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IoloIolo i not LRegistered User regular
edited April 2010 in Games and Technology
3rd DLC -- The Secret Armory of General Knoxx
Feb 23 for XBox, Feb 25 for PS3/PC
* No activation limit/SecuROM for Steam version!
$10 for all

Fuckawesome Trailer

Big new areas (larger than first two DLC combined) designed for postgame characters:
  • New bad guys - Midgets riding skags, Stidery things, Jetpack Lancers, Mechs, Dual-katana wielding she-ninjas, etc.
  • New vehicles, including the Lance APC that can hold all 4 players
  • Level cap goes up from 50 to 61
  • New "pearlescent" rarity of weapons
  • No more duped weapons (!) and other fixes (Patch notes for XBox, PS3, and PC)
  • More Scooter, more Moxxi, more achievements, more, more, more!
Previews/pics/videos at:

Dust off your level 50's!

BONUS: MasterOfPupets' Guide to Siren Soloing Crawmerax
Spoiler:

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And now, standing on the shoulders of giants, Borderlands thread nine!
(eight seven six five four three two one)

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People like the Borderlands

So what is this game?

It's a shooter with light RPG elements and a heavy emphasis on loot gathering (a la Diablo/Titan Quest/WoW, but GUNS!) in a distinctive art style set in a sci fi Mad Maxy/Firefly-y backwater planet.

The single-player is terrific, but the game really shines in co-op with up to 3 other players. It is an ambitious new IP from developer Gearbox and has some real flaws and bone-headed design decisions. If shooting and looting is your cup of tea, though, there is WAAAAY more to like than to dislike.

This trailer really captures the feel of the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pQW6RLceVE

This preview is pretty much perfect in terms of what you can expect:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-borderlands/56123

And this is how I feel when I play the game:
Spoiler:

So there are DLC. How are they?:

General forum consensus on the DLC's seems to be:

Zombie Island:
PRO: Fun, good sized new areas to explore with entertaining new main and side quests, arguably better story than main game, more stuff to do for your characters esp. if Playthrough 2 is not your bag, zombie baddies are generally interesting
CON: Doesn't increase level cap, no one is shooting at you, zombies are dark against dark background, no fast travel or vehicles (lots of running), spitter zombies are a bit bullshit and penalize melee builds
OVERALL: Most folks seem to like it

Underdome:
PRO: Hardcore, Only place to run your so-called badass characters against a crucible of wave after wave of attackers, Moxxi (the character) is awesome - very funny, Gun bank & Claptrap w/ monocle, two extra skill points available (one for each playthrough)
CON: Hard. Core. No experience, no loot drops (except for a few unremarkable drops from Moxxi after each five waves), all-or-nothing 25 or 100 round events - no pausing, no saving, no incremental progress, no Spiderants (probably a PRO for some)
OVERALL: Some want exactly this, for most it was just too much effort for not enough reward.

Knoxx
PRO: Big, interesting new enemies, good times with favorite characters, new characters and story, funny, Level cap increased to 61, great loot after finishing main story, farmable superboss, new vehicles, new superrare weapon rarity
CON: Very hard, especially the first few encounters. No fast travel - so lots and lots of driving (not great for just playing 20 min)
OVERALL: Some folks are put off by the difficulty or all the driving. Most seem to enjoy it and some (including me) think it's handily the best of the 3 DLC

DLC 2 -- Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot:

The new adventure on Pandora is called Mad Moxxi's Underdome Riot and has three new Riot Arenas. Basically Horde/Firefight in Pandora. Good co-op fun, although be advised no experience for killing baddies (there is experience for completing challenges) and no loot drops except as prizes underneath Moxxi's perch.

Also there's an item bank staffed by a dapper claptrap in a monocle and tophat.

Available now on Xbox Live for 800 Microsoft points, PS3 for $9,99, and PC for $9.99. N.b. PC version has the same 5 activation limit SecuROM as Zombie Island.

Trailer & gameplay videos:
Spoiler:

DLC 1 -- The Zombie Island of Dr. Ned:

Zombie killing gameplay in a new area about the size of the Arid Badlands. Consensus seems to be that its good fun - nice to have a new area to shoot and some very funny dialogue - with some quibbles (dark zombies on dark backgrounds, no fast travel, braaaaaains quest should start earlier).

Available for all platforms. 5 new achievements for Xbox & PS3. Be advised that the Steam version inexplicably has SecuROM 5 machine activation limit.

Trailer and screens:

But the best reason to get the DLC? Zombies that carry gunchests chained to their backs!

