when they hit me. Point is there's a bit of a delay between when they say they're giving up and when they get out, so you've gotta keep strafing for a bit. Speaking of which, taking down M6es as an M3 is surprisingly fun and easy if you keep a reasonable distance and strafe lots.

Faffel

L|ama wrote: »

I hate missiles in general. They do next to no damage when I use them but fuck me up when they hit me. Point is there's a bit of a delay between when they say they're giving up and when they get out, so you've gotta keep strafing for a bit. Speaking of which, taking down M6es as an M3 is surprisingly fun and easy if you keep a reasonable distance and strafe lots.

Yeah, my Nova Vanguard (Yog-Sothoth 8-)) has taken down quite a few M6's, but I really need to figure out a way to get my game exciting again. I'm at 4mil and cruising around the galaxy trying to get people to bail from ships is annoying and gets boring. Guess I should get some traders going or something.

Those Argon Centaurs are a joke for my Vanguard - I took one down without even losing 50% of my shield, haha.

L|ama

If they get separated from the M3-5s that they come with in station defences I can hide inside the station and basically not get hit at all (using a Nova Raider myself)

L|ama

This mission is fucking stupid. I have to capture a freighter, take it over beside a TL that has fighters patrolling it which don't attack you at first, then get within 500 metres to plant something then escape somehow.

Weaver

llama welcome to X3 is pretty but fucking stupid

L|ama

I'm going to see if I can kill them all and then do the rest of the mission, because I spent fucking half an hour repairing the heap of shit transporter.

L|ama

I come bearing pictures.

Unlucky pirates (station defence mission in a pirate sector, these guys came through just after the pirate M6s):

Spoiler:

Ooh pretty:

Spoiler:

Got about 45 million credits just from traders and selling ships, gonna spend a bit of that on getting some more traders going and then wait until I can afford a destroyer and then I'm gonna wreck some shit.

The Black Hunter

I just captured a Ray, I named him Mastodon

a Ray is the Boron M2 by the way

I need something to remove enemy fighters though, I have 4 high energy plasma cannons top and 4 bottom, but they don't hit shit

Synthetic Orange

So you put slow weapons on, get poor performance, and your response is to... look for a mod that makes your enemies non hostile?

The Black Hunter

Synthetic Orange wrote: »

So you put slow weapons on, get poor performance, and your response is to... look for a mod that makes your enemies non hostile?

I meant remove enemy fighters

a more effective anti fighter weapon

I am considering the energy bolt chaingun

Synthetic Orange

Mass drivers.

The Black Hunter

Synthetic Orange wrote: »

Mass drivers.

I thought they didn't affect shields

I'd do a particle beam emitter, or a Plasma burst generator and hell I even tried chainguns, but damn the ray is picky

Looks like either flak or phased repeater gun

The Black Hunter

The economy in my game is nigh completely crippled

it's a pain in the but

Synthetic Orange

The Black Hunter wrote: »

Synthetic Orange wrote: »

Mass drivers.

I thought they didn't affect shields

I'd do a particle beam emitter, or a Plasma burst generator and hell I even tried chainguns, but damn the ray is picky

Looks like either flak or phased repeater gun

Yeaaah, they ignore shields and do damage directly to the hull, which means they shred fighters immediately.

Did you take it to mean that shields stopped them completely?

The Black Hunter

Synthetic Orange wrote: »

The Black Hunter wrote: »

Synthetic Orange wrote: »

Mass drivers.

I thought they didn't affect shields

I'd do a particle beam emitter, or a Plasma burst generator and hell I even tried chainguns, but damn the ray is picky

Looks like either flak or phased repeater gun

Yeaaah, they ignore shields and do damage directly to the hull, which means they shred fighters immediately.

Did you take it to mean that shields stopped them completely?

yes I did

Do enemy fighters bail even if their shields are up? I guess no. Anyway, that'd be awesome but it doesn't look like my new trouble child can take them

I'm gearing up a new set of marines to capture another big daddy, I'm think a Python

DJ Cam Cam

will this game work with a Microsoft Sidewinder 2 joystick? Its a old stick but I got it work with Freespace 2 on windows 7 64 bit. I know the stick works on the OS, just don't know if the game supports joysticks.

Scribemite

I just picked up the X3 Gold Edition on a whim. It has Terran Conflict and Reunion (2 separate DVDs). Which game came first? I figure Terran Conflict, but the Reunion disk came with the PDF manual (big damn block of text that it is).

Is there any advantage of playing either Terran Conflict or Reunion first?

Synthetic Orange

Play TC. It is better in every way.

Buttcleft

dear god this thread was revived.

The Black Hunter

PACs are not very effective as mass antifighter

looks like I'll be scrounging for flak

The Black Hunter

It turns out phased shockwave generator is the most powerful goddamn thing imaginable

it's like the plasma burst generator but with a much larger effect area and 3 of them fired at once will shred through 1gj of sheilds in a couple of seconds (one shot)

Synthetic Orange

Yeah, try flying in a friendly sector with those. Great times when they try to destroy one pirate and wipe out a whole mass of friendly ships and stations.