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My computer is breaking... again PART II

RaneadosRaneados police apologistyou shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
edited January 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
alright my computer is quite old by computer standards. About 6 years. It's been gutted, hit by lighting, dropped off chairs, the works

but I need it to live because I can't afford a new one

I recently got infected with the Antivirus Live thing, so i decided I might as well take it out as soon as I was aware it had installed itself



I followed the instructions, malwarebytes took care of it I think
I hope so, I can't update mawarebytes because of Error Code 732 (12029, 0). But that's a different topic I think



and right now I can only boot in Safe mode with networking. Trying to get into regular mode makes the computer load normally uup until the XP screen with that loading bar, then it flashes a bluescreen for about a millionth of a second and then the computer clicks a little and it restarts. I've managed to catch the word "corrupted" on the blue screen


I'm not tech savvy whatsoever but I messed around with starting it in different ways like a fucking chimp and I found out that, if I started it in safe mode with networking, it runs down the list of (processes?) it's running to start, and at the bottom it says like "press ESC to stop loading SPTD"

pressing escape and cancelling this lets me boot up, letting it go makes the computer click and restart again

googling and wikipediaing around a little it says that SPTD is part of daemontools? Did it get corrupt and is borking my computer? I was going to uninstall it then and there forever but I might as well ask before doing anything I can't take back.

help me I'm too poor to buy a new computer

and I don't have TV so I'll be stuck reading books all day every day

Raneados on

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    okay I fixed the malwarebytes updating problem. Why it uses Internet Explorer's internet options I don't know. the little bastard malware messed with my LAN settings

    the real problem still applies

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Oh and I think I have a browser hijack as well, nice

    good day for everything to happen D:

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    dwwatermelondwwatermelon Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Do you have your copy of windows around? Sounds like the poor thing could use a reformat and fresh install. That would get rid of your virus problem and probably help with speed in general. Since you can boot in safe mode you can probably get all your pictures, music, etc etc off it beforehand.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    well I did a reformat a few months ago, I still have that disk around

    but man that is a lot of CDs and time

    again

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    cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Pfft, you should be able to spare the half hour/hour to reformat. Nuke it.

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    rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Yep, nuke the sumbitch.
    If you can't even boot that's the best course of action.

    This time around get a secure browser, (Chrome, firefox +noscript), AVG, spywareblaster, all that stuff.
    All that is like the trojan condoms of the computing world.

    Oh, and you'd likely spend and already have spent more time trying to fix this than it would take to backup, nuke, restore. Plus you get the added benefit of shiny new speed with a reformat.

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    finalflight89finalflight89 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    That bluescreen that flashes when you boot Windows normally probably has some good information on it. Stop it from automatically restarting by selecting Disable Automatic Restart on System Failure on the startup menu (by pressing F8 while your computer boots).

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    illigillig Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    nuke it...

    then make yourself a nice restore CD with windows + updates (slipstream via nlite) to make the process easier in the futue

    and from now on, run an antivirus ALWAYS (Avast! is FREE), and don't download files from shady places

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Yeah, reformat, and stop downloading viruses.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    well

    last night my computer shit itself even more. It started not loading up at all, it would hang up on the drivers and .sys loading list and just fart forever

    that's why I haven't been around for like a day


    I cried a little, fought with it a little and then put in my windows disk in to go for a complete reformat.

    I ran through the recovery thing just for shits and giggles, if it managed to salvage it, hey that's all gravy

    and it did!

    look at me all up and running!
    Pfft, you should be able to spare the half hour/hour to reformat. Nuke it.

    It's not the complete reformat time I'm worrying about. I'd lose literally gigs and gigs of things that are nigh-on irreplaceable (Maybe Rane should learn to back up his stuff on CDs and drives. Well yes I should but that is money I don't have)
    rfalias wrote: »
    Yep, nuke the sumbitch.
    If you can't even boot that's the best course of action.

    This time around get a secure browser, (Chrome, firefox +noscript), AVG, spywareblaster, all that stuff.
    All that is like the trojan condoms of the computing world.

    Oh, and you'd likely spend and already have spent more time trying to fix this than it would take to backup, nuke, restore. Plus you get the added benefit of shiny new speed with a reformat.