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Helpful Advice for New Players
  • The accuracy stat on weapons is surprisingly important. Accuracy is the percentage change for your shot to go down the center of the targetting reticule. So most starter shotguns, for example, w/ accuracy stats like 11, won't hit anything more than 10 feet away. Some weapons may feel 'loose' until you find a different gun or up your proficiency.
  • Inventory space is your most precious commodity out of the gate. Make hard decisions and sell most stuff you find that you aren't using. (This gets easier as you unlock your 3rd and 4th active weapon slot.) Some folks who hoard early find they have to spend all their money just to buy more ammo. If you sell almost all the stuff you find, you won't have this problem after the first few levels.
  • Contrary to standard RPG experience, you probably don't want to carry medkits around with you. There is no quick button for them, they heal over time, they are expensive, and they take up precious inventory space. Usually enough medkits will drop when you are fighting and pretty soon all characters have a low level skill that lets them either run away or get health or both.
  • When you can afford it, upgrade your ammo capacity for the 1-2 gun types you use most. Makes a big difference. You do this from the ammo kiosks by buying the ammo type SDU (Storage Deck Upgrade) upgrade.
  • Re-speccing is cheap and available at any of the New-U stations scattered throughout Pandora. Definitely play with builds once you get 10+ skill points to mess around with.
  • The kiosks rotate inventory every twenty minutes. Check often. It's not uncommon to find something really great. My first orange weapon ever came from a kiosk.
  • Level matters a lot in this game. If you face a baddie more than a couple levels above yours, your shots will do as much damage as spitballs. There's one storyline encounter in particular that will kick your ass if you go straight for it. If you find yourself getting completely trounced, do a couple of side missions. This is much less of a problem in general after you unlock vehicles.
  • When you first get a vehicle, read the pop-up, esp. how to lock on the turret. (Two of the three dumbest encounters of the game are bypassed quickly with turret lock on.)
  • If you do all the side missions you will pretty quickly be somewhat overleveled for the storyline missions (after the first 2-3 bosses). If you are finding the game to be too easy, ease up on the side missions (and/or try using some different weapons.)
  • There are a bunch of "challenges," basically in-game achievements, you can get XP for. Melee X guys or Melt Y dudes w/ corrosive damage, that sort of thing. Access the list and view your progress in a subscreen off your quests screen.
  • When you play co-op, have the host log out last to minimize chances of lost data.
  • In almost all circumstances, the machine gun car is better than the rocket car.
  • Skags burn nicely.

Tips w/ Very Minor Spoilers
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FAQ's
  • Yes, you can respec your skill tree for a nominal fee. You go to a New-U station, which are pretty much everywhere (as soon as you enter a new area, you're next to one) and you can do it there for a certain percent of your wealth.
  • Where is the last piece?! For find-the-pieces quests, your quest marker only points you to the general area. If you can't find the last piece, use the treasure marker on your HUD instead of the quest marker.
  • You can play with multiples of the same class. Four Bricks? No problem.
  • Class mods require at least one skill point in whatever they are buffing. No points in Silent Resolve? No buff from the mod.
  • Class mods CAN exceed the normal five point limit of skills.
  • You can play with people of a higher or lower level than yourself, you'll get mad XP if you're the lower level player. Be advised there's a bug where you may get all their quests, which is confusing but shouldn't actually break anything.
  • Artifacts are consumed, not equipped. Go to your skill tree, and click the box to the left of your main class skill. You'll get a list of every artifact you've used. Pick whatever is best for the situation!
  • You do get to upgrade you inventory space eventually, quite considerably.
  • Getting a second car w/ 3-4 players is not intuitive. There's a tab in the vehicle spawn stations (use the shoulder button or mouse to access) for a second vehicle. That said, sometimes it's fun to just push a friend around Pandora with the front of your car.
  • Make no mistake, Gearbox made this an AWESOME single player game first and then a FUCKAWESOME multiplayer game second.


A few helpful links (Spoilers Ahoy!)
Gearbox Forums (esp. known issues and fun screenshot thread)
Borderlands Wiki
Claptraps Guide
Very Handy Map


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The Vault Hunters!
Spoiler:

Roland
Roland is a former soldier of the Crimson Lance, a sort of highly trained private military that disregards law and order. A decade-old vendetta is rekindled when Roland learns that the leader of the Brigadiers has a suspiciously similar name to a man he has sworn to kill. Some of Roland's abilities are meant to supplement and support the party. His Leadership skill can boost the party's experience gains, while his Medical skill will increase health regeneration, and Support will increase weapon damage or regenerate ammunition for the party, Roland is a soldier class and the only class that doesn't have to worry about ammo as a special backpack produces an infinite supply.

