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You think this letter on my head stands for [Awesome Moments]?! NSF56K

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Registered User regular
    Best fight this year:

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Is that suppose to be Lex Luthor?

    Also, I love little Red Hood.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
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    Two years ago, former Marvel Comics bullpen member Steve Bunche posted a comics try-out page submitted to Marvel in the 1990s by an unknown hopeful. The page, while lacking in polish and technique, nevertheless had very clear storytelling, and, as Bunche notes in his blog post: “While this guy would never have gotten work in a professional comic as a penciller, I have to admire his talent for creating an instant classic of a non sequitor:”

    You are not imagining this. Wolverine stalks through the wilderness, searching for we know not what, and finds the late Freddie Mercury, frontman of the band Queen.

    See the original page HERE.

  • JyrenBJyrenB Registered User regular
    That is amazing.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter I remember touch I need something moreRegistered User regular
    YES YES YES

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  • herojoeherojoe IndianapolisRegistered User regular
    I've seen far worse pencillers than the dude who drew the original.

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  • NODeNODe Registered User
    Munch wrote: »
    as Bunche notes in his blog post: “While this guy would never have gotten work in a professional comic as a penciller, I have to admire his talent for creating an instant classic of a non sequitor:”

    The reason for that presumably being that "our quota of very average pencillers is filled solely by guys who bought us a few beers one time" because I've definitely seen work as bad or worse than the original from Marvel and DC.

  • TurambarTurambar Registered User regular
    Yeah, I was going to say

    It's one thing if they didn't think he was good enough to hire then and there
    But to say he'll never get professional work?

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Anyone have some awesome stuff of Taskmaster? I like what I've seen of him, but I don't know too much about what he's done specifically.

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    Taskmaster is kind of a tough guy to pin down with awesome moments, at least in the sense of one page to define him. He's more the kind who goes better on a whole issue and when you have a knowledge of the marvel universe in terms of heroes and powers. By himself he's kind of a cipher, he needs someone like Deadpool or being a teacher like he was to USAgent or Avengers Academy to really play off of his abilities. Even that moment I posted is more Taskmaster playing the straight man to Deadpool.

    Ha ha, yesss. I love it, I like the idea of a guy who can instantly copy fighting styles. I've seen some of his other stuff earlier in this thread, but it's always nice to see more.

    He and Deadpool seem much more entertaining than most Rogues gallery. They may be immoral, but they're also charming, occasionally do some good work, and don't have a stupid motivation i.e. Poison Ivy or badly written Magneto. They strike me as more punch clock villains which I find rather endearing.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    Yeah, I was going to say

    It's one thing if they didn't think he was good enough to hire then and there
    But to say he'll never get professional work?

    I think the implication was that he'd never get pro work, with that page as a sample. Which I think is fair. I mean, I've seen worse in pro comics, but when you're putting together a portfolio, you're supposed to be leading with your best foot forward, not something that's just good enough.

    And like Coover says, the page does have very clear story-telling, if nothing else.

  • NODeNODe Registered User
    That's deadpool? I thought he was all "horrifying burn victim" under his mask not the "ugly" guy from Beastly.

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    No, that's Agent X aka Alex Hayden, who had a short-lived comic, where he was believed to possibly be an amnesiac Deadpool.

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    That... sounds like a comic book plot to me.

  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    Does Agent X still weigh 800 lbs in the Deadpool comic? That was the best thing they ever did with that character. Fat jokes never get old, especially from Deadpool!

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    It certainly was.

    Agent X was actually a pretty good book, though. Most of it was written by Gail Simone, at a time when she was firing on all cylinders, and two fill-in issues were done by Evan Dorkin, with art by Juan Bobillo.

    The Dorkin issues make no sense within the rest of the series, but they're pretty good, when taken by themselves.

  • AntimatterAntimatter I remember touch I need something moreRegistered User regular
    says that Deadpool is in charge of Agency X until he's cured of the obesity and arthritis
    and then it was "jokingly hinted" in the letters page of deadpool that he'd get a new ongoing

    that just seems too mean spirited to me

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  • RedDeliciousRedDelicious Registered User regular
    Wasn't there some line about how Agent X was like the Earth-2 version of Deadpool?

