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Still The Real [Final Fantasy Thread]

Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
edited March 2010 in Games and Technology
Happy NEW FINAL FANTASY THREAD

A thread about Fantasy's that are Final. Not Phantasy. Not Dragon Quest. Not Lost Odyssey. Certainly not Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Blue Dragon, or Star Ocean. No The Last Remnant or Infinite Undiscovery. Not even Kingdom Hearts (You want a KH thread, that's fine, go make one.

You can however talk about:

Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy II
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy XI
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XIII *NEW, So try not to spoil.
Final Fantasy XIV

and the Poor Unfortunate Spin-off games.

Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Final Fantasy X-2
Dirge of Cerberus
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions
Final Fantasy 7 Crisis Core
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronics: Rings of Fate
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years:
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Final Fantasy Crystal Defenders
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a Darklord.
Final Fantasy Gaiden: 4 Warriors of Light
Final Fantasy:Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers.

I guess if you really want to you can talk about the Mana game released under the FF Adventure title or the three SaGa games released under the FF Legends Banner.

Anything about the games above is fair game.

This time around I'm going to do retrospectives on some of the missed titles. Basically the entire CC line besides the first one, After Years, Crisis Core, someone who truely loves the game and proves their worth to the thread can do Dirge, someone who has played more than a demo can do Crystal Defenders if they want. If one of you crazy importers can handle it they can do FF XIII.

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  • DunxcoDunxco Should get a suit Never skips breakfastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    CygnusZ wrote: »
    4 Dragoons is the way to go.

    Is there even enough gear kicking around in the surrounding towns to make that feasible? I know the weapons and armour shop are still closed at this point, so... *shrugs*

  • CygnusZCygnusZ Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Dunxco wrote: »
    CygnusZ wrote: »
    4 Dragoons is the way to go.

    Is there even enough gear kicking around in the surrounding towns to make that feasible? I know the weapons and armour shop are still closed at this point, so... *shrugs*

    I think you can get four spears and a ton of armor just by exploring the town throughly. Also, I do think that one of the weapons stores is open.

  • A duck!A duck! Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited January 2010
    Argh, you beat me to it you son of a bitch.

    Here I was being courteous and waiting for the old thread to at least hit 99 pages, but nooo.

    I'll get you next time, Gadget.

    Yeah, next time you can let it actually hit 100 pages. The threads aren't going to explode and kill the forum.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    CygnusZ wrote: »
    Goddamn. I just can't beat this fucking mission in XIII. I guess I could wait until the post-game to do so, but I want that damn Grow Egg.

    Here's the strategy:
    Spoiler:

    And, you're not really going to be hurting for it until the post-game. I can see why you want it though.

    Hmm. I guess I need to buy some more smokes then.

    edit: And yeah, I figured if I can get it before fighting more bosses, given the ridiculous amount of CP they give, that'd be nice.

  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Dunxco wrote: »
    I picked up my dusty DS the other day to play some FF3, and I remembered why I love this franchise so much.

    Then I got killed by a fucking giant eagle-man boss when he lightning-struck my party of Rogue/WM/2x Dragoon to death in two turns.

    ... I fucking hate this game.

    FFIII is my least favorite Final Fantasy game by a significant margin.

    That even includes Dirge of Cerberus...

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  • KitsurubamiKitsurubami Winnipeg, MBRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The re-re-releases of FFI and II for the PSP look interesting. I know it'll be the same gameplay mechanics with a new skin, but they look very pretty.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The re-re-releases of FFI and II for the PSP look interesting. I know it'll be the same gameplay mechanics with a new skin, but they look very pretty.

    What's this now? They're doing this again?

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Let's see.

    It's a set of PSP upgrades of a GBA sidegrade with new content of a PSX upgrade of 2 wonderswan color upgrades of two Famicom games.

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  • KitsurubamiKitsurubami Winnipeg, MBRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Renzo wrote: »
    The re-re-releases of FFI and II for the PSP look interesting. I know it'll be the same gameplay mechanics with a new skin, but they look very pretty.

    What's this now? They're doing this again?

    If by 'again' you mean two years ago, yeah.

    Trailer

    They look really nice.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh, I thought they were doing another re-release for the PSP. Nevermind.

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  • DarianDarian Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Renzo wrote: »
    Oh, I thought they were doing another re-release for the PSP. Nevermind.

    Have they released them for PSN yet?

