[!] Metal Gear Monday - MARK ALL SPOILERS, some people are still virgins in here.

VALVEjunkie

manwiththemachinegun wrote: »

I'm not saying they didn't fit the setting. But in comparison with pretty much every other boss character out there, they were lacking in the story department.

Hell, even Python in Portable Ops had a better story than the four main Cobras.

thats the thing, though

that was intentional

E: wait I worded that wrong shit

EE: there we go

AnteCantelope

VALVEjunkie wrote: »

manwiththemachinegun wrote: »

I'm not saying they didn't fit the setting. But in comparison with pretty much every other boss character out there, they were lacking in the story department.

Hell, even Python in Portable Ops had a better story than the four main Cobras.

thats the thing, though

that was intentional

E: wait I worded that wrong shit

EE: there we go

Even so, I thought that the game was really lacking story in the middle there. The story had a good start and end, but everything in the middle was a bit simple and straightforward. More interesting characters might have carried the story a bit better.

manwiththemachinegun

Honestly, the boss that you fight before The Fury had more personality, wit, and challenge than all the rest of the Cobras combined.

I refer of course to,

Spoiler:

The Ladder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGKsGtv6Dqo

VALVEjunkie

hahaha :^:

Vegan

manwiththemachinegun wrote: »

Honestly, the boss that you fight before The Fury had more personality, wit, and challenge than all the rest of the Cobras combined.

I refer of course to,

Spoiler:

The Ladder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGKsGtv6Dqo

what a thriiiiill....

manwiththemachinegun

Bwahaha, for those interested, this is the best Metal Gear parody game I've ever seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztUC05BNuPg&feature=related

Renzo

holy shit, that's really nice

Nocren

Wow... those voices are pretty good.

Igort

Something's Missing from the Japanese Version of Peace Walker

Kojima posted yesterday night that Peace Walker has been given a T rating in America. This would correspond to 13 years in Japan and 15 years in Europe. In Japan, however, the game's rating is actually C, or 15 years.

To keep the Japanese rating from a D, it seems Kojima Productions had to remove something from the game. Wrote Kojima, the PSP is supported by younger people, and so during Peace Walker's production the staff made the effort to avoid grotesque scenes. However, there's "a certain scene," a "standard element that's "absolutely necessary for MGS," that apparently could not make it under the C rating. They had to remove this scene from the Japanese version of the game.

The European and North American versions of the game are the original version without the adjustments made for the Japanese version. Kojima suggests that people try to compare the versions if they get the chance. Although for those who will be playing the Japanese version, he assures that it's just fine -- the game's feel hasn't changed.

Kojima seems to be concerned about the need to remove the content for the rating. "There's tolerance for fantasy games, but for games where you show war or real violence between people, you apparently can't complain about anything. With this, it seems impossible to communicate something through games."

Apparently they've also confirmed that all the product placement featured in the game is Japan exclusive, and will not be seen in the American/European versions.

AnteCantelope

A torture scene, I'm guessing.

Renzo

So we get the untouched scene, and no product placement?

Awesome.

VALVEjunkie

Renzo wrote: »

So we get the untouched scene, and no product placement?

Awesome.

yaaaaaaaay!

Darth_Mogs

But do we still get Monster Gear Hunter?

VALVEjunkie

I'm almost positive we do

god damn this thread moves like molasses

Xenogears of Bore

AnteCantelope wrote: »

A torture scene, I'm guessing.

This is a very very good guess.

agoaj

It's got to be a ball grab.

agoaj

manwiththemachinegun wrote: »

Bwahaha, for those interested, this is the best Metal Gear parody game I've ever seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztUC05BNuPg&feature=related

Playing through this now, it's amazing. Merry Gear 1 is worth playing first too.

Spoiler:

THE PRESENT!

agoaj

Beat it in 2:16:16
It's incredible. Any metal gear fan has to play these two games.

VALVEjunkie

I tried to play the first one but there was no save system and it kept crashing
like after the tenth time I just said fuck it

havent tried the second one, though

Deaderinred

i just finally got a ps3 and just beat mgs4.

can someone explain something to me

Spoiler:

what the hell was solidus? i know the reasons behind the cloning project got explained but eva forgot to mention anything about solidus and why he was made, i might of missed this but as far as i can tell he was there solely so his body could be harvested to rebuilt big boss so he could say hi to snake and die again.

oh and is this right, you only get two callable codec people through the whole game? the hell.

manwiththemachinegun

Deaderinred wrote: »

i just finally got a ps3 and just beat mgs4.

can someone explain something to me

Spoiler:

what the hell was solidus? i know the reasons behind the cloning project got explained but eva forgot to mention anything about solidus and why he was made, i might of missed this but as far as i can tell he was there solely so his body could be harvested to rebuilt big boss so he could say hi to snake and die again.

oh and is this right, you only get two callable codec people through the whole game? the hell.

