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The Final Tonight Show With Conan O'Brien Thread

Starring:

CONAN O'BRIEN

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ANDY RICHTER

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JAY LENO

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DAVID LETTERMAN

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CRAIG FERGUSON

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JIMMY KIMMEL

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THE OTHER JIMMY

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AND CARSON DALY

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2010
    Okay Jimmy is pretty bad but QuestHATRED

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  • WimbleWimble Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    but you forget one thing!

    I always smile when you post, goobs

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  • BrogeyBrogey Team Instinct Santa Monica, CAModerator mod
    edited January 2010
    I hear Jay Leno explains his position on his show tonight.

    Guess I'll catch that in 10 mins.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Yo soy........ CONANDO

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  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This thread title made me sad

    I'm going to pour one out for Conan

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  • nateknatek Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bogey, leno was on THREE HOURS AGO!

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  • Bogey wrote: »
    I hear Jay Leno explains his position on his show tonight.

    Guess I'll catch that in 10 mins.

    I'll put it in spoilers for everyone that doesn't want to hear jay talk or lives in a place with a proper time zone:
    "I thought maybe I should address this. At least give you my view of what has been going on here at NBC. Oh, let’s start in 2004. 2004 I’m sitting in my office, an NBC executive comes in and says to me, listen, Conan O’Brien has gotten offers from other networks. We don’t want him to go, so we’re going to give him ‘The Tonight Show.’ I said, ‘well, I’ve been number one for 12 years.’ They said, ‘we know that, but we don’t think you can sustain that.’ I said, ‘okay. How about until I fall to number two, then you fire me?’ ‘No, we made this decision.’ I said, ‘that’s fine.’ Don’t blame Conan O’Brien. Nice guy, good family guy, great guy. He and I have talked and not a problem since then. That’s what managers and people do, they try to get something for their clients. I said, ‘I’ll retire just to avoid what happened the last time.’ Okay.

    So time goes by and we stay number one up until the day we leave. We hand - (applause)-No, no. Okay, but I’m leaving before my contract is out. About six to eight months early. So before I could go anywhere else, I would be at least a year or 18 months before I could go and do a show somewhere else. I said to NBC, ‘would you release me from my contract.’ They said, ‘we want to keep you here.’ Okay. What are your ideas? They said, ‘how about primetime?’ I said, ‘that will never work.’ No, no, we want to put you on at 10:00. We have done focus groups. People will love you at 10:00. Look at these studies showing Jay’s chin at 10:00. People will go crazy. Didn’t seem like a good idea at the time. I said, ‘alright, can I keep my staff?’ There are 175 people that work here. I said, ‘can I keep my staff?’ Yes, you can. Let’s try it. We guarantee you two years on the air, guaranteed.

    Now for the first four or five months against original shows like “CSI” you’ll get killed, but in the spring and summer when the reruns come, that’s when you’ll pick up. Okay, great. I agree to that.

    Four months go by, we don’t make it. Meanwhile, Conan’s show during the summer, we’re not on, was not doing well. The great hope was that we would help him. Well, we didn’t help him any, okay. They come and go, ‘this show isn’t working. We want to let you go.’ Can you let me out of my contract? No, you’re still a valuable asset to this company. How valuable can I be? You fired me twice. How valuable can I be? Okay. So then, the affiliates are not happy. The affiliates are the ones that own the TV stations. They’re the ones that sort of makes the decisions, they’re not happy with your performance and Conan is not doing well at 11:30. I said, ‘what’s your idea?’ They said, ‘well, look, how about you do a half hour show at 11:30?’ Now, where I come from, when your boss gives you a job and you don’t do it well, I think we did a good job here, but we didn’t’ get the ratings, so you get humbled. I said, ‘okay, I’m not crazy about doing a half hour, but okay. What do you want to do with Conan?’ We’ll put him on at midnight, or 12:05, keeps “The Tonight Show” does all that, he gets the whole hour. I said, okay. You think Conan will go for that? Yes, yes. (laughter) Almost guarantee you. I said okay. Shake hands, that’s it. I don’t have a manager, I don’t have an agent, that’s my handshake deal.