Lilith
Once a human, Lilith at one point was turned into a siren. One of only six Sirens, they are a group of people with unbelievable powers, but no way to control them. She comes to Pandora in search of another Siren, in an effort to find out more about herself. Lilith is essentially the mage of the group, using her Siren powers to support the group and attack the enemy. Some of her powers include the ability to increase the group's rate of fire, as well as the power to create temporal bubbles, which she can manipulate to slow down enemies and hostile projectiles or speed up allies.

Mordecai
Mordecai came to Pandora in search of a man from his past named Demosthenes. Upon learning that Demosthenes has died, Mordecai sets off to learn how he died and what he was carrying. Mordecai's play style is that of a lone ranger, preferring to snipe enemies from afar. Some of his special abilities can augment the party's damage from headshots or give accuracy boosts and is a hunter class. Later in the game, he will befriend a bird-like creature named Bloodwing that will assist in combat.

Brick
A massive specimen of a man who likes to use his fists to smash the enemy above all else. He wears a necklace adorned with the paw of his beloved deceased dog. He fills in the tank niche and can take quite a beating as well having the ability to chug berserker-state inducing pills for short bursts of power.


Screenshots!
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Super Useful PC Tweaks & Tips!
Updated 11/18
Spoiler:


PC Patch 1.01 out 11/16/09
Spoiler:
Wait, I got the patch and now I have a bunch of stupid horizontal shadows running across the screen?
Spoiler:

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Skill Trees, Mother Fuckers!

BRICK
LILITH
MORDECAI
ROLAND


Elemental Damage, Weapons, and You!

Incendiary elemental property adds the effect of fire to weapons, mods, shields and some enemies. It is most effective against unshielded, flesh enemies, such as Bruisers and Skags. Incendiary weapons bullet burst into flames when they impact. When a fire element triggers, the enemy is lit on fire, dealing damage over time. If the enemy dies due to fire damage, their corpse will burn away.

Corrosive weapons cause splashes of acid to corrode at enemies. Corrosive weapons are effective against heavily armored enemies, like Skags or Spiderants. When a corrosive weapon's effect triggers, the enemy will start to take damage over time. The damage is less than that of a fire weapon of the same level, but the corrosive damage also makes the enemy more vulnerable to all damage while it is in effect. Enemies that die to corrosive damage will melt away.

Shock weapons crackle with electricity and are very effective against shields, making them useful against shielded bandits and alien guardians. Shock bullets will crack with electricity when they impact. When a shock weapon's effect triggers, high damage is dealt to the enemy's shield and they take damage over time. If an enemy dies to shock damage, their face burns away and reveals their skull.

Explosive weapons' bullets explode when they impact, making them very effective against groups of lesser enemies. The explosions deal splash damage to nearby enemies when the effect triggers. Enemies that die to an explosive weapon blow into pieces.

Levels of Effect: The level of elemental effect on your gun effects two things:

1. How likely an element effect is to occur

2. How likely a more powerful element effect is to occur

So higher element level means there is more potential for you to score elemental attacks and more potential for them to be largely damaging.

Now on to the extremely interesting part, how each weapon scores and elemental hit:

Snipers: By far one of the most interesting, Snipers actually charge their element between shots. So the longer between your shots, the higher the chance is of a high elemental effect.

Revolvers: Slightly interesting as well, with a Revolver it's just a roll of the dice. Almost every shot will have element to it, but most times it will be a low level. Keep shooting and you're likely to hit the jackpot and score a high element burst.

SMG/Repeater Pistol: Each bullet has a chance to inflict the gun's max element effect.

Combat Rifle/Machine Pistol: The first few shots of a burst will have higher chances to inflict a high level element effect.

Shotgun: Another gamble with elemental damage but a bit different from the Revolver. With Shotguns it's: all pellets have an elemental effect or none of the pellets have an elemental effect.

Rocket Launcher: Always scores a high rank elemental effect.

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Class Mods! A Path To A Better You!
Courtesy of Iolo

Eventually you'll find class mods which can be equipped in your inventory (under your shield and grenade mod). Class mods can add points to skills in your skill tree. Mods can also affect other skills, like a soldier mod that gives the whole team ammo regen or a siren mod that increases SMG damage. There are 5-6 types of mods for each class, each with a name (like Siren's Plaguebringer, Mercenary, Firefly, etc.) and each coming in various strengths and configurations. Mods also tend to be worth more money than low level guns and grenade mods you'll find in the same area, so even mods for other classes may be worth making space for (when solo) to sell.


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  • IoloIolo i not L Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    NEW HAVEN CHEST RUN;
    Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and WOOOOOOOO GUNS
    Note: This six chest run was nerfed a bit in the Feb. patch.
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    Spoiler:


    Rarity! From Bestest to Worstest!