  • ExcalipoorExcalipoor Registered User
    edited January 2010
    Is it silly of me to hope that FFXIV will support on-board graphics?

    I am concerned, because the system requirements for Last Remnant on steam are all "GTFO, puny laptop user"

  • nervenerve Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I just got Bahamut in FF13. The intro cutscene and fight for it was bad ASS.




    Also, the opening cutscene for chapter 11 (closing of 10?) is INSANE.

  • nervenerve Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Excalipoor wrote: »
    Is it silly of me to hope that FFXIV will support on-board graphics?

    I am concerned, because the system requirements for Last Remnant on steam are all "GTFO, puny laptop user"

    I doubt it, doesn't FFXIV use the same engine as FFXIII ? My computer probably can't handle it either :(

  • ReynoldsReynolds Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord Robot spaceship that itself contains a spaceship robotRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So, what's the latest news on FF Versus 13? It's supposed to be PS3 exclusive, right?

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  • Satanic JesusSatanic Jesus In a library with broken glasses Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I just accidently deleted my PSP FF1 save where I had everyone at level 99, just before the final boss (in case I wanted to beat his ass again.) At least I have a reason to play it again, as I love this game.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Play the real version of the game.

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  • Satanic JesusSatanic Jesus In a library with broken glasses Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    But I don't have that.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Reynolds wrote: »
    So, what's the latest news on FF Versus 13? It's supposed to be PS3 exclusive, right?

    For now. We'll see how long that lasts when they realize it's been in production all this time, and they essentially wasted plenty of time putting most of the Versus team to work on the Main 13 to let Versus just kind of sit there. (Unless they managed to move forward with the game with a fraction of the team?)

    But it might stay exclusive, who knows.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    So, what's the latest news on FF Versus 13? It's supposed to be PS3 exclusive, right?

    For now. We'll see how long that lasts when they realize it's been in production all this time, and they essentially wasted plenty of time putting most of the Versus team to work on the Main 13 to let Versus just kind of sit there. (Unless they managed to move forward with the game with a fraction of the team?)

    But it might stay exclusive, who knows.

    They've been pretty adamant about it.

    I can't help thinking the numbers that come out of FFXIII on 360 will play a role in deciding the ultimate fate of that exclusivity though.

    edit: Woo! Killed that monster and got my CP-doubling item, now to finish the final dungeon!

  • dachishdachish Registered User
    edited January 2010
    So what's the opinion of the new Crystal Chronicles? I'm out of the loop and didn't even know it existed until a few days ago. Worth bothering with?

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord Robot spaceship that itself contains a spaceship robotRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    From what I've been able to gather, it's a very interesting world with a cool main character, of a type that doesn't usually appear in typical JRPGs. Lots of exciting events involving his telekinesis powers, weapons, airships, and other wild battles.

    And, it's all ruined by the typical sloppy waggle controls that plenty of Wii games suffer from. I've heard after you realize you can't really pull off anything cool when you want to, the game nosedives really fast.

    The trailers and vids looked really cool, though.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I feel like there are few developers who can match Square Enix in the realm of making it abundantly clear how much they care about a given game.

    edit: To be clear, I'm including how well they show us when they don't give a flying fuck about a game, say, pretty much the entire Mana and Crystal Chronicles line.

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I've give you Mana but they've put a ton of effort into each and every CC game.

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  • DunxcoDunxco Should get a suit Never skips breakfastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Am I the only one here who enjoyed the hell out of CC on the Gamecube? Best fun I had on that console with four other people since Timesplitters 2.

  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    But I don't have that.

    It's on the Virtual Console. No excuses!

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I've give you Mana but they've put a ton of effort into each and every CC game.

    Didn't the asshole who created the Mana series say that he hated Secret of Mana, and that's why he continues to push different gameplay with the newer titles?

    Because seriously, I wish I could get paid to be so wrong.

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  • dachishdachish Registered User
    edited January 2010
    Reynolds wrote: »
    From what I've been able to gather, it's a very interesting world with a cool main character, of a type that doesn't usually appear in typical JRPGs. Lots of exciting events involving his telekinesis powers, weapons, airships, and other wild battles.

    And, it's all ruined by the typical sloppy waggle controls that plenty of Wii games suffer from. I've heard after you realize you can't really pull off anything cool when you want to, the game nosedives really fast.

    The trailers and vids looked really cool, though.

