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Health Care Reform Thread II: Death to America

scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
edited February 2010 in Social Entropy++
so you have probably heard that the republican party now holds a 41-seat majority in the senate. which means that it's time to get fired up and fight for reform and other things, right?

ha ha of course not.
I would advise that we try to move quickly to coalesce around those elements of the package that people agree on. We know that we need insurance reform, that the health insurance companies are taking advantage of people. We know that we have to have some form of cost containment because if we don't, then our budgets are going to blow up and we know that small businesses are going to need help so that they can provide health insurance to their families. Those are the core, some of the core elements of, to this bill.
this is code for "give up on the health care bill, try to take the good parts and pass them individually." which is in turn code for "give up on the health care bill, do nothing, lose 7 senate seats and 35 house seats in november." america!

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Scrive, they can force a filibuster. Right now it's "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "okay we won't."

    Instead it should be "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "Go ahead and do it." "... fuck... I wanted to get the weekend off..."

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
    edited January 2010
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  • DragonicityDragonicity Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Wouldn't it technically be a 41 seat minority in the senate?

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    palin will be president in 2012.

    I'm voting for Brown. Fox News keeps rejecting my campaign poster, though.

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  • celandinecelandine Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm starting to doubt my hometown boy's testicular fortitude.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    celandine wrote: »
    I'm starting to doubt my hometown boy's testicular fortitude.

    Who's that?

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  • MaceraMacera UGH GODDAMMIT STOP ENJOYING THINGSRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Wouldn't it technically be a 41 seat minority in the senate?

    Not the way Democrats do politics

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I reported this thread as 34 pages early thinking it was in D&D.

    I bet I'm being mocked derisively in the mod forum right now.

    So deserved.

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  • celandinecelandine Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    celandine wrote: »
    I'm starting to doubt my hometown boy's testicular fortitude.

    Who's that?

    Obama.
    (Actually, sorry, that was rude and flippant of me.)

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    somewhere in san francisco, a terrorist is planning a gay bomb on congress

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Wouldn't it technically be a 41 seat minority in the senate?

    technically, sure.
    Callius wrote: »
    Scrive, they can force a filibuster. Right now it's "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "okay we won't."

    Instead it should be "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "Go ahead and do it." "... fuck... I wanted to get the weekend off..."

    never going to happen and wouldnt make a difference anyway!

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    remember when the republicans didn't have a filibuster-proof majority but they still managed to do everything they wanted all the time

    why do the democrats suck so bad at strongarming

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    celandine wrote: »
    celandine wrote: »
    I'm starting to doubt my hometown boy's testicular fortitude.

    Who's that?

    Obama.
    (Actually, sorry, that was rude and flippant of me.)

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2010/01/one-year-obama-pays-the-price.html

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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    MKR wrote: »
    I reported this thread as 34 pages early thinking it was in D&D.

    I bet I'm being mocked derisively in the mod forum right now.

    So deserved.

    thats what you get for snitching :twisted:

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    stop snitchin

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited January 2010
    dear america

    welcome to the crushing realisation that the dude you voted into power is not superman

    lots of love

    post-blair britain

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bongi can we crash in your socialist utopia if things go south in the next decade or so?

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
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  • bongibongi regular
    edited January 2010
    MKR wrote: »
    bongi can we crash in your socialist utopia if things go south in the next decade or so?

    britain will be dead and gone long before america is

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  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    MKR wrote: »
    bongi can we crash in your socialist utopia if things go south in the next decade or so?

    Well if those public school tory wankers get in power (which is pretty damn likely) there will be no socialist utopia to crash in.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    remember when the republicans didn't have a filibuster-proof majority but they still managed to do everything they wanted all the time

    why do the democrats suck so bad at strongarming

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bongi wrote: »
    dear america

    welcome to the crushing realisation that the dude you voted into power is not superman

    lots of love

    post-blair britain

    Well I voted for President Superman
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  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bongi wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    bongi can we crash in your socialist utopia if things go south in the next decade or so?

    britain will be dead and gone long before america is

    we can hope, at least

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  • 101101 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This fillbuster thing sounds ridiculously stupid

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  • CalliusCallius Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    technically, sure.



    never going to happen and wouldnt make a difference anyway!
    Why do you not think it would make a difference? They would force the republicans to expend all their resources filibustering. Repeatedly.

    You keep that up and people will start getting pissed that nothing is getting done.

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
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  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Callius wrote: »
    Scrive, they can force a filibuster. Right now it's "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "okay we won't."

    Instead it should be "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "Go ahead and do it." "... fuck... I wanted to get the weekend off..."

    In current practice, Senate Rule 22 permits filibusters in which actual continuous floor speeches are not required.

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  • DragonicityDragonicity Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fuckers just got lazy.

    What ever happened to the good ol' days of talking for 8 hours non-stop to pull a filibuster.

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Hmm

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  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fuckers just got lazy.

    What ever happened to the good ol' days of talking for 8 hours non-stop to pull a filibuster.

    Callius wrote: »
    "... fuck... I wanted to get the weekend off..."

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  • big lbig l Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    JoeUser wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »
    dear america

    welcome to the crushing realisation that the dude you voted into power is not superman

    lots of love

    post-blair britain

    Well I voted for President Superman
    presap8.jpg

    Is that Superman black or just really tan?

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    big l wrote: »
    Is that Superman black or just really tan?

    That's a black Superman from an alternate universe.

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    101 wrote: »
    This fillbuster thing sounds ridiculously stupid

    It's not like we invented it.

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    palin will be president in 2012.

    I'm voting for Brown. Fox News keeps rejecting my campaign poster, though.

    What can Brown do for you?

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Goin' down to Brown Town.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Callius wrote: »
    technically, sure.



    never going to happen and wouldnt make a difference anyway!
    Why do you not think it would make a difference? They would force the republicans to expend all their resources filibustering. Repeatedly.

    You keep that up and people will start getting pissed that nothing is getting done.

    I think, at most, they would be preaching to the choir.

    There are a number of people already upset that nothing is getting done.

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  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Big Brown

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  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Narbus wrote: »
    Callius wrote: »
    Scrive, they can force a filibuster. Right now it's "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "okay we won't."

    Instead it should be "Hey, you guys can't do that or we'll filibuster." "Go ahead and do it." "... fuck... I wanted to get the weekend off..."

    In current practice, Senate Rule 22 permits filibusters in which actual continuous floor speeches are not required.

    i'm pretty sure this is at the choice of the majority leader though

    so yeah democrats could force them to chill on the floor for a while

    but then the onus would really be on them since they'd have to retain a majority of senators on the floor at all times to keep the bill from being killed outright.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    God I wish Superman was the president that would rule

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    wait is

    brown ignites revolution

    the new motto of the GOP

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