All those numbers seem really arbitrary. Why would 47 sit ups be an indicator of anything?
But to be honest it was probably six or seven years ago since I've timed myself running a mile. I have no idea if I could make it.
What numbers would be there that WOULDN'T be arbitrary?
yeah you make a good point. I guess I was just surprised with that prime number
some bean counters somewhere decided that would be a good number to assess a persons fitness level. the military loves to do that sort of thing (i.e., apply abritrary numbers to things as they see fit and not explain themselves), which is annoying enough, but really aggitating when it comes to things like my pay.
I was doing squats on Monday, with nothing terribly heavy -- 30 in weights + a 45 (?) lb. bar would've made it 75 lbs. I was lifting. Did about 6 sets of 5, going as deep into the squat as I felt I could, which was probably deeper than parallel.
I walked away from the rack with a sharp pain in my left leg, right in my glute, every time I took weight off of it. I chalked it up to soreness and finished up, though I didn't do anymore leg stuff. The day after, I had to walk with a slight limp in the same leg, but nothing out of the ordinary. Week went on, the soreness left.
I get on the treadmill for a warmup jog for 5 min @ 8.5mph tonight, though, and I feel like I'm really struggling. Normally it really isn't an issue to keep up the pace, but it was a little tougher it seemed. I get off the treadmill, move over to the bench and realize the same pain from Monday is back, in the same spot.
It isn't exactly the glute, but a little further forward. I can't rotate my leg without it hurting, and walking is a little painful because of the sharp pain every time I take weight off the left leg.
EDIT: It probably isn't groin-related at all. Still hurts like a mother, though.
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did my military presses, squats, and bicep curls today, as per tube's workout for faggots mk1 and that's my first week of properly-structured lifting in the bag. I already feel much huger.
I've been taking protein powder and creatine after every workout but someone told me that creatine is overkill and I could be hurting my heart, so I'm laying off of that for now. What's the lowdown on creatine? Last I heard, wook was saying it was good shit.
Oh and I think my squats were pretty good even though I'm by myself and just starting out. I practiced form at home a bit and I think I got pretty close to what Rippetoe teaches in this video:
you need to know what creatine does and does not do
creatine does not
cause you to gain 10 pounds of muscle in 2 weeks
make you stronger
cure cancer
cause cancer
creatine does
change the osmotic balance in your muscles, causing them to carry more water. this creates the visual effect of a larger muscle, which will last only so long as you take the creatine
boost the amount of creatine in your body by around 20% or so
increase your strength endurance, allowing you to get that extra rep
creatine may
increase hypertrophic signals by distending the muscle via water retention
creatine acts by phosphorylating adenosine diphosphate to create adenosine triphosphate, which is the primary molecule involved in intracellular energy exchange. Without ATP nothing happens. The most dramatic example of this is rigor mortis. ATP is required for the myosin heads to unbind actin, allowing muscle contraction. In the brief period of time between the end of ATP production and the beginning of protein degradation, the muscles become fixed in place.
ATP is normally created through the metabolism of sugars via aerobic or anaerobic pathways. However, during periods of exercise, the demand for ATP may outstrip the supply. In situations where ATP is consumed faster than it's synthesized, the creatine system can supply additional ATP for a brief period of time (a matter of seconds). This may be the difference between 8 and 10 reps on any given set.
The short short answer is that creatine is one of the most researched supplements around, and the science says it works. It's also relatively cheap as far as supplements go. However, it won't be of any use unless you're already pushing yourself to failure (or damn close) regularly. If you're doing 4x10 with a weight with which you could probably get 4x15, creatine ain't gonna do you much good.
I was doing squats on Monday, with nothing terribly heavy -- 30 in weights + a 45 (?) lb. bar would've made it 75 lbs. I was lifting. Did about 6 sets of 5, going as deep into the squat as I felt I could, which was probably deeper than parallel.
I walked away from the rack with a sharp pain in my left leg, right in my glute, every time I took weight off of it. I chalked it up to soreness and finished up, though I didn't do anymore leg stuff. The day after, I had to walk with a slight limp in the same leg, but nothing out of the ordinary. Week went on, the soreness left.
I get on the treadmill for a warmup jog for 5 min @ 8.5mph tonight, though, and I feel like I'm really struggling. Normally it really isn't an issue to keep up the pace, but it was a little tougher it seemed. I get off the treadmill, move over to the bench and realize the same pain from Monday is back, in the same spot.
It isn't exactly the glute, but a little further forward. I can't rotate my leg without it hurting, and walking is a little painful because of the sharp pain every time I take weight off the left leg.