    Next thing I see Conan has a story in the paper saying he doesn’t want to do that. They come back to me and they say if he decides to walk and doesn’t want to do it, do you want the show back? I go, ‘yeah, I’ll take the show back. If that’s what he wants to do. This way, we keep our people working, fine.’ So that’s pretty much where we are. It looks like we might be back at 11:30, I’m not sure. I don’t know. (applause) I don’t know. But through all of this - through all of this, Conan O’Brien has been a gentleman. He’s a good guy. I have no animosity towards him. This is all business. If you don’t get the ratings, they take you off the air. I think you know this town, you can do almost anything. You get ratings they keep you. I wasn't getting the ratings. He wasn't getting the ratings. That was NBC’s solution. It didn’t work. So we might have an answer for you tomorrow. So, we’ll see. That’s basically where it is."

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  • CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Conaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnn

    Saying goodbye to the only talk show host that could ever hold my interest! :(

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  • JordynJordyn Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    can we talk some more about Norm too? I was gonna post some more Norm stuff.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    At least Conan's ratings are doing great now!

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  • Jordyn wrote: »
    can we talk some more about Norm too? I was gonna post some more Norm stuff.

    like anyone could say no to more norm

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Leno's still a swine.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Haha ya, Conan is going to go off the air at #1 just like Jay!

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  • CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Jordyn wrote: »
    can we talk some more about Norm too? I was gonna post some more Norm stuff.

    there is always room for more Norm

    here is one of my favorite moments

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBe-eYM0fGc

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    OP lacks
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  • he's kind of...removed himself from the fray, I suppose

    but then, so has jimmy fallon

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  • WimbleWimble Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    did anyone post this norm appearance in the old thread?

    anyway I like that appearance of norm macdonald on the late night with conan o'brien show

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    he's kind of...removed himself from the fray, I suppose

    but then, so has jimmy fallon

    Jimmy's on NBC and probably doesn't want to risk his contract getting axed over something that he has had no part in.

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  • Frank BrakFrank Brak Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I just don't understand why Jay can't see that taking back the Tonight Show moniker is in such poor taste given the way this whole thing has gone down.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Crashmo wrote: »
    Conaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnn

    Saying goodbye to the only talk show host that could ever hold my interest! :(

    and you can say hello again when his Fox show debuts this fall

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  • BucketmanBucketman Dyslexic Puppy Skraggle RockRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I guess I just don't understand how people can not like conan.

    Like we where talking about this whole thing and work and everyone who I consider cool where like "Man Jay Leno just isn't funny, Conan rocks" even one of the 45 year old managers who grew up with Leno likes Conan more. But then theres these two guys who...well there not like rednecks or anything but there as hillbilly as you can be out here, there all "NO WAY! Leno is amazing Conan sucks"

    I just don't get it. What where people watching?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    Frank Brak wrote: »
    I just don't understand why Jay can't see that taking back the Tonight Show moniker is in such poor taste given the way this whole thing has gone down.

    You really aren't giving him much credit. His speech is what you would call a positive spin.

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  • BucketmanBucketman Dyslexic Puppy Skraggle RockRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    he's kind of...removed himself from the fray, I suppose

    but then, so has jimmy fallon

    Jimmy's on NBC and probably doesn't want to risk his contract getting axed over something that he has had no part in.

    People at the Golden Globes where like that. At lunch today I saw Inside Edition because it was on at the restaurant and they tried to talk to a bunch of NBC people and there all like "No opinion. I'm just glad to have work."

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  • cheshirecheshire Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I hope when he takes back over the ratings drop.

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  • BrogeyBrogey Team Instinct Santa Monica, CAModerator mod
    edited January 2010
    Interesting. We've been waiting to hear Leno's position on all this, his silence over the last week seemed to only fuel the media's vitriol. I was honestly surprised at how positive he was towards Conan.

    However, I still believe NBC's best step forward was to just cut Leno loose and buy him out instead of Conan. This current situation is only going to destroy both of them further. :(

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I wish I had been old enough to watch Johnny Carson, now that looked like sum good tv.

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  • BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It was basically Leno but done by a charming mid-westerner

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  • The thing is, Jay Leno can't say anything bad about Conan, really, and expect anything good to come of it. It's questionable how much of this was Jay's doing and how much of it was the network's, but there's no question that Conan is getting screwed here. Throwing any shit at Conan would pretty much ruin any goodwill people had for Leno.