    Pearl
    Dark Orange
    Orange
    Yellow
    Purple
    Blue
    Green
    White

    Items in your inventory are sorted by rarity. With your most rarest items at the top of the list. So double check that "white" weapon that is listed above your Orange weapon, it's more than likely a Pearl.


    Understanding Gun Flavor Text!

    Found in the stats boxes of guns are sometimes cryptic or humorous messages. These lines indicate a certain effect on the gun. Several decoded messages are as follows:
    Spoiler:

    Manufacturers! aka: Brand Loyalty!

    Atlas - All around good accuracy, fire rate, power, and low recoil for the level of the weapon. Rare at lower levels.
    Dahl - These weapons will most likely have less recoil than most guns.
    Eridians - Alien weaponry, generally high damage, unlimited ammunition.
    Hyperion - These weapons feature long range scopes and high accuracy.
    Jakobs - These weapons will typically have high damage, even without additional effects.
    Maliwan - Weapons made by this corporation will always do elemental damage.
    S&S Munitions - This company makes guns with extended magazines.
    Tediore - This company makes guns that are lightweight and will reload faster.
    Torgue - Typicaly combine good damage, low recoil, and high fire rate.
    Vladof - Fires quicker than most other average guns.

    Kasanagi's Intro to Weapon Modding & Other Tales(Updated 11/20)
    Spoiler:

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    PC version crashing?
    I have a useful tip you can add possibly. If you are experiencing crashes that cause your pc to stop responding every half hour, hour or two hours, downclocking your graphics card just a bit apparently does the trick. My OC'ed 4890 was apparently just too damn fast for this game to handle. Funny thing is it now runs even better than before.

    It's a big blue watery road
    XBox secret achievement spoiler
    Spoiler:

    Did you know this is what Borderlands looked like before the awesome redesign?
    Spoiler:

    Ain't No Rest For The Wicked:
    Awesome-tastic Videos!

    ComicCon 2009 trailer set to "No Heaven" by DJ Champion

    Borderlands is for REAL GAMERS

    Borderlands: Claptrap Web Series ep. 1

    Borderlands: Claptrap Web Series ep. 2

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    When posting in this thread or playing online with PAers remember the words of Jesus:
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  • IoloIolo i not L Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    STEAM Group, Bitches!
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    Join Steam group chat to drum up people for a game.

    Gamespy IDs! What, Like You're So Special?
    I will probably regret this, but if you want to be added to the list PM me. Forum name then GSID is the format.

    IceBurner = Jezzgiott
    rakuencallisto = rakuencallisto
    Forar = ForarW
    Darkchampion3d = PANuclearmonkee
    addsbadgers = addsbadgers
    tofu = killertorfu
    Lawndart = Lawndart
    Raoulduke20/SarahPalin = BongRips2012
    DiannaoChong = DiannaoChong
    DeMoN = Toxic_Cizzle
    MonkeyConQueso = Aubvry
    mojojoeo = xMojoJoeOx
    Scribemite = Discomite
    Senshi = Senshibot
    Sunstrand = XxSunstrandxX
    Darmak = darmakx99
    fsmith1 = fsmith1
    Goose! = g0oseyourself
    Zetx = zet_ecks
    Cobalt60 = CobaltSixty
    Iolo = iolonotlolo
    GoodkingjayIII = goodkingjayiii
    Syphonblue = syphonblue
    Edomatic = Jack&Jonsey
    harvest = CrimsonHarvest
    Izanagi-Okami = BulbasaurPA
    Grape Ape = InauguralGomez
    AustinP0027 = AustinP0027
    wavecutter = wavecutter
    Zerocow = PA_Zerocow
    revcom = melian dialogue
    darunia106 = darunia106
    Khavall = Khavall
    SanderJK = SanderJK
    Hawk = SamuraiHawk
    intelnavi = Commanderintelnavi
    Antithesis = Morinaei
    John Zoidberg = PA_Zoidberg
    MagicPrime = MagicPrime
    cwapfobrains = cwapfobrains
    RisenPhoenix = KrylonBlack
    TheBana = thebana
    Kendrik = Kendrik01
    Toastie Toast = ToastieToast
    PikaPuff = PikaPuff
    Zen Vulgarity = ZenVulgarity
    Racist Joke = LeutGreen
    Jakorian = jakorian
    zhen_rogue = zhen_rogue
    cogell = cogell
    bushidogamer = bushidogamer
    SimpsonsParadox = SimpsonsParadox
    Pony = Mean_Pony
    krizz02 = krizz02
    Mahnmut = jericho89
    Kainy = Kain3k
    hotlunch = BorderIFBS
    dumbmanex = dumbmanex
    Herkimer = Herkimer1
    MrVyngaard = TheClockmaker
    The Dude With Herpes = Galedrid
    Bullio = Bullio_Marf


    Extra!
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    So, apparently you can use Gamespy Comrade with Borderlands. It's like Steam-ish, with a friends list and everything.

