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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »
    Finally made it to chapter 11 and wow. Difficulty ramped up (finally).

    Was able to get the first 5 missions done and then one or 2 of the C's done. I think 6 and 8. Some of them are just brutal right now so I moved past and am scaling the tower to try and find maybe a hub or something.

    How far am I from chocobo riding? Need to do some serious farming and leveling so I can grind out the stone missions. I got the catalogue leveled to its next tier and that helps but the Kaiser Behemoth mission still rapes my face and need to power up a bit.

    The Chocobo Treasure Hunt mini-game, the best place to get money, opens up when you complete mission 14! I hope I can manage to get that far. I lost to the second mission twice, and when I finally beat it I received no stars. :(

    For CP farming, someone told me this:
    Spoiler:

    Maybe I should try those mobs before I move on with missions. I want that damn Chocobo mini-game, though, for the Gil.

    I like you can remember what I said (copypasted even?), but oddly not remember that I said it :P But yeah getting a bit more CP for some of the later 1-14 missions wont hurt.

    late chapter 11 spoilers
    Spoiler:

    I have a bunch of notepads on my desktop with GP and CP farming tips. :P

    But ugh, I need to find that spot soon. These monsters are fucking raping me. Do those monsters respawn easily? Like if I round a corner I can just turn back? And do you have any more precise coordinates for those monsters I should look out for?

    I can't say I'm enjoying Chapter 11 so far. This spike in difficulty feels a bit too extreme. It feels like I need about five or six times as much health just to survive in this place.

    Oh, cool. I have no idea why I missed this, since I read through the first two pages before posting.

    And I should use that notepad idea, too.

  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »

    I have a bunch of notepads on my desktop with GP and CP farming tips. :P

    But ugh, I need to find that spot soon. These monsters are fucking raping me. Do those monsters respawn easily? Like if I round a corner I can just turn back? And do you have any more precise coordinates for those monsters I should look out for?
    Spoiler:
    Fig-D wrote: »
    Whelp, OP revision 1 complete (aka the almost total ripping off of Arivia's thread).

    Anything else I should add?

    I found this on Gamespot, Sellable item guide
    Spoiler:

    Spoiler:
  • IgortIgort Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    Man, the soundtrack is awesome, but it sucks it's not available as an album on iTunes. I'm not shelling out $80 to get each song individually. I may just order the CDs from Square-Enix's website.

    I'm sure you'll be able to get it off eBay soon enough. The OST's been out since January, so I'd be surprised if there weren't some sellers offering it for a pretty good price already.

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  • CiriraCirira Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Fig-D wrote: »
    Whelp, OP revision 1 complete (aka the almost total ripping off of Arivia's thread).

    Anything else I should add?

    It looks good Fig-d. My Weapon list was me copying it out of the strategy guide. Some of the abilities in there are less then clear. There is a Synthesis with a few weapons and other items that causes instant staggers and Lionheart is part of this group. Lionheart + 1 or 2 weapons from that group have the chance to cause Instant Staggers. Note that Ultimate Weapons are not part of any Synthesis group, so that bonus disappears for that weapon once an Ultimate Weapon.

    The Guide also states that a Tier 1 Weapon from lvl 1 to max takes approximately 50,000 experience, a Tier 2 from Lvl 1 to max takes approx 450,000 experience. An Ultimate Weapon from Lvl 1 to max takes 1,500,000 experience.

    It's very random but those are the approximates for weapons according to the guide.

  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »

    I have a bunch of notepads on my desktop with GP and CP farming tips. :P

    But ugh, I need to find that spot soon. These monsters are fucking raping me. Do those monsters respawn easily? Like if I round a corner I can just turn back? And do you have any more precise coordinates for those monsters I should look out for?
    Spoiler:
    Fig-D wrote: »
    Whelp, OP revision 1 complete (aka the almost total ripping off of Arivia's thread).

    Anything else I should add?

    I found this on Gamespot, Sellable item guide
    Spoiler:

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.

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  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.