EDIT: It probably isn't groin-related at all. Still hurts like a mother, though.
forward outside? maybe one of the smaller glute heads.
probably not your groin, if only because in my experience a groin injury requires no interpretation whatsoever to realize it's a groin injury.
I was doing squats on Monday, with nothing terribly heavy -- 30 in weights + a 45 (?) lb. bar would've made it 75 lbs. I was lifting. Did about 6 sets of 5, going as deep into the squat as I felt I could, which was probably deeper than parallel.
I walked away from the rack with a sharp pain in my left leg, right in my glute, every time I took weight off of it. I chalked it up to soreness and finished up, though I didn't do anymore leg stuff. The day after, I had to walk with a slight limp in the same leg, but nothing out of the ordinary. Week went on, the soreness left.
I get on the treadmill for a warmup jog for 5 min @ 8.5mph tonight, though, and I feel like I'm really struggling. Normally it really isn't an issue to keep up the pace, but it was a little tougher it seemed. I get off the treadmill, move over to the bench and realize the same pain from Monday is back, in the same spot.
It isn't exactly the glute, but a little further forward. I can't rotate my leg without it hurting, and walking is a little painful because of the sharp pain every time I take weight off the left leg.
EDIT: It probably isn't groin-related at all. Still hurts like a mother, though.
forward outside? maybe one of the smaller glute heads.
probably not your groin, if only because in my experience a groin injury requires no interpretation whatsoever to realize it's a groin injury.
Can you work on releasing it with a foam roller? Or is it too sore to even try it?
Huh I didn't know creatine directly phosphorylated ADP. I thought it supported or supplemented the electron transport chain something something my grasp of the krebs cycle is a little weak.
I imagine Wook in a white lab coat with black frame glasses as he writes that post then instantly after hitting "submit" we pull back to see the coat arms are cut away and he goes into a furious set of cleans.
All I knew about creatine is that you could only take so much daily. Although the body creates creatine constantly, it doesn't create enough to fill "the bucket" if you will. Supplementing creatine aims at filling that bucket and it's something like 3 to 4 grams supplemented daily that gives you a nice 90-100% of maximum creatine in your body.
BUT you can only fill the bucket so much daily, so at the start you might want to ramp up the protein and then later tune it down a little bit.
did my military presses, squats, and bicep curls today, as per tube's workout for faggots mk1 and that's my first week of properly-structured lifting in the bag. I already feel much huger.
I've been taking protein powder and creatine after every workout but someone told me that creatine is overkill and I could be hurting my heart, so I'm laying off of that for now. What's the lowdown on creatine? Last I heard, wook was saying it was good shit.
Oh and I think my squats were pretty good even though I'm by myself and just starting out. I practiced form at home a bit and I think I got pretty close to what Rippetoe teaches in this video:
As Wook said, creatine helps with some stuff, but it won't make as big a difference as other more important stuff will, like protein and fish oil. If you are worried about your squat form, you could try finding somebody else in your gym who squats correctly and ask if they'll take a look at your form and see if you are doing anything obviously wrong. If you can video yourself, post that shit up in here.
And remember, the "loading" phase that some people instruct for creatine is a load of horse shit. There is no need to load for a few weeks, then go to a normal schedule. Also, it really doesn't matter when you take your creatine, just as long as the cells are saturated at the time of working out. So just taking it on the days you workout is pointless. If you're taking creatine, take 5g every single day. That way, your cells are good and filled with it.
And remember, the "loading" phase that some people instruct for creatine is a load of horse shit. There is no need to load for a few weeks, then go to a normal schedule. Also, it really doesn't matter when you take your creatine, just as long as the cells are saturated at the time of working out. So just taking it on the days you workout is pointless. If you're taking creatine, take 5g every single day. That way, your cells are good and filled with it.
that's important too. there's some evidence that suggests that loading is even counterproductive; the super-high concentrations convince your body to start flushing it.
Flipping between football and World's Strongest Man, my BigMan quota for the day is decidedly being met.
I already found out who won WSM this year... All I will say is that I am very happy that this particular person won.
Any of you kids go to the arnold classic in columbus? Me and my friends trek up there every year. Def worth the 10 bucks to get in. You get a bunch of free supplements, and get to stare at fake boobs.
I talked to Derek Poundstone last year before he did some events. Real cool guy. Mark Henry, Travis Ortymeyer, Phil Pfister, and Brian Shaw were just standing around bullshitting the whole time.