    Damn, that's too bad. I was getting pretty pumped reading your first sentence. Oh how the waggle makes me sad =(

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Let's see.

    It's a set of PSP upgrades of a GBA sidegrade with new content of a PSX upgrade of 2 wonderswan color upgrades of two Famicom games.

    You forgot the MSX version.

  • nervenerve Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I didn't really agree when people were saying FF13 is the most difficult final fantasy ever. Sure, the combat is more difficult, but when you die there is no penalty and you respawn just a few steps away from the pack you pulled. Then I got to chapter 11, what the fucking fuck.

  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    nerve wrote: »
    I didn't really agree when people were saying FF13 is the most difficult final fantasy ever. Sure, the combat is more difficult, but when you die there is no penalty and you respawn just a few steps away from the pack you pulled. Then I got to chapter 11, what the fucking fuck.

    Even ignoring the increase in difficulty, I think that's generally what people mean by "It's the most difficult FF game". The fights are harder. Nevermind that when you fail you can try again immediately...the point is that there is actual challenge in combat, which while flirted with in FFXII, had largely been a non-issue in the series since FF5.

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I dunno, FF XII (Which I just picked up on the cheap) isn't that hard unless you decide you want to deviate from the set story path... at which point it kills your firstborn child and rapes your face with a meat grinder.

    Aside from that, I've only found a few of the story bosses mildly difficult.

    Also, did the FF 12 team work on the FF IV DS remake, or do they just have a serious hard on for it? There's so many similarities and shared items between the two it's kind of hard to just chalk it up to coincidence.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    XII has a lot of throwbacks to many previous FF games. Not as much as IX, but yeah.

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  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Throwbacks are common in plenty but FF12 seems to have some very FF IV specific items.
    It has almost the exact same title music, load screen music, heavy intro emphasis on airships. Zeromus is a side boss, they have essentially a loadstone cavern section. And that's all I can think of off the top of my head right now. And of course the standard Cid/Chocobo tropes, but those are in almost every FF game.

    Just seems there were several elements specifically lifted from FF IV as opposed to the generic shared elements the rest of the series is known for.

  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Throwbacks are common in plenty but FF12 seems to have some very FF IV specific items.
    It has almost the exact same title music, load screen music, heavy intro emphasis on airships. Zeromus is a side boss, they have essentially a loadstone cavern section. And that's all I can think of off the top of my head right now. And of course the standard Cid/Chocobo tropes, but those are in almost every FF game.

    Just seems there were several elements specifically lifted from FF IV as opposed to the generic shared elements the rest of the series is known for.

    Eh, XIII has a lot of very obvious homages in it as well. I don't put much stock in it being anything more than trying to wink slyly at the hardcore fans.

    Also, I just finished the final boss of XIII and it was pretty awesome. The fight was challenging but not overly so, and the ending was enjoyable albeit short.

    I look forward to now doing all the monster hunts and turning my characters into ridiculous combat monsters.

  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I just got FFIV for the DS in the mail today.

    I have never, ever, ever died to a random battle at the very beginning of a Final Fantasy game since I got the first FF game on the NES.

    Good grief.

  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    korodullin wrote: »
    I just got FFIV for the DS in the mail today.

    I have never, ever, ever died to a random battle at the very beginning of a Final Fantasy game since I got the first FF game on the NES.

    Good grief.

    Heh, I remember that happening to me when I imported the game before I knew any Japanese. I figured "It's FF4, I know how this works" and got raped.

  • EclecticGrooveEclecticGroove Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    korodullin wrote: »
    I just got FFIV for the DS in the mail today.

    I have never, ever, ever died to a random battle at the very beginning of a Final Fantasy game since I got the first FF game on the NES.

    Good grief.

    Yeah, they made the game a LOT harder. I didn't find the beginning bad, but once I got through the Village of Mist? Yeah, started to get a whole lot tougher. Status effects are your friend, learn them and use them well... many enemies and bosses tend to be vulnerable to at least one major status ailment (slow, silence, etc).

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The beginning has always been sort of difficult in any FF4 version especially if you come into it all cocky, as those guys hit hard.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    halkun wrote: »
    Let's see.

    It's a set of PSP upgrades of a GBA sidegrade with new content of a PSX upgrade of 2 wonderswan color upgrades of two Famicom games.

    You forgot the MSX version.

    It's clearly based on the Famicom version. :P

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