    Get it here: http://comrade.gamespy.com

    Everyone should get it.

    Edit: I'm not sure if you can jump into a friend's game, but at least you can add people easily and see who is online and playing without having to launch the game.


    XBOX 360 MetaTags For Cool Dudes!
    (simply add the tag and view the friends list of the tag, only PA'ers have this tag added so you'll only play with PA'ers. Smart, yes?

    PA Borderwangs (full)
    PA Wanglands (MIA)

    Until we get an active metatag again, folks who want to play General Knoxx can request in the thread to be listed here. Format is "PAName = XBoxName" and you'd better use the yellow or else (I might miss you).

    Iolo = MobiusBacon
    boredatwork = JaqSaq
    Preacher = JudasDubois (PST 6-10ish)
    Jack Eddy = jeddylee
    deowolf = deowolf
    Nick T = Convic Nic
    Nickle= NickleDL
    trednis= Rudy the Tall
    Grimthwacker = DeceasedSpycrab
    Tridus1x = Tridus1x
    Heffling = Alpha_Night

    PSN Name-O'S!
    PM me if you want in on the list. Alright, it's PA forum names first and the PSN names. You better get the reference! *shakes fist*

    Clayburn as Caerus
    Doctor Fink as Doctor_Fink
    John Zoidberg as Stiff_Ninja
    Antihippy as Antiwhippy
    Flo as mechaflo
    Lord_Asmodeus as Lord_Asmodeu
    DasUberEdward as EdwardTheThird
    -Loki- as qwertybig
    Shorn Scrotum Man as sojakfa
    Threepio as rogerwilco
    stlobus as lobus
    KidDynamite as NinjaForHire
    wenchkilla as dragoniemx
    GoodOmens as IsotopeX
    Mr Pink as Euphanism
    Descendant X as DescendantX
    ElKaboom as himself
    Bullfrogof7272 as himself
    Johannen as himself
    maraxus94 as himself
    Ah_Pook as himself
    fmz65 as himself
    kazanma as himself
    Spicy_Rev as Spicy_RevofDC
    CoJoeTheLawyer as CoJoe
    spiderpat01 as el_murceilago
    Esh as LeLapinNoir
    phekno as phekno
    Sekxtion as Sekxtion

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  • StigmaStigma Registered User
    edited January 2010
    WOO! Game of the fucking year!

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh SILLY GOOSE, I am drooling over that Volcano Sniper in the top of the OP.

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  • IoloIolo i not L Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Oh SILLY GOOSE, I am drooling over that Volcano Sniper in the top of the OP.

    Kainy posted that at the end of the last thread.

    Do you know what the other gun in that same chest is?
    Spoiler:

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  • BlitzAce1981BlitzAce1981 Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So, we got two extra backpack SDU's from the first DLC, 2 skill points and a storage bank of up to 42 slots with the second, and I'd guess either 10 or 20 extra levels of XP (I wonder if weapon proficiencies will get a higher cap too?) when the third comes out. Here's hoping they'll make a fourth where the main upgrade is being able to strip down two guns and take the best parts from each to make a new, improved gun. In other words, legit modding.

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Iolo wrote: »
    Oh SILLY GOOSE, I am drooling over that Volcano Sniper in the top of the OP.

    Kainy posted that at the end of the last thread.

    Do you know what the other gun in that same chest is?
    Spoiler:

    *collapses, froths at mouth*

    That's silly goosin' ridiculous.

    Spoiler:
  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I have a feeling (and hope) that a Borderlands 2 would be better in every way over Borderlands 1. They seem to be using DLC as a way to fine tune what works in Borderlands so they will have a better understanding of what to do with Borderlands 2. I approve of this.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Iolo wrote: »
    Oh SILLY GOOSE, I am drooling over that Volcano Sniper in the top of the OP.

    Kainy posted that at the end of the last thread.

    Do you know what the other gun in that same chest is?
    Spoiler:
    This exact drop happened to me on my Brick. A pair of Volcanos. Mine were nearly identical, same stats with only the stocks being different.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. On Hiatus!

    Any gamers in the Danville, PA area? PM me if you're interested in some tabletop gaming.
  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So I wonder when they will start giving out more details about the new dlc.

  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Iolo wrote: »
    Oh SILLY GOOSE, I am drooling over that Volcano Sniper in the top of the OP.

    Kainy posted that at the end of the last thread.

    Do you know what the other gun in that same chest is?
    Spoiler:

    *collapses, froths at mouth*

    That's silly goosin' ridiculous.

