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Deus Ex: contains unmarked spoilers

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck you must go on i cant go on ill go onRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This is utterly ruined for me by insane mouse acceleration. WHY UNREALENGINE WHYYYYYYYY

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    the silenced assault rifle is basically just like the silenced sniper rifle, only it can fire rounds faster!

    Deus Ex to me hit the perfect sweet spot between being cinematic and immersive, and giving you a ton of gameplay options. It seems like with how high production costs are these days, companies are really unwilling to make a game that you can go through while "missing" a substantial portion of it. I played through deus ex a bunch of times, and until the last couple runs I was still finding new and interesting things.

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  • DozingDragonDozingDragon Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The random MJ 12 guys below Hell's Kitchen, the strange voices of the MiBs, sometimes this game's atmosphere is just too damn impressive for being a ten year old game.

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Businessman!Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This is utterly ruined for me by insane mouse acceleration. WHY UNREALENGINE WHYYYYYYYY

    Isn't there a fix for it in the OP? Something about the game running too fast on modern rigs?

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck you must go on i cant go on ill go onRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It's not running fast. Basically what happens is unless you activate a setting called direct input - which disables the mouse in menus and your inventory, making the game an ache - you get absolutely insane mouse acceleration on unreal engine games on vista. I've googled around for some time and been unable to find a satisfactory solution.

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  • darksteeldarksteel Registered User
    edited January 2010
    This essay is one of the best reads if you want to get an idea of why Deus Ex was so awesome. 10 years on and nothing can really match this game.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Thanks Gort! The Dream RealmRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Why it not quite 'reinstalling it', I might track down a copy of the PS2 verison again.

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  • Muddy WaterMuddy Water Quiet Batperson Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh, what a coincidence. Tonight I'll be playing this game for the first time ever.

  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Why it not quite 'reinstalling it', I might track down a copy of the PS2 verison again.

    Please don't, buy it on steam and play it how it was meant to be played.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Thanks Gort! The Dream RealmRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Please don't, buy it on steam and play it how it was meant to be played.

    I did. It was okay, but I also did fairly well on the old PS2 version. I like the extra little load areas, like the Liberty Vistor center, etc that added ambience to the game.

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  • ForarForar #432 Already prepping for Toronto Fan Expo!Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh, what a coincidence. Tonight I'll be playing this game for the first time ever.

    I wish I could be you.

    And that's not some derisive bullshit, I sincerely wish I could play Deus Ex again "for the first time". It's that damned good.

    Enjoy it. Savour it as you would a fine wine.

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck you must go on i cant go on ill go onRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    10 years on and nothing can really match this game.

    VTM Bloodlines is vastly better as an immersive RPG and experience imo.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    VTM is also great, but I wouldn't say that it's vastly better (or even better at all.)

    It's crazy that I almost still want to install and take another run at this game, even though I've played it to death and I know I'll get bord somewhere in the middle of hell's kitchen

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This thread needs more Orange, all I see is Lemon Lime.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck you must go on i cant go on ill go onRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    VTM is also great, but I wouldn't say that it's vastly better (or even better at all.)

    It's not better overall, but it's much more immersive (while it lasts).

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    While VTM followed a similar model, and was at times very immersive (hello observatory), I don't think it matched Deus Ex's story and progression.

    It's definitely one of my favorites since Deus Ex, though, which is saying a lot.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    10 years on and nothing can really match this game.

    VTM Bloodlines is vastly better as an immersive RPG and experience imo.

    I've been playing Deus Ex for the first time as well, and I have to agree.

    I like the dialogue segments, but so far, I'm not too fond of the gameplay. It could change, though. I'm just having a hard time with the Statue.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I can't help but listen to that orchestrated theme on loop...

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  • DrakeDrake Blow it all up ForeverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    10 years on and nothing can really match this game.

    VTM Bloodlines is vastly better as an immersive RPG and experience imo.

    I've been playing Deus Ex for the first time as well, and I have to agree.

    I like the dialogue segments, but so far, I'm not too fond of the gameplay. It could change, though. I'm just having a hard time with the Statue.

    Stick with it. Once you level up a bit, find some good Augs and get some weapons upgraded it all starts to flow much better.

  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I always kind of felt sorry for the tiny cleaning bots.

    Didn't stop me from chasing them from time to time though.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That's terror.

    Old men... are the future.

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  • apotheosapotheos Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited January 2010
    How about that voice acting in Hong Kong.

    Deus Ex is great, except when its terrible.



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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Drake wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    10 years on and nothing can really match this game.

    VTM Bloodlines is vastly better as an immersive RPG and experience imo.

    I've been playing Deus Ex for the first time as well, and I have to agree.

    I like the dialogue segments, but so far, I'm not too fond of the gameplay. It could change, though. I'm just having a hard time with the Statue.

    Stick with it. Once you level up a bit, find some good Augs and get some weapons upgraded it all starts to flow much better.

