What to do about panhandlers?

SmokeStacks

You keep trying.

I'll keep helping people who are willing to help themselves.

Eat it You Nasty Pig.

Yeah, the reality is that living on the streets really sucks for a lot of reasons, and most of the people doing it are people who have serious mental illnesses or other social problems that make it very difficult for them to get help. The number of homeless veterans in the U.S. is astounding, for example.

It takes a truly silly-goosian level of blinding naivete to believe that most or even any homeless people choose a dangerous, violent generally unpleasant life voluntarily.

All panhandlers are not homeless, of course, and it's not as though you're obligated to help them, but this idea that people who actually live on the streets "choose" that lifestyle is ridiculous.

Garick

SmokeStacks wrote: »

You keep trying.

I'll keep being a selfish uncaring goose.

Fats

SmokeStacks wrote: »

You keep trying.

I'll keep helping people who are willing to help themselves.

I think it's irrational to expect everyone in a population group with an enormous prevalence towards mental illness to help themselves.

SmokeStacks

Garick wrote: »

I'll keep being a sucker.

Two can play at that game?

billwill

I think we can all be sure that we are right. We are just wasting time with this guy.

Some people just don't want to know the truth...

Garick

Yeah, people who help others out sure are suckers!

I think Billwill said it best

People like you are the reason why America sucks.

SmokeStacks

Fats wrote: »

SmokeStacks wrote: »

You keep trying.

I'll keep helping people who are willing to help themselves.

I think it's irrational to expect everyone in a population group with an enormous prevalence towards mental illness to help themselves.

So who is responsible for taking care of someone with a mental illness who is living on the street?

You? Me? The State?

Let's see you put your bleeding heart where your mouth is. Find a homeless person in your city and let them live in your house. Give them a warm bed, three squares, and clean clothes. Drive them around to job interviews. Give them a second chance at life.

Or just give them some change and smugly reflect from the saddle of your high horse how good of a person you are, because even though you have not done anything meaningful to help that person in the long run, you can wash away all the guilt you feel when you look at them for the price of a little pocket change.

Fats

I'm having a hard time following your giant leaps of logic, since at no point did I say that I or anyone should give them change.

Gabriel_Pitt

SmokeStacks wrote: »

Fats wrote: »

SmokeStacks wrote: »

You keep trying.

I'll keep helping people who are willing to help themselves.

I think it's irrational to expect everyone in a population group with an enormous prevalence towards mental illness to help themselves.

So who is responsible for taking care of someone with a mental illness who is living on the street?

You? Me? The State?

Let's see you put your bleeding heart where your mouth is. Find a homeless person in your city and let them live in your house. Give them a warm bed, three squares, and clean clothes. Drive them around to job interviews. Give them a second chance at life.

Or just give them some change and smugly reflect from the saddle of your high horse how good of a person you are, because even though you have not done anything meaningful to help that person in the long run, you can wash away all the guilt you feel when you look at them for the price of a little pocket change.

All right, you obviously have a problem here. This thread probably isn't the place to work them out. If you want help, start your own thread. Otherwise, D&D is thataway. :arrow:

Bartholamue

Yeah guys, I got the help I needed. I think this can be locked.

Tube

I'm going to go through this thread later and infract everyone who gave their stupid fucking opinions instead of giving any stupid fucking advice.

So you know.

Look forward to that.