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I saw Conan live when he was in Canada, he signed my GBA
    I wish I had a picture of that on this computer

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  • FrankoFranko Sometimes I really wish I had four feet so I could dance with myself to the drumbeat Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I noticed the part were Leno says other networks were offering to Conan, which networks?

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  • JordynJordyn Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Norm on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire was pretty amazing. One of the best parts was towards the end, where he's going for $500,000 and he's sitting there thinking through it, talking through and kind of out of nowhere just goes "Oh! Calcutta!, Final Answer" before Regis can make a worried face or talk him out of it. Regis looks so terrified, I think he had a small heart attack.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORgRYGCia3M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNNEpvvusO0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDkJCvUIhoY

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
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    Bogey wrote: »
    Interesting. We've been waiting to hear Leno's position on all this, his silence over the last week seemed to only fuel the media's vitriol. I was honestly surprised at how positive he was towards Conan.

    However, I still believe NBC's best step forward was to just cut Leno loose and buy him out instead of Conan. This current situation is only going to destroy both of them further. :(

    Yes, but network executives don't get where they are by being open minded and rational.

    They are stubborn, thick headed creatures.

    And besides, I doubt Conan would want the job at this point even if they offered it to him. The relationship between them is damaged and there will never be trust between them. You'd basically have to reorganize the NBC executive staff and axe all the heads who were involved with this in order to move on.

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  • BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Franko wrote: »
    I noticed the part were Leno says other networks were offering to Conan, which networks?



    I would imagine Fox
    Maybe CBS and ABC
    Remember this was a few years ago when Letterman wasn't doing so well and Conan was at 12:35

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  • and then regis talks him out of the right answer on the million dollar question

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I love Norm, haha, those were great clips.

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  • BusterK wrote: »
    I would imagine Fox
    Maybe CBS
    Remember this was a few years ago

    ABC, also, probably. They were sniffing around Jay Leno recently too, which may be part of the reason Kimmel hates him so much.

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  • FuzzFuzz Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I feel like Conan and Fallon do their part to mix up the game, but Leno just plays it safe. The worst part of all this is I may never actually see Tonight Show in person.

    Oh, and Bucketman, you're mixing up "were" and "where" as well as "they're," "there," and "their." I hope you don't take this the wrong way, just looking out :)

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  • BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    BusterK wrote: »
    I would imagine Fox
    Maybe CBS
    Remember this was a few years ago

    ABC, also, probably. They were sniffing around Jay Leno recently too, which may be part of the reason Kimmel hates him so much.

    Probably
    I was a bit suspicious of his
    "ethical nobility"

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  • Bogey wrote: »
    Interesting. We've been waiting to hear Leno's position on all this, his silence over the last week seemed to only fuel the media's vitriol. I was honestly surprised at how positive he was towards Conan.

    However, I still believe NBC's best step forward was to just cut Leno loose and buy him out instead of Conan. This current situation is only going to destroy both of them further. :(

    Yes, but network executives don't get where they are by being open minded and rational.

    They are stubborn, thick headed creatures.

    And besides, I doubt Conan would want the job at this point even if they offered it to him. The relationship between them is damaged and there will never be trust between them. You'd basically have to reorganize the NBC executive staff and axe all the heads who were involved with this in order to move on.

    Conan's people were still trying to talk NBC out of the whole thing even as they were bargaining for his release. It's honestly not in his best interests to stay, especially the way things are right now at NBC, but it's still the Tonight Show. I think if they were to come up to him right now and say he can keep the 11:35 slot and still do the Tonight Show, he'd probably accept.

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  • BusterK wrote: »
    BusterK wrote: »
    I would imagine Fox
    Maybe CBS
    Remember this was a few years ago

    ABC, also, probably. They were sniffing around Jay Leno recently too, which may be part of the reason Kimmel hates him so much.

    Probably
    I was a bit suspicious of his
    "ethical nobility"

    well, and the fact that kimmel is a comedian, and all comedians apparently hate jay leno

    the brilliant part of that all leno episode he did was how spot-on it was

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