    Funny thing about Deus Ex, if you're not fond of the game play change the way you're playing the game.

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  • TubeTube Working As Intended Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2010
    10 years on and nothing can really match this game.

    VTM Bloodlines is vastly better as an immersive RPG and experience imo.

    Also Halo is a much better first person shooter.

    I mean while we're bringing up the most vaguely related games and all. Dead Rising was a much better free roaming zombie sim also.

  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    That's him. He's a cop.

    *thwip*

    Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! Euuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaggh

    Great, great game, but some of the worst VA ever. There are so many moments where you can tell the VA had no direction, they were basically guessing as to the correct inflection to put on their lines. And there is a lot of dialogue that is poorly read, period - like the NSF leader at the top of the statue of liberty. And the terrible foreign accents.

    But yeah, still so immersive. I remember after finally crawling out of the sewers and arriving at the airport feeling like I'd been through an ordeal and that the end of the game must be near...

    Also, the hell's kitchen music is so catchy.

  • TubeTube Working As Intended Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2010
    I don't know how any can complain about the voice acting in a game where the lead role is played by Jake from the California Dreams.

    Don't wake me uuuuuuuuup...

  • Mr.BrickMr.Brick Registered User
    edited January 2010
    My kingdom for an HD remake of Deus Ex.
    I will gladly pay millions for it.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck you must go on i cant go on ill go onRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I mean while we're bringing up the most vaguely related games and all. Dead Rising was a much better free roaming zombie sim also.

    You mean other first person RPG/FPS hybrids with extensive character customisation and a choice-based story?

    O

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I was suprised by the VA in the nameless mod, it's all pretty well done.

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  • TubeTube Working As Intended Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2010
    I mean while we're bringing up the most vaguely related games and all. Dead Rising was a much better free roaming zombie sim also.

    You mean other first person RPG/FPS hybrids with extensive character customisation and a choice-based story?

    O

    Bloodlines has only the vaguest pretensions to being an FPS, and Deus Ex has only the vaguest pretensions to being an RPG. The "choice based story" in Deus Ex is limited to which ending you pick. The two games have completely different gameplay, completely different settings and I find comparisons between the two to be pretty strained. They're both excellent games, but they're not similar games.

  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Yeah, I'm playing VTM at the moment, and while I'm finding it impressive how the RPG element is worked into the game, it isn't even coming close to comparing to Deus Ex to me. Sure, the VA work is a helluva lot better, but the overwhelmingly pretentious vampire stuff (a seduce skill? Really?), though still funny as it tries to take itself seriously, is really starting to bug me. I just get so tired of hearing how weak and stupid humans are, yet the vampires are all quaking in their boots at slightest possibility of humans discovering them. Plus, Deus Ex never handed me missions where I just wanted them to be over already, but VTM has handed me at least a couple of those. The monsters in the sewers section is just boring and terrible and for some reason is the longest mission yet. And because it's stereotypical vampire fiction, everyone is screwing everyone over and you know from the start that you can't really trust anybody. While I certainly wouldn't object to more games following the example of VTM in terms of RPG design, it isn't a Deus Ex competitor to me.

    It was pretty funny when I scared an old lady into a heart attack, though.

    So what is this nameless mod? This is the first I'm hearing of it. I haven't played Deus Ex in a little while so I suppose I could give it a shot.

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  • FiziksFiziks Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Why has this not been posted yet?A Bomb!

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Rogue Coral Springs, FLRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Much like Deus Ex(reportedly anyway), V:TM has many, many ways to resolve a given situation. Especially through dialogue. There's so many ways a conversation can turn out, like through the aforementioned seduction option.

    Or if you want to just waltz in and turn everyone to dust, you can do that too.


    And yeah, everyone hates the sewers.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fiziks wrote: »
    Why has this not been posted yet?A Bomb!
    It was. In the OP.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck you must go on i cant go on ill go onRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    They're both excellent games, but they're not similar games.

    Dudemanbro, they are really similar.

    They have almost identical shooting mechanics (skill increases accuracy represented by a similarly styled moving crosshair), they have almost identical problem-solving mechanics (lockpicking, hacking, sneaking etc etc) and a similarly open-ended approach to "questing". They even are both fully voice-acted!

    I mean, if I was picking the closest game to VTM Bloodlines it would probably be deus ex.

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  • TubeTube Working As Intended Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2010
    By that logic Dragon Age is also similar to Deus Ex. They both have voice acting! And quests! And lockpicking!

  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck you must go on i cant go on ill go onRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    By that logic Dragon Age is also similar to Deus Ex. They both have voice acting! And quests! And lockpicking!

    And dragon age is not directly controlled first person with shooting or a classless development system and has an alignment meter and................

    It's cool you think they're not similar, but by every normal measurement they really are very similar. Plenty of VTM B reviews at the time even mentioned how like Deus Ex it was. The idea that the comparison to VTM is remotely like a comparison to halo is pretty silly.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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