  • AntimatterAntimatter I remember touch I need something moreRegistered User regular
    Wasn't there some line about how Agent X was like the Earth-2 version of Deadpool?

    yeah

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    I really liked Agent Zero, mostly because he was my boy Maverick, but never got into Agent X. I used to think Gail Simone was hugely overrated, until I read Secret Six.

    That reminds me... we never saw what was going on with Maverick in Jason Aaron's Wolverine after that first arc. I hope that comes back up in Wolverine and the X-Men at some point.

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    Overweight Agent X did get a pretty good moment, when he dressed as a sumo wrestler, and fought symbiote-possessed dinosaurs.

    But really, with Deadpool back, a book starring him would be rather superfluous.

    Though, he is in the Deadpool book of my dreams, acting as a more well-adjusted, successful foil for Wade.

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    So I'm currently burning through Fables on my Kindle Fire and holy shit:
    Spoiler:

    I don't care how downhill the series supposedly goes after volume 11 I'm sticking with this series and most of the spinoff books minus Jack of Fables. Well if I can find some JoFs trades discounted at conventions then maybe I'll pick it up.

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  • RedDeliciousRedDelicious Registered User regular
    It really doesn't go "downhill," it just sort of takes a little while to change directions is all.

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Also I don't really thing Willingham throws to much of his political views in the stories. Yes there was the whole thing with issue 50 but, at the risk of starting a conversation that's not at all appropriate for this thread, I agreed with his point of view there anyway.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    What's the problem with Fables? The idea seems cool, I was thinking of getting into it.

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla We were the best, Richard No matter what they sayRegistered User regular
    There's no problem with it, it is a really great series

    however after it completed the initial megastoryline that it presented over its first 75-100ish issues, it took a while to find its footing

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    What's the problem with Fables? The idea seems cool, I was thinking of getting into it.

    Be prepared for a big investment then with 16 volumes of the main series out so far with 17 coming out in July, about 4 other spin off volumes with another hardcover coming out later this year, and the Jack of Fables spin off which lasted for 50 issues but I heard it ended terribly so I'm not bothering with it.

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    What's the problem with Fables? The idea seems cool, I was thinking of getting into it.

    Be prepared for a big investment then with 16 volumes of the main series out so far with 17 coming out in July, about 4 other spin off volumes with another hardcover coming out later this year, and the Jack of Fables spin off which lasted for 50 issues but I heard it ended terribly so I'm not bothering with it.

    The Cinderella spinoff was apparently pretty good.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter I remember touch I need something moreRegistered User regular
    I'd argue it went downhill after the good prince. It feels like its shambling on for the sake of money, and the charm of the writing just isn't there.

    But man, the good prince was great.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    I love the Cinderella minis. They are excellent.

    Polars bears with assault rifles, folks.

  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    So I'm currently burning through Fables on my Kindle Fire and holy shit:
    Spoiler:

    I don't care how downhill the series supposedly goes after volume 11 I'm sticking with this series and most of the spinoff books minus Jack of Fables. Well if I can find some JoFs trades discounted at conventions then maybe I'll pick it up.

    If you don't mind spoiling it for me, what does he say?

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    So I'm currently burning through Fables on my Kindle Fire and holy shit:
    Spoiler:

    I don't care how downhill the series supposedly goes after volume 11 I'm sticking with this series and most of the spinoff books minus Jack of Fables. Well if I can find some JoFs trades discounted at conventions then maybe I'll pick it up.

    If you don't mind spoiling it for me, what does he say?
    Spoiler:

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Registered User regular
    Sons of Empire was one of the best Fables stories, especially the issue Wirehead mentions, its one of the best reversals in storytelling I've read in comics.

