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Mass Effect 1&2 - KILL ONE AND ONE HUNDRED WILL REPLACE IT
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This does not seem like assumption to me. It seems like proof. Like, pretty clearly? Am I missing something?
Heh, Hell maybe. I would not be surprised if the Salarians had a similar incident in their history.
For whatever reason, Citadel races do not trust AIs (even before the Geth). Even in the codex it says that the Citadel sent there fleet in (shakes fist) to the border expecting a Geth invasion. Why would they expect the Geth to attack the rest of the galaxy when it was the Quarians they had beef with?
To me the reason AIs are illegal seems to have less to do with creating a self aware entity and more to do with AIs = KILL ALL (insert species name).
Very likely due to incidents similar to the Morning War.
An AI gets unhappy and wants to control its own destiny. It's owner tries to shut it down. It reacts poorly.
The Morning War is that X1,000,000,000
The Quarians physically raped every geth they captured.
We know this for a fact, based on dialogue you can piece together in the game.
Are you saying rape is ok?
You are saying rape is ok now. you rapist
They do, but Best Buy charges an arm and a leg for Asari<->Geth converter cables.
As I was saying before, any child with an Omni-Tool is a child-soldier.
If you actually listen to all of Legion's coversations, instead of just assuming that he's lying for some unknown reason, you'd see that's not how it all went down. The geth didn't want to do any of that, they don't want to be at war with the quarians, they didn't have a choice. It was fight back or be wiped out. And that they are willing to work towards peace and try to make things better between their races.
There's no such thing as a noncombat model geth. That's not how the geth work.
And no, biology didn't do that. They wouldn't have to be in enviro suits all the damn time if they had their planet.
Fondor, that's what Legion told you. Who is a Geth, who was there while the rest of the Geth were off killing Quarians. Thus you cannot trust his word. You also can't trust the Quarians. All you can trust are facts.
Of which we do not have enough of. So i'm out for the night.
We don't. But any quarian with technological know-how (so mos of them) could hack a geth temporarily. Speculating on that, from the geth perspective, any quarian with an omni-tool could've been a potential enemy.
So if a child soldier was trying to kill you, would you fight back? You could retreat, but that could be a losing battle. If you fight and lose, you're dead. If you fight and win, you're a child murderer.
I wouldn't say thats a soldier per se. Thats sort of like saying a kid who starts fooling around with his dads gun is the same a 13 year old mercenary leader.
In this thread you said that it would be justified to shut them down if every other AI before them had exhibited murderous intent. This obviously spits in the face of guilty until proven innocent which is the fucking cornerstone of our justice system. Several times you have made posts along the lines of,
"They aren't people, they're machines!"
Which I will counter with the blatantly obvious parallel.
"They aren't people, they're black."
And what finally got racist fools to stop using that last line of logic was being forced to accept that no, black people are in fact people. And declaring the Geth aren't because their sense of "self" is different from ours is the world's biggest slippery slope. So big I could get some mad air ski jumping off that bitch.
LoL: failboattootoot
One last thing.
You're not a soldier if you happen to own a gun.
You're not a hacker because you own a computer.
The quarians raped every geth they captured.
By supporting the quarians, you are saying raping literally billions of geth children is an ok thing
the quarians would go into geth homes in the middle of the night and rape geth
the screams of geth children
we know for a fact
The Geth as a whole is greater than the sum of its parts. We learn this pretty blatantly.
A solo Geth is basically about as intellectually aware as your calculator.
The closest thing that what the Quarians were doing can be compared to is someone doing experiments on cells from your nervous system/brain.
Wha...what. This is nothing like racism. At all. Code is predictable. If every other AI in the past that has been accidentally created, why would this one be any different? It's a machine, it doesn't get to have innocent till proven guilty, because it's an entirely different being.
White people and black people have the same basic genetics, makeup, etc. A quarian and a geth share VERY little in that department.
edit: And now -Tal has been reduced to pointless trolling.
Someone already threw out a rebuttal that the conversation went something like:
Grunt: Well, you fucked up your world.
Tali: Nuh uh, the geth started it.
A paraphrasing of a paraphrasing, but the gist is that the conversation doesn't pin the nukes on anyone.
Except you know...we didn't create black people.
so you'd rape a dog
you LITERALLY just admitted that you would rape a dog
your words, not mine
Code is only predictable if you know all the inputs precisely. Which no one does in the case of the geth, even early in their intelligence.
So what you're saying is that the quarians are merely geth physically adapted to a different environment.
Quarians are geth? This is big, Shepard.
I thought the whole idea of true AI was that it was sentient and thus nowhere near as predictable as an ordinary program may be.
My statement ties back into my little story.
That child becomes a soldier when he tries to shut off his nanny Geth, who very much does not want to die.
But it isn't.
And also, to someone else, an individual Geth program is as powerful as a VI, not some silly calculator.
LoL: failboattootoot
But we don't know that. Now talk about something less angry.
You can piece it together through various conversations in the game. For example, take Legion to Jack's loyalty mission and their conversation basically boils down to "we suffered a lot worse in the war".
Add in geth desire to stay away from everybody and the Quarian desire to go back there and get them, and it becomes a pretty obvious fact.
Certainly no less clear than the absolute fact that geth went to quarian homes in the middle of the night and killed screaming children.
And we circle back to the talk of quantum black boxes. The Geth appear to be unique in the way that achieved intelligence. Earlier experiences wouldn't be appropriate to apply.
Considering Legion is walking around with a hole in him. I could see where shock treatment wouldn't be seen as a biggy to the geth
:lol:
You have a huge axe to grind, and it's ridiculous you're choosing this thread to do it. In most other forums you would have been laughed out of here a long time ago, it's amazing we're so polite here.
I'm aware that they would both be bias, but that's no reason to disregard anything they say. I don't understand...
speaking of which
Why don't we see any biotic geth? You'd think it would actually be easier for them than for organics. Pop some eezo into the circuits, run electricity through.
i.e. my theory that the Geth are a genocidal machine race with no morals to speak of and deserving of little else but obliteration before they try and kill everyone else.
Also. Damn those darsty Quarians for wanting their home back. How dare they desire the single planet in the universe which will take their population sixty years as opposed to six hundred to get used to. I mean the Geth are puting it to so much use currently what with their... Well, actually no they don't use planets.
In fact the only real reason they could be hanging around there is to stop the Quarians taking it back. It's hardly like Geth put down roots afterall.
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite post in the thread.
I believe Mordin sums up my points on this matter:
"Loathe metaphors. Pander to uneducated masses. Get doctorate, have a real conversation."
Do we know this happened though? I mean I wouldn't be surprised if there were isolated cases of kids wanting to take up arms or something..
The real reason the rules probably exist though is because historically people treat AIs badly, and then they go rogue and kill a bunch of people. This feeds into the loop of misunderstanding - people don't trust AIs, and so lock them up tight, and so AIs inevitably end up resenting their makers and when they get out, kill a bunch of people.
If there's going to be synthetic rights
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