    That fight isnt that easy though (Behemoth goes stage 2 when you cant finish him off fast, and heals to full), the robots in the cave are faster to kill (I had no troubles with the bombs, but then again, I didnt find the area until I had roamed a bit)

    At the moment I'm trying to down an Adamantoise, by using dirty tricks, its not really working so far.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »

    I have a bunch of notepads on my desktop with GP and CP farming tips. :P

    But ugh, I need to find that spot soon. These monsters are fucking raping me. Do those monsters respawn easily? Like if I round a corner I can just turn back? And do you have any more precise coordinates for those monsters I should look out for?
    Spoiler:
    Fig-D wrote: »
    Whelp, OP revision 1 complete (aka the almost total ripping off of Arivia's thread).

    Anything else I should add?

    I found this on Gamespot, Sellable item guide
    Spoiler:

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.
    The best place is in the Western Benchlands. There are a bunch of Rangdas and Leyaks (the small...chicken imp things), they respawn almost as soon as you leave their area, take about 30 seconds to kill even when you're fresh to the area, and give anywhere from 1750-3500 per fight.

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  • RivulentRivulent Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    One thing I noticed, and it's probably been said before, but it's much more efficient to spend your points in the top tiers only to get to abilities you want/need, and avoiding the ancillary strength/magic/hp bubbles. Instead, use the points saved to bring your abilities up in the two other paradigms, even if they are never used. The basis is pretty common sense: Each stage gets less and less CP:stat efficient, so spending 1000 cp on 30 hp on Snow's ravenger build is a lot smarter than spending 10000 cp on 120 hp. The lower tier in this example is over twice as efficient.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.

    That fight isnt that easy though (Behemoth goes stage 2 when you cant finish him off fast, and heals to full), the robots in the cave are faster to kill (I had no troubles with the bombs, but then again, I didnt find the area until I had roamed a bit)

    At the moment I'm trying to down an Adamantoise, by using dirty tricks, its not really working so far.

    RAV/COM/RAV combo killed the Behemoth super fast, though. You quickly get the stagger meter to 999% and since it starts at half health, it dies quickly. The wolf is piss easy, too. I five starred it and got 6,600 CP.

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  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.

    That fight isnt that easy though (Behemoth goes stage 2 when you cant finish him off fast, and heals to full), the robots in the cave are faster to kill (I had no troubles with the bombs, but then again, I didnt find the area until I had roamed a bit)

    At the moment I'm trying to down an Adamantoise, by using dirty tricks, its not really working so far.

    RAV/COM/RAV combo killed the Behemoth super fast, though. You quickly get the stagger meter to 999% and since it starts at half health, it dies quickly. The wolf is piss easy, too. I five starred it and got 6,600 CP.

    Yeah its good too, I just preferred the shitload of bomb cores I got from those bombs.

    In other news, a dead Adamantoise is worth 40.000 CP ;-)

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Lifting Since 1997Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I didn't know the standards for OPs were so valued here.

    In any event, it's fine. I was actually considering letting other members take turns on each new thread, and I'm still way behind for any of that technical jargon to become relevant for me yet.

  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I didn't know the standards for OPs were so valued here.

    In any event, it's fine. I was actually considering letting other members take turns on each new thread, and I'm still way behind for any of that technical jargon to become relevant for me yet.

    I was going to pick up the new one but I got scared. it's too much pressure o_O

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.

    That fight isnt that easy though (Behemoth goes stage 2 when you cant finish him off fast, and heals to full), the robots in the cave are faster to kill (I had no troubles with the bombs, but then again, I didnt find the area until I had roamed a bit)

    At the moment I'm trying to down an Adamantoise, by using dirty tricks, its not really working so far.

    RAV/COM/RAV combo killed the Behemoth super fast, though. You quickly get the stagger meter to 999% and since it starts at half health, it dies quickly. The wolf is piss easy, too. I five starred it and got 6,600 CP.

    Yeah its good too, I just preferred the shitload of bomb cores I got from those bombs.

    In other news, a dead Adamantoise is worth 40.000 CP ;-)

    There seem to be a lot of CP tricks in Chapter 11. I'm enjoying this one a lot more, though, because I kill them in a single minute and they respawn about ten seconds later.