    But to give you some more context Phobos:
    Spoiler:

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Ugh, finally done with getting Fables on my Kindle. Spent over a hundred dollars getting the whole thing except for the first two volumes which I've already read and the crossover with JoFs.. Still need to get the Peter prose novel but that's only 8 dollars. Got both Cinderella trades and volume 15 and 16 coming tomorrow. I've had to drop a ton of trades I normally get to justify spending so much but I think it's worth it. I'm still enjoying the series after volume 11 and I can't wait to see the Tottenkinder/Mister Dark battle.

    To keep on topic...
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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    I really liked this write-up that David Brothers did, on Kaare Andrews; Spider-Man: Reign, and the highlights he provides on two of my favorite scenes.
    MJ’s corpse, being pulled along by Doc Ock’s tentacles, says “Stop being silly. That last day… you never let me finish. I tried to tell you, ‘Go… go get ‘em, Tiger.’”

    (This is the part that murders me every time.)

    This is why Spider-Man is about family. You think you’re a failure. You think you can’t live up to the expectations of others. You think that you should have been able to protect them, even when things beyond your control prove otherwise. You internalize all of this guilt and horror and self-loathing… and forget that your family is there for you, no matter what. Love is way deeper than that. On her deathbed, Mary Jane wanted Peter Parker to go do what he does. She wanted him to be Spider-Man, and all he felt was guilt over being Spider-Man. He didn’t understand that she loved all of him, Peter and Spidey both, and that he didn’t fail her at all. He became exactly what she wanted him to be. He was the man she loved, up until her dying moment.

    His love died and so did his drive, blah blah blah. More than that, though, is the fact that that action equates Spider-Man and Mary Jane. The two are irrevocably linked. Now, he’s Spider-Man because of her, rather than Ben. She saw the best of him. It actually reminds me of something from El-P’s “TOJ”:

    Everything you said, I took it all to heart
    And you spurred a change in me
    Before I could become a new sun, I had to fall apart
    And I can see that now, and I wish you well
    ‘Cause you saw what was good in me
    And I’ll be God damned if I didn’t see that myself


    If you want to summarize Peter and MJ’s relationship, that’s it right there. Mary Jane is a rider. She makes him better simply by believing in him, and in making him better, she makes the world a better place. Everything has a point. Everything happens for a reason.

    Spider-Man lost sight of the truth, and was lost for decades.

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    Reign got a lot of hate when it first came out, and not undeservedly so. It's a pretty naked homage to Dark Knight Returns, which I think rubbed some people the wrong way. Andrews uses a lot of CGI backgrounds, which look incredibly crummy. Then there was the whole radioactive spider-semen thing, that a lot of people got really hung up on. But, all the Mary Jane and Peter stuff is brilliant.

    If you've ever only heard the negative stuff, go read Brothers' entire write-up, and consider buying the book. I got mine during a nick-and-dent sale, but you can probably find the four-issue run in your comic shop's back-issue boxes, for a couple bucks.

  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    All I remember about Reign is the Spider-Wang.

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    That sounds pretty great. I need to read more comic stuff about romances.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    you'll love the sean mcceever run on spider-man loves mary jane then

  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    I do like relationships that are presented as mutually beneficial rather than as a dramatic hook.

    There are some standard ones that just bug me

    Any time someone starts up on oh man Sue Storm and Reed Richards are so estranged oh man because she's not smart but he is it's like for fuck's sake she is the leading field researcher of her era maybe she's married to this dude on account of them both being brilliant scientists who constantly explore awesome things?

    It is possible to write functional relationships that are engaging and fun to read, you don't need them to mope about their feelings.

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    you'll love the sean mcceever run on spider-man loves mary jane then

    I really do need to read that, it sounds tons of fun.

    @durandal4532 My current defining moment for Sue is #601 where she just blasts a bunch of Kree out of Johnny's ship after they vaguely threaten Reed. A lot of writers don't get the sleeping giant aspect of her character as a superheroine - by definition, she's not flashy or quick to act, but out of the entire FF, she is easily the most dangerous and the one you have to fear the most.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter I remember touch I need something moreRegistered User regular
    yeah, all I knew about Reign is how Mary Jane died

    then I opened up the trade at my library a while back, saw it was basically Dark Knight Returns, shook my head, and reshelved it

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