    I have firefox. Fully up to date I thought. I never use anything else. It came though and installed itself while I was visiting a webpage (not even a bad webpage or porn or anything, just a webpage then BAM YOU HAVE A VIRUS BUY OUR SHIT)
    That bluescreen that flashes when you boot Windows normally probably has some good information on it. Stop it from automatically restarting by selecting Disable Automatic Restart on System Failure on the startup menu (by pressing F8 while your computer boots).

    I managed to get that off it last night before the complete fuckdeath

    blah blah computer software hardware issue

    if you've added any new components check them (I haven't)

    the BSOD technical info:

    ***STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001902FE, 0xf78c6380, 0xf78c607c, 0x89d8e805)
    illig wrote: »
    nuke it...

    then make yourself a nice restore CD with windows + updates (slipstream via nlite) to make the process easier in the futue

    and from now on, run an antivirus ALWAYS (Avast! is FREE), and don't download files from shady places

    noooo

    I think i have a restore CD with windows and service pack 2 (slipwhat via what?)

    apparently I don't have an antivirus running.... weird
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Yeah, reformat, and stop downloading viruses.

    noo I can't I have too much information

    which apparently I need to export elsewhere just in case this computer decides to bite the big one soon. I should look into external hard drives but again, that's cash I don't have

    and I didn't download anything! it just popped up through websurfing! not even shady websites!

    I BELIEVE when it came up, I got some window that pooped up with RUNTIME ERROR: 0 or something

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    cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Just wondering, was it the Vundo worm thing that ruined my computer too? It was a nasty thing that somehow got through what I felt was a safe machine.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    mine was Antivirus Live

    just installed itself on my computer, I didn't download anything

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    Torque MonkeyTorque Monkey Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    if you don't already rane, use MSE for your protection software, and i'd recommend an active regimen of ccleaner as often as you remember, since it only takes maybe 30 seconds to run.

    Any of the rogue antivirus/fraudware tools have a habbit of hanging out in your temp files for a little while before coming active. It's a distinct possibility the site you were browsing was compromised, but unless you had no AV software at all, it likely wasn't the particular site you were on when it popped up that was the culprit.

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    illigillig Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    ok, you don't run an antivirus, and you don't back up your GIGS AND GIGS OF VITALLY IMPORTANT DATA...

    have you heard the expression "playing with fire"?

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    TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane The Djinnerator At the bottom of a bottleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Raneados wrote: »
    and I didn't download anything! it just popped up through websurfing! not even shady websites!

    I BELIEVE when it came up, I got some window that pooped up with RUNTIME ERROR: 0 or something

    The way these fakealert Stupid-Not-Real AntiVirus things work is that they hide in ads on legitimate webpages. What you're seeing when it says "YOU'RE INFECTED! BUY OUR SHIT!" Is just a fake Javascript applet that's designed to look like a real Windows interface. If you were, say, using OS X and visited the same webpage, you'd get exactly the same thing. It'd look like a Windows program telling you you were infected. It's not a program - just a mockup webpage.

    The hell of it is, there's no way to close that webpage conventionally without downloading the virus. Hitting cancel, or the red X in the corner just initiates the download - Those aren't actually buttons anyway. They're just Javascript fakes that initiate the download. How the software gets launched is another thing entirely. I'm inclined to say that it's probably exploiting a security hole somewhere, because otherwise you'd have to agree to run the program explicitly, or else be fooled into running it.

    So, if it ever happens again: Hit Ctrl-Alt-Del, and nuke your browser immediately. The initial 'scanning' screen is just a fake out, so killing the browser should prevent it from doing anything nasty. It might get something in the cache, but a MBAM scan will filter that out afterward.