    I want to kill Adamantoise, but the trick requires Vanille to have Death, right? I don't have access to that yet. I'll have to carry on to Chapters 12 and 13 to open that up properly, I suppose (the teleporter back to the Chapter 11 area is in Chapter 13 or both?).

    Right now I want to max out my current Crystarium proficiencies, go do the missions until 14, and do the Chocobo Treasure Hunt for the Gil so I can upgrade my weapons. After that I'll continue on, get Death for Vanille, and come back to try that trick.

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.

    That fight isnt that easy though (Behemoth goes stage 2 when you cant finish him off fast, and heals to full), the robots in the cave are faster to kill (I had no troubles with the bombs, but then again, I didnt find the area until I had roamed a bit)

    At the moment I'm trying to down an Adamantoise, by using dirty tricks, its not really working so far.

    RAV/COM/RAV combo killed the Behemoth super fast, though. You quickly get the stagger meter to 999% and since it starts at half health, it dies quickly. The wolf is piss easy, too. I five starred it and got 6,600 CP.

    What I'm currently doing is getting a pre-emptive attack on the King Behemoth at the start of the Archylte Steppe (near the save pont) having Sazh cast Haste on my party of him, Lightning and Fang, staggering the Behemoth, and finally going COM/COM/COM to beat his entire health bar down in one stagger.

    Dashui's method sounds even easier.

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Lifting Since 1997Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I didn't know the standards for OPs were so valued here.

    In any event, it's fine. I was actually considering letting other members take turns on each new thread, and I'm still way behind for any of that technical jargon to become relevant for me yet.

    I was going to pick up the new one but I got scared. it's too much pressure o_O

    You can call dibs on the next if you want. I got my fix, so I'm not in a demand to horde future threads.

    Kudos to Fig's OP though, nicely done. :^:

  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Stilts wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »
    Dashui wrote: »

    I've found I'm not liking that spot after all. Those two mobs by themselves are actually quite easy, but to get them to respawn again I have to go through a single mob of three bombs and two robots. The bombs, naturally, go to self destruct mode immediately.

    I've heard there's another good spot before you enter that area. You have a King Behemoth and Giant Wolf fighting each other. You can attack them, get an easy stagger on the Behemoth and finish him off, then kill the Wolf. Since they start at half health, it's suppose to be an easy 6,500 CP. There's a save spawn immediately next to them, too.

    I wonder if I should use Snow instead of Fang here for now, because he has 1/3 more HP than she does.

    That fight isnt that easy though (Behemoth goes stage 2 when you cant finish him off fast, and heals to full), the robots in the cave are faster to kill (I had no troubles with the bombs, but then again, I didnt find the area until I had roamed a bit)

    At the moment I'm trying to down an Adamantoise, by using dirty tricks, its not really working so far.

    RAV/COM/RAV combo killed the Behemoth super fast, though. You quickly get the stagger meter to 999% and since it starts at half health, it dies quickly. The wolf is piss easy, too. I five starred it and got 6,600 CP.

    What I'm currently doing is getting a pre-emptive attack on the King Behemoth at the start of the Archylte Steppe (near the save pont) having Sazh cast Haste on my party of him, Lightning and Fang, staggering the Behemoth, and finally going COM/COM/COM to beat his entire health bar down in one stagger.

    Dashui's method sounds even easier.

    Like I posted above this one, it takes about one minute to one minute and 20 seconds to kill the two of them. You'll five star it and get 6,600 CP. Go back up the hill, turn around, and they're back again. It's ridiculous. In only a few minutes I already had about 25,000 CP.

    There's a save point RIGHT next to them, too, so it's a great spot.

    Doing this 15 times gives you almost 100,000 CP.

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One Never let an alligator... Do your taxesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So those secondary rewards...If I redo the quest do i keep getting the secondary rewards?

    Also. The statues in the tower you have to do to proceed further. Can you redo them later to get the 5 stars? I only 3 stared em and wonder if they are doable again for the achievement or if they don't count.

  • Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    From previous thread. I need tips on fighting cryo bomb guys. I tried fire and cant seem to kill them fast enough. I am fine when I can get the jump on them but if I dont they heal up to full hp thanks to their 9000k hp heal they get from each other attacking.