    I have that same one

  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So I wonder when they will start giving out more details about the new dlc.

    Heh, probably when they figure out what the DLC will even be. :P

    I do not think Gearbox anticipated how crazy popular their game would be. I think they had the first DLC all ready to go before(or around) release and probably a good portion of the second one ready just in case. Now though? Now I think they actually need to build DLC from scratch. :)

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    MrDelish wrote: »
    Iolo wrote: »
    Oh SILLY GOOSE, I am drooling over that Volcano Sniper in the top of the OP.

    Kainy posted that at the end of the last thread.

    Do you know what the other gun in that same chest is?
    Spoiler:

    *collapses, froths at mouth*

    That's silly goosin' ridiculous.

    I have that same one
    Volcano Snipers are second only to the acid cruxes in terms of number I've found. I've found, used and eventually sold literally dozens of them.

    And yet I've never seen a manticore revolver or a sniper shotgun.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. On Hiatus!

    Any gamers in the Danville, PA area? PM me if you're interested in some tabletop gaming.
  • IoloIolo i not L Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Axen wrote: »
    So I wonder when they will start giving out more details about the new dlc.

    Heh, probably when they figure out what the DLC will even be. :P

    I do not think Gearbox anticipated how crazy popular their game would be. I think they had the first DLC all ready to go before(or around) release and probably a good portion of the second one ready just in case. Now though? Now I think they actually need to build DLC from scratch. :)

    Well, we know they are well under way. Biggest DLC yet and raised level cap? Yes please!
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Volcano Snipers are second only to the acid cruxes in terms of number I've found. I've found, used and eventually sold literally dozens of them.

    And yet I've never seen a manticore revolver or a sniper shotgun.

    I know what you mean. I'm a Hellfire finding machine (!), but no Chimera.

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  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    MrDelish wrote: »
    Iolo wrote: »
    Oh SILLY GOOSE, I am drooling over that Volcano Sniper in the top of the OP.

    Kainy posted that at the end of the last thread.

    Do you know what the other gun in that same chest is?
    Spoiler:

    *collapses, froths at mouth*

    That's silly goosin' ridiculous.

    I have that same one
    Volcano Snipers are second only to the acid cruxes in terms of number I've found. I've found, used and eventually sold literally dozens of them.

    And yet I've never seen a manticore revolver or a sniper shotgun.

    Manticore? You mean the Chimera? Ive only found two in my whole time playing. Its an awesome gun though , same with the Skullsmasher ( the sniper shotgun). The one gun that I want that i've never been able to find is the Striker .

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'm going to be picking up the expansions for the box soon so if anyone wants a rusty level 50 soldier to co-op with send Judasdubois a friend request and I'll blow some stuff up with you silly geese.

    I actually read a nice post mortem with the borderlands team on g4 (I know I was suprised too there was something to read on g4). It was funny they said exactly what I said while playing in that they wanted the solo game to be fun outside of co-op so people can do either one.

  • slessmanslessman __BANNED USERS
    edited January 2010
    Cool Borderlands post. I got the distinct pleasure of watching my cousin play the game. I love the way that it looks. The game is unique and addicting.

  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Any 360 players with low level characters? I wanna play some co-op

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  • mr-razzcocksmr-razzcocks Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So, after playing this a while on 360, I borrowed my friends PC copy, and despite my machine not even being able to play Source Engine games properly, Borderlands runs smooth as butter. It looks a bit rough, but the game itself runs perfectly. Weird.

  • IdolNinjaIdolNinja Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Had an absolutely crazy glitchy game with curly haired boy and SoulGate tonight. Looking forward to seeing the screenshots that curly took in game of some of the madness that he's going to post in the thread. :D

    Here's one I took when we somehow accidentally spawned 3 cars:
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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    boy, what a game!

    idol and soul pose in front of the famous "Twin Runners" art installation
    Spoiler:

    after we spawned 3 cars (!!!) we had a lot of fun driving them around:
    Spoiler:

    then we lost one, and spent some time getting the other two over the walls into fyrestone....and beyond.

    In a normal world, roads don't run straight into a cliff face or offer a glimpse into the abyss.

    Meth: Not Even Once.
    Spoiler:

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  • IdolNinjaIdolNinja Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Don't forget about the demonic possessed Claptrap that spawned outside of town and was making those horrible buzzing noises after we fell through the world and respawned into some weird alternate Pandora.