    Also: Always make sure Windows is up to date, and just as important, that you browser is up to date. These fake pieces of crap actually scan for old versions to exploit security holes. A really, really good thing to do is some kind of script blocking, as well. If you've got Javascript blocked, then the attack can't even launch most of the time.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    illig wrote: »
    ok, you don't run an antivirus, and you don't back up your GIGS AND GIGS OF VITALLY IMPORTANT DATA...

    have you heard the expression "playing with fire"?

    well i thought I was but apparently I forgot to install them

    and if you can tell me the cheapest way to back up all said data that would be peaches

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Raneados wrote: »
    illig wrote: »
    ok, you don't run an antivirus, and you don't back up your GIGS AND GIGS OF VITALLY IMPORTANT DATA...

    have you heard the expression "playing with fire"?

    well i thought I was but apparently I forgot to install them

    and if you can tell me the cheapest way to back up all said data that would be peaches

    You do realize how ridiculously inexpensive USB drives are, don't you? Blank CDs and DVDs aren't exactly going to bankrupt you either.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    45 - 70 bucks for 16 gigs isn't terribly cheap

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    ***STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001902FE, 0xf78c6380, 0xf78c607c, 0x89d8e805)

    These really don't tell you that much, and a BSOD on startup can be a huge variety of things.

    The most likely case, I think, is a corrupted driver or system file as a result of malware.

    If you can just find your OS disk you might be able to run a repair operation. I've had BSOD's in the past that were temporarily relieved by a repair operation.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    yeah I reinstalled the core files and drivers

    I think?

    so now it's running smoother

    and working

    so semi-fixed I suppose

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    You might consider Dropbox for some sort of data backup.

    You have to pay for it, but there isn't much in the way of legit data backup you won't have to pay for.

    I think you can buy up to 50 gigs of space for vital files.

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    rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Remember to scan everything before you put it back on a fresh install.
    There are 4gb drives for 13 bucks a pop. Don't come much cheaper than that.

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Raneados wrote: »
    45 - 70 bucks for 16 gigs isn't terribly cheap

    I have absolutely no idea where you're shopping, but $65 will get you a 32 gig USB drive. 16 gigs are only around $30. What exactly are you backing up that you need more than that?

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Raneados wrote: »
    45 - 70 bucks for 16 gigs isn't terribly cheap

    I have absolutely no idea where you're shopping, but $65 will get you a 32 gig USB drive. 16 gigs are only around $30. What exactly are you backing up that you need more than that?

    where is this? i checked overstock and they have 16 gig flash drives for 45 dollars

    where can I get a 16 gig for 30 dollars I will buy that tonight

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    ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150414%204025&name=$25%20-%20$50

    Personally I'd go with an external hard drive for backing stuff up, just for the capacity. I got a 500 gig drive for $100 as Best Buy a year ago and haven't filled it up yet.

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Raneados wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Raneados wrote: »
    45 - 70 bucks for 16 gigs isn't terribly cheap

    I have absolutely no idea where you're shopping, but $65 will get you a 32 gig USB drive. 16 gigs are only around $30. What exactly are you backing up that you need more than that?

    where is this? i checked overstock and they have 16 gig flash drives for 45 dollars

    where can I get a 16 gig for 30 dollars I will buy that tonight

    http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1262368640/ref=sr_kk_1?ie=UTF8&search-alias=aps&field-keywords=usb%2016gb

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    illigillig Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    you can get a 1TB external drive for less than $80

    http://www.macmall.com/p/product~dpno~7532251~pdp.ejchfbh;jsessionid=BBE655495ADD93568FD65CB73D85B7FF

    the only problem is that it's easy to backup a virus as well :D... so keep a full backup of your porn/music, etc. on the external, but burn tested clean vital files (i.e. your documents, family pictures, etc.) to DVD once a month or so... DVD-Rs cost pennies, so it's cheap insurance

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    LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Just to be That Guy...

    If, next time you format your drive, you do so with a 5GB Ubuntu partition next to your Windows partition, you will always have an (essentially) virus immune way to access the internet, and to rescue files from the toasted file structure on the other partition if this should happen again.

    And you can also use that partition for everything secure- that way if you get a keylogger it won't nab your credit card number.

    All you need is a CD and about 10 minutes.

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Update

    computer is running okay, I'm trying to budget an external hard drive so progress on that

    now my monitor is shitting itself, hooray!

    it's an LCD

    for a while whenever I start up my computer after a while of inactivity, I turn on the power strip, then computer and monitor. My monitor's power light will slowwwwly flicker on and off.

    Today i started it up and it did it forever. After i turned it on and off a few times it would turn on, then immediately say GOING TO SLEEP on the screen and go into sleep/standby mode.

    I'm hesitant to buy another fucking thing, so any clue what can fix this other than a new monitor ($$)

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