    BarFrost doesn't help defend as they still kill me in one hit (should it be upwards of 75%hp when it explodes). Meanwhile other bombs attack me heal the ones that are trying to explode. Oh how it would help to be able to control my character and have them run AWAY from dangerous things.

  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User
    edited March 2010
    Lux782 wrote: »
    From previous thread. I need tips on fighting cryo bomb guys. I tried fire and cant seem to kill them fast enough. I am fine when I can get the jump on them but if I dont they heal up to full hp thanks to their 9000k hp heal they get from each other attacking.

    BarFrost doesn't help defend as they still kill me in one hit (should it be upwards of 75%hp when it explodes). Meanwhile other bombs attack me heal the ones that are trying to explode. Oh how it would help to be able to control my character and have them run AWAY from dangerous things.

    Blitz and Ruinga - preferable with 2 commando's, if that doesnt cut it, you should upgrade a bit.
    Dashui wrote: »
    There seem to be a lot of CP tricks in Chapter 11. I'm enjoying this one a lot more, though, because I kill them in a single minute and they respawn about ten seconds later.

    I want to kill Adamantoise, but the trick requires Vanille to have Death, right?

    Seems that it works like 1 time out of 500 though. (no loot from that 1 time even)

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One Never let an alligator... Do your taxesRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ruinga is so funny against those summoning Frog things. 8 guys in one spot and BOOM everyone goes flying in the air. Second follows behind it and BOOM goes the dynomite. Throw in some Aeroga and its good times had by all.

  • Fig-DFig-D Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I didn't know the standards for OPs were so valued here.

    In any event, it's fine. I was actually considering letting other members take turns on each new thread, and I'm still way behind for any of that technical jargon to become relevant for me yet.

    I was going to pick up the new one but I got scared. it's too much pressure o_O

    You can call dibs on the next if you want. I got my fix, so I'm not in a demand to horde future threads.

    Kudos to Fig's OP though, nicely done. :^:

    Thanks!

    I feel like I need to add some pictures or something though. Right now it feels a little wordy and technical. Too much technical crap, not enough pretties.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Lifting Since 1997Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Fig-D wrote: »
    I didn't know the standards for OPs were so valued here.

    In any event, it's fine. I was actually considering letting other members take turns on each new thread, and I'm still way behind for any of that technical jargon to become relevant for me yet.

    I was going to pick up the new one but I got scared. it's too much pressure o_O

    You can call dibs on the next if you want. I got my fix, so I'm not in a demand to horde future threads.

    Kudos to Fig's OP though, nicely done. :^:

    Thanks!

    I feel like I need to add some pictures or something though. Right now it feels a little wordy and technical. Too much technical crap, not enough pretties.

    A character list with your own personal descriptions would go a long way.

  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    I like how people either absolutely love this game or absolutely loathe it.

    I didn't enjoy this game at all except for the combat until chapter 9 where some of the main characters finally grow some fucking balls, it ceases screwing with your party every 5 seconds and you can decide who is in your party. Beyond chapter 9, bearing in mind that's probably around 12 hours of gameplay getting to that point already - I have really got into the game and begun to really enjoy it.

    Fuck the first 8 chapters though.

  • metaghostmetaghost Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Fuck the first 8 chapters though.

    This is what makes me really sad, because no matter how much I end up enjoying this game, I'll never want to play it again because the first ~15 hours suck so much.

  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    metaghost wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    Fuck the first 8 chapters though.

    This is what makes me really sad, because no matter how much I end up enjoying this game, I'll never want to play it again because the first ~15 hours suck so much.

    I have a save right at the start of chapter 10.

    Better foresight would have seen me do it at chapter 9, but sadly I didn't think that far ahead. :(

    This isn't a game I will ever replay.

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I liked all the Lightning/Hope sections of the early chapters, and their section in the forest area is when I actually started to like the game and characters.

    The Sazh/Vanille stuff was some of the most boring shit I've ever experienced, though.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I've enjoyed most of the game. The only reason why I wouldn't