  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    IdolNinja wrote: »
    Don't forget about the demonic possessed Claptrap that spawned outside of town and was making those horrible buzzing noises after we fell through the world and respawned into some weird alternate Pandora.

    oh maaaan

    we figured out the whole conspiracy behind the zombie island of dr. ned!

    see, since falling through the world, we returned to find claptrap awaiting new arrivals. he was oblivious to our presence. we deduced that we had gone to an earlier period in the game, and if we waited long enough, we'd eventually see our current selves get off the bus and receive their orientation. we would then warn them about the challenges ahead, before heading Back to the Future. this got us thinking about dr. ned: Everyone knows that your twin from an alternate universe has a mustache/goatee and is EVIL!

    we figure dr. zed fell through the world, and the rift in time brought across his evil alternate universe counterpart, dr. ned! it all makes sense! :O

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro Frame Runner Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So are Pearl weapons a real thing? What are they like?

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So are Pearl weapons a real thing? What are they like?

    white guns with red text. they're no better or worse than any orange, which is really what they're supposed to be.

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  • KainyKainy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    So are Pearl weapons a real thing? What are they like?

    white guns with red text. they're no better or worse than any orange, which is really what they're supposed to be.

    For instance that bitch violator modded weapon in the OP would be considered a pearl weapon. If you read the "doctoral dissertation" link in the OP it has a section on pearl weapons. They're basically just a bug in how the game handles rarity.

    I'm touched that my double volcano chest found a place in the OP <3

    IcyLiquid wrote: »
    There's anti-fuckery code in there now :) Sorry :)
  • SoulGateSoulGate Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    IdolNinja wrote: »
    Don't forget about the demonic possessed Claptrap that spawned outside of town and was making those horrible buzzing noises after we fell through the world and respawned into some weird alternate Pandora.

    oh maaaan

    we figured out the whole conspiracy behind the zombie island of dr. ned!

    see, since falling through the world, we returned to find claptrap awaiting new arrivals. he was oblivious to our presence. we deduced that we had gone to an earlier period in the game, and if we waited long enough, we'd eventually see our current selves get off the bus and receive their orientation. we would then warn them about the challenges ahead, before heading Back to the Future. this got us thinking about dr. ned: Everyone knows that your twin from an alternate universe has a mustache/goatee and is EVIL!

    we figure dr. zed fell through the world, and the rift in time brought across his evil alternate universe counterpart, dr. ned! it all makes sense! :O

    That thing was freaking me out. It'd do the no animation pose, and let out this horrible buzz that sounded like a broke spring going off. It'd go through every animation a claptrap does too, like the button "do de do de do do" thing, dance, jump around, and everything. What made it even more surreal was that the claptrap usually next the bounty board was missing, proving we really did travel back in time!

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  • IoloIolo i not L Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    SoulGate wrote: »
    IdolNinja wrote: »
    Don't forget about the demonic possessed Claptrap that spawned outside of town and was making those horrible buzzing noises after we fell through the world and respawned into some weird alternate Pandora.

    oh maaaan

    we figured out the whole conspiracy behind the zombie island of dr. ned!

    see, since falling through the world, we returned to find claptrap awaiting new arrivals. he was oblivious to our presence. we deduced that we had gone to an earlier period in the game, and if we waited long enough, we'd eventually see our current selves get off the bus and receive their orientation. we would then warn them about the challenges ahead, before heading Back to the Future. this got us thinking about dr. ned: Everyone knows that your twin from an alternate universe has a mustache/goatee and is EVIL!

    we figure dr. zed fell through the world, and the rift in time brought across his evil alternate universe counterpart, dr. ned! it all makes sense! :O

    That thing was freaking me out. It'd do the no animation pose, and let out this horrible buzz that sounded like a broke spring going off. It'd go through every animation a claptrap does too, like the button "do de do de do do" thing, dance, jump around, and everything. What made it even more surreal was that the claptrap usually next the bounty board was missing, proving we really did travel back in time!

    I love this theory. Maybe in the next DLC we get to have ourselves as a lower level sidekicks after we get off the bus!

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Does that Jacobs machine not stay on after you fix it, or is that just a glitch for me?

    I fixed it, it stayed on until I zoned, I came back and it was dead again.

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  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Does that Jacobs machine not stay on after you fix it, or is that just a glitch for me?

    I fixed it, it stayed on until I zoned, I came back and it was dead again.
    Yup it always turns off. I dont know why they even put it there if it was only going to let you buy stuff once. The Jacobs claptrap on the other hand is awesome.

  • IoloIolo i not L Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It's a glitch. It's been on GB's "Known Issues" list since 12/8, but sadly still remains only "under investigation."

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  • NerdtendoNerdtendo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Question, this "WillowEngine.ini" file... I'm not seeing it... But I have a "DefaultEngine.ini" file. Does copying the default one and renaming it override the default?

    Also, gamespy tag, jswaller.