Spoiler:

Solidus was designed to be a 'perfect' clone of Big Boss. Balanced in all of his attributes such as wisdom, along with combat skill. Snake was ultimately the 'inferior' test bed to perferct Liquid. Basically Big Boss on steriods. Snake of course overcomes that handicap because he is the deadiest son of a bitch on Earth. While the novel is terrible for the most part, the novelization of MGS goes in depth with Dr. Clark overseeing the birth of Liquid, Solid and Solidus. They were slated for government service before they were out of the womb. It's also funny because it mocks the whole, 'dominant gene' business in a rather funny way.

MarioG

So guys, there's some kind of internet code hunt going on on the Konami site for Peace Walker. You get to make squads and get prizes. Let us hunt!

VALVEjunkie

say what now? o_O

VALVEjunkie

maaaaan you have to be 18

oh well

Bursar

MarioG wrote: »

So guys, there's some kind of internet code hunt going on on the Konami site for Peace Walker. You get to make squads and get prizes. Let us hunt!

Got a link?

VALVEjunkie

Bursar wrote: »

MarioG wrote: »

So guys, there's some kind of internet code hunt going on on the Konami site for Peace Walker. You get to make squads and get prizes. Let us hunt!

Got a link?

its on the konami.com front page

Bursar

Sounds interesting. If I'd known sooner, I'd have spent my time otherwise goofing around at the office on this instead of what I was doing.

Profile name's Bursar.

jhunter46

I loved MGS4 but I had never played the rest of the series so I thought I'd go back and play the rest of the series starting with the GC remake of the Metal Gear Solid. Only it is kicking my ass. I haven't been able to get out of the Tank Hanger without getting killed. Is the game really this difficult or do I just suck ass?

Deaderinred

man what, you've only played mgs4? D:

also i'd play the psx version, much better and polished, and make sure you play mgs3 before you die, so good.

Winky

manwiththemachinegun wrote: »

Deaderinred wrote: »

i just finally got a ps3 and just beat mgs4.

can someone explain something to me

Spoiler:

what the hell was solidus? i know the reasons behind the cloning project got explained but eva forgot to mention anything about solidus and why he was made, i might of missed this but as far as i can tell he was there solely so his body could be harvested to rebuilt big boss so he could say hi to snake and die again.

oh and is this right, you only get two callable codec people through the whole game? the hell.

Spoiler:

Solidus was designed to be a 'perfect' clone of Big Boss. Balanced in all of his attributes such as wisdom, along with combat skill. Snake was ultimately the 'inferior' test bed to perferct Liquid. Basically Big Boss on steriods. Snake of course overcomes that handicap because he is the deadiest son of a bitch on Earth. While the novel is terrible for the most part, the novelization of MGS goes in depth with Dr. Clark overseeing the birth of Liquid, Solid and Solidus. They were slated for government service before they were out of the womb. It's also funny because it mocks the whole, 'dominant gene' business in a rather funny way.

Spoiler:

I haven't played MGS4, does it rectify the atrocities that MGS1 visited upon Mendelian genetics?

Nuzak

hahahah

no

no, i'm afraid to say that both biologists, physicists, and any scientist specialising in nanotechnology will literally die if they glimpse an MGS4 cutscene attempting to explain why revolver ocelot is speaking like liquid snake

Deaderinred

i think it would be worth it just to see their faces.

manwiththemachinegun

jhunter46 wrote: »

I loved MGS4 but I had never played the rest of the series so I thought I'd go back and play the rest of the series starting with the GC remake of the Metal Gear Solid. Only it is kicking my ass. I haven't been able to get out of the Tank Hanger without getting killed. Is the game really this difficult or do I just suck ass?

Which part? The laser hall or the guards?

If it's the guards, just pick them off one by one. Hiding under the tank is a good place to do it. All you need to do in that entire area is get down stairs and hit the elevator call button. The items you can pick up later, and it's easier to do so with the elevator as a starting position.

joshofalltrades

Man, MGS and MGS2 were fun but MGS3 is just a slog for me so far. It's weird how everybody says it's the best one. The jungle stuff is getting old.

LockedOnTarget

I never get the complaints about the science in MGS. It's a fictional, wacky version of the universe where these things work differently. I can accept that.

AnteCantelope

I always figured that the science was fine, but that Liquid Snake was an idiot and completely misunderstood everything.

Hedgethorn

joshofalltrades wrote: »

Man, MGS and MGS2 were fun but MGS3 is just a slog for me so far. It's weird how everybody says it's the best one. The jungle stuff is getting old.

The first half of MSG3 is the worst; the game gets considerably better after the half-way point. Or so I think. In particular, playing through the same forest section twice does get old fast.

joshofalltrades

Hedgethorn wrote: »

joshofalltrades wrote: »

Man, MGS and MGS2 were fun but MGS3 is just a slog for me so far. It's weird how everybody says it's the best one. The jungle stuff is getting old.

The first half of MSG3 is the worst; the game gets considerably better after the half-way point. Or so I think. In particular, playing through the same forest section twice does get old fast.

What's the half-way point? I just beat

Spoiler:

The Fear

and am back in the warehouse looking for the door towards the mountains.

Xenogears of Bore

You're getting closer to the end.

VALVEjunkie

Spoiler:

Xenogears of Bore wrote: »

You're getting closer to The End.

e: shit that might be a spoiler

anywho... who else is counting the seconds 'till Peace Walker?