So, a super-awesome friend of mine gave me a squat rack. This is cool. THe thing's pretty sturdy. I don't know that I'd want to put 200kg on it, but then, I'm a long way from squatting 200kg.
So while it's awesome that I got a free rack, I now need to buy a bar... And plates... And probably a bench would be handy as well.
For my purposes, the Standard Duty Olympic Barbell on this page looks like it would do the job. Maxim appears to be a commercial supplier with an address in Adelaide, and from the discussion in that discussion thread it looks like they'll sell to individuals. A post from a while ago put that bar at $270.
I think I'll probably look at getting some rubber coated 20kg and 10kg plates, and then just metal 5s and 2.5s. Is there any reason not to put smaller metal plates on next to bigger rubber-coated plates? Because all the gyms I've been in have either one or the other, but I'm assuming that's just for the sake of buying a 'set'. If it's cheaper just to get my big plates in rubber-coated, but my smaller plates plain-old-metal, is there any reason I shouldn't?
I think I'm looking at around $600 for a bar and plates to start me off. A bench can wait. I still have a gym membership for another five months or so.
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Flipping between football and World's Strongest Man, my BigMan quota for the day is decidedly being met.
I already found out who won WSM this year... All I will say is that I am very happy that this particular person won.
Any of you kids go to the arnold classic in columbus? Me and my friends trek up there every year. Def worth the 10 bucks to get in. You get a bunch of free supplements, and get to stare at fake boobs.
I talked to Derek Poundstone last year before he did some events. Real cool guy. Mark Henry, Travis Ortymeyer, Phil Pfister, and Brian Shaw were just standing around bullshitting the whole time.
So that pain I was bitching about? Totally gone today.
I dunno if it'll come back when I go back to the gym tomorrow evening, though. Hopefully not; I actually have health insurance now (yippee!) so getting it checked out if it turns out to be serious isn't a huge deal, but I'd obviously rather not have seriously injured my ass or something.
I just got 2kg of pork chops for $10. That's the REGULAR PRICE. Real, fresh-from-the-butcher chops. Yum!
I should say, that's in Canada.
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KakodaimonosCode fondlerHelping the 1% get richerRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
Christ.
Doing heavy squats, front squats and straight leg DLs all in the same session is not a good idea. Though in some ways it'll be nice to get the DOMS out of the way for every damn muscle group in my legs.
Doing heavy squats, front squats and straight leg DLs all in the same session is not a good idea. Though in some ways it'll be nice to get the DOMS out of the way for every damn muscle group in my legs.
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Funny how long it can take to get through 3 lifts eh
makes a real contrast compared to folks that do something like 10 machine exercises at 3x15
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some bean counters somewhere decided that would be a good number to assess a persons fitness level. the military loves to do that sort of thing (i.e., apply abritrary numbers to things as they see fit and not explain themselves), which is annoying enough, but really aggitating when it comes to things like my pay.
Grats, and yes it does. The bumpers at my gym are in kg (as they should be) so now I am trying to clean and jerk 100kg. 15kg to go.
but i usually jerk then clean
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I love power clean day
I was doing squats on Monday, with nothing terribly heavy -- 30 in weights + a 45 (?) lb. bar would've made it 75 lbs. I was lifting. Did about 6 sets of 5, going as deep into the squat as I felt I could, which was probably deeper than parallel.
I walked away from the rack with a sharp pain in my left leg, right in my glute, every time I took weight off of it. I chalked it up to soreness and finished up, though I didn't do anymore leg stuff. The day after, I had to walk with a slight limp in the same leg, but nothing out of the ordinary. Week went on, the soreness left.
I get on the treadmill for a warmup jog for 5 min @ 8.5mph tonight, though, and I feel like I'm really struggling. Normally it really isn't an issue to keep up the pace, but it was a little tougher it seemed. I get off the treadmill, move over to the bench and realize the same pain from Monday is back, in the same spot.
It isn't exactly the glute, but a little further forward. I can't rotate my leg without it hurting, and walking is a little painful because of the sharp pain every time I take weight off the left leg.
EDIT: It probably isn't groin-related at all. Still hurts like a mother, though.
I've been taking protein powder and creatine after every workout but someone told me that creatine is overkill and I could be hurting my heart, so I'm laying off of that for now. What's the lowdown on creatine? Last I heard, wook was saying it was good shit.
Oh and I think my squats were pretty good even though I'm by myself and just starting out. I practiced form at home a bit and I think I got pretty close to what Rippetoe teaches in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawBY5p29fQ
creatine does not
cause you to gain 10 pounds of muscle in 2 weeks
make you stronger
cure cancer
cause cancer
creatine does
change the osmotic balance in your muscles, causing them to carry more water. this creates the visual effect of a larger muscle, which will last only so long as you take the creatine
boost the amount of creatine in your body by around 20% or so
increase your strength endurance, allowing you to get that extra rep
creatine may
increase hypertrophic signals by distending the muscle via water retention
creatine acts by phosphorylating adenosine diphosphate to create adenosine triphosphate, which is the primary molecule involved in intracellular energy exchange. Without ATP nothing happens. The most dramatic example of this is rigor mortis. ATP is required for the myosin heads to unbind actin, allowing muscle contraction. In the brief period of time between the end of ATP production and the beginning of protein degradation, the muscles become fixed in place.
ATP is normally created through the metabolism of sugars via aerobic or anaerobic pathways. However, during periods of exercise, the demand for ATP may outstrip the supply. In situations where ATP is consumed faster than it's synthesized, the creatine system can supply additional ATP for a brief period of time (a matter of seconds). This may be the difference between 8 and 10 reps on any given set.
The short short answer is that creatine is one of the most researched supplements around, and the science says it works. It's also relatively cheap as far as supplements go. However, it won't be of any use unless you're already pushing yourself to failure (or damn close) regularly. If you're doing 4x10 with a weight with which you could probably get 4x15, creatine ain't gonna do you much good.
forward outside? maybe one of the smaller glute heads.
probably not your groin, if only because in my experience a groin injury requires no interpretation whatsoever to realize it's a groin injury.
I like having Bigman Scientists around.
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Can you work on releasing it with a foam roller? Or is it too sore to even try it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Qw4aAFdbc
I imagine Wook in a white lab coat with black frame glasses as he writes that post then instantly after hitting "submit" we pull back to see the coat arms are cut away and he goes into a furious set of cleans.
pretty sure none of those are real words
BUT you can only fill the bucket so much daily, so at the start you might want to ramp up the protein and then later tune it down a little bit.
As Wook said, creatine helps with some stuff, but it won't make as big a difference as other more important stuff will, like protein and fish oil. If you are worried about your squat form, you could try finding somebody else in your gym who squats correctly and ask if they'll take a look at your form and see if you are doing anything obviously wrong. If you can video yourself, post that shit up in here.
that's important too. there's some evidence that suggests that loading is even counterproductive; the super-high concentrations convince your body to start flushing it.
1 rep goals for this year (at a bodyweight of <90kg, which itself is a goal):
Bench press - 125kg
Squat - 180kg
Deadlift - 220kg
Press - 90kg
Power clean - 105kg
Going to start myself off by picking up another big bag of protein.
I already found out who won WSM this year... All I will say is that I am very happy that this particular person won.
Any of you kids go to the arnold classic in columbus? Me and my friends trek up there every year. Def worth the 10 bucks to get in. You get a bunch of free supplements, and get to stare at fake boobs.
I talked to Derek Poundstone last year before he did some events. Real cool guy. Mark Henry, Travis Ortymeyer, Phil Pfister, and Brian Shaw were just standing around bullshitting the whole time.
So while it's awesome that I got a free rack, I now need to buy a bar... And plates... And probably a bench would be handy as well.
I found this wicked awesome thread talking about getting Crossfit-required equipment in this wide brown land of Aus: http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=40859.
For my purposes, the Standard Duty Olympic Barbell on this page looks like it would do the job. Maxim appears to be a commercial supplier with an address in Adelaide, and from the discussion in that discussion thread it looks like they'll sell to individuals. A post from a while ago put that bar at $270.
I think I'll probably look at getting some rubber coated 20kg and 10kg plates, and then just metal 5s and 2.5s. Is there any reason not to put smaller metal plates on next to bigger rubber-coated plates? Because all the gyms I've been in have either one or the other, but I'm assuming that's just for the sake of buying a 'set'. If it's cheaper just to get my big plates in rubber-coated, but my smaller plates plain-old-metal, is there any reason I shouldn't?
I think I'm looking at around $600 for a bar and plates to start me off. A bench can wait. I still have a gym membership for another five months or so.
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I dunno if it'll come back when I go back to the gym tomorrow evening, though. Hopefully not; I actually have health insurance now (yippee!) so getting it checked out if it turns out to be serious isn't a huge deal, but I'd obviously rather not have seriously injured my ass or something.
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I should say, that's in Canada.
Doing heavy squats, front squats and straight leg DLs all in the same session is not a good idea. Though in some ways it'll be nice to get the DOMS out of the way for every damn muscle group in my legs.
Enlighten us?
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