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  • KainyKainy Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Nerdtendo wrote: »
    Question, this "WillowEngine.ini" file... I'm not seeing it... But I have a "DefaultEngine.ini" file. Does copying the default one and renaming it override the default?

    Also, gamespy tag, jswaller.

    Make sure you're not looking in the actual install directory, but the My Games directory.

    For XP that's My Documents\My Games\Borderlands\WillowGame\ConfigWillowEngine.ini

    Silly goose, thinking that a game would install vital game files to only the directory he picked. Cool kid games these days feel the need to split vital game files into 2, maybe even 3 nearly identical directory structures in wildly different places! :P

    IcyLiquid wrote: »
    There's anti-fuckery code in there now :) Sorry :)
  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Space is the Place Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Question: what file was it you needed to rename to get rid of the unskippable opening logo cinematics?

    I just beat my first playthrough, thoughts:
    Spoiler:

    Dachish: I got tripped up by those waypoints too. It turns out they aren't broken, they just aren't supposed to show you where specific parts are. You're supposed to have to hunt around for them yourself a little bit.

  • NerdtendoNerdtendo Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    dachish wrote: »
    So I've had this for a while but only recently really started it. Are the "collect gun pieces" quests broken? I've had 3 so far and every one of them seems to have a broken waypoint. I get to the location, I see usually 3 pieces right in a row, and then I can never find the fourth, and the waypoint always leads me to a place that has nothing. Some of the areas have a lot of high and low points but I've searched them over and over. 2 of the places were pretty much flat areas with nowhere they could hide but on a roof, which I checked.
    The first time I had this problem, I was able to leave the area and come back and the waypoint had moved to another location, which was accurate. Didn't work the other times.

    Do you have to pick the pieces up in order or the waypoints go crazy?

    The waypoint directs you to the general area of the items, but doesn't pinpoint the locations for you. You have to hunt around the area for them.

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  • IoloIolo i not L Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Nerdtendo wrote: »
    dachish wrote: »
    So I've had this for a while but only recently really started it. Are the "collect gun pieces" quests broken? I've had 3 so far and every one of them seems to have a broken waypoint. I get to the location, I see usually 3 pieces right in a row, and then I can never find the fourth, and the waypoint always leads me to a place that has nothing. Some of the areas have a lot of high and low points but I've searched them over and over. 2 of the places were pretty much flat areas with nowhere they could hide but on a roof, which I checked.
    The first time I had this problem, I was able to leave the area and come back and the waypoint had moved to another location, which was accurate. Didn't work the other times.

    Do you have to pick the pieces up in order or the waypoints go crazy?

    The waypoint directs you to the general area of the items, but doesn't pinpoint the locations for you. You have to hunt around the area for them.

    Once you get to the area shown by the quest marker, use the treasure marker (little sack of cash) instead. That will help.

    Alternatively (real spoiler)...
    Spoiler:

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Space is the Place Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Iolo wrote: »
    Nerdtendo wrote: »
    dachish wrote: »
    So I've had this for a while but only recently really started it. Are the "collect gun pieces" quests broken? I've had 3 so far and every one of them seems to have a broken waypoint. I get to the location, I see usually 3 pieces right in a row, and then I can never find the fourth, and the waypoint always leads me to a place that has nothing. Some of the areas have a lot of high and low points but I've searched them over and over. 2 of the places were pretty much flat areas with nowhere they could hide but on a roof, which I checked.
    The first time I had this problem, I was able to leave the area and come back and the waypoint had moved to another location, which was accurate. Didn't work the other times.

    Do you have to pick the pieces up in order or the waypoints go crazy?

    The waypoint directs you to the general area of the items, but doesn't pinpoint the locations for you. You have to hunt around the area for them.

    Once you get to the area shown by the quest marker, use the treasure marker (little sack of cash) instead. That will help.

    Alternatively (real spoiler)...
    Spoiler:
    I didn't have much trouble finding that one, I had more trouble with a piece of the assault rifle quest in that bandit camp up on a cliffside in the arid badlands.

  • cncaudatacncaudata Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Got Moxxi last night. I did one of the 5-round events. I was rather surprised when I realized that I needed to do 5 "rounds", not 5 "waves". Pretty entertaining, but very long. I never actually died other than the first 2 times in round 1, so I'm not sure how far back you'd go if you lost in a later wave... but that would stink.

    I'm not sure how you'd do those events without insane gear if you aren't Lilith, though...

  • dachishdachish Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Ah ha, that did the trick. And thanks Iolo, one of the ones I was missing was in the car =)

    Thanks guys

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  • HawkHawk Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I really like this game. I had some crappy guns in the beginning and the game was getting really boring without good weapons (core of the game). Finally I hit a breaking point and started getting good weapons and now it's a lot better. I just wish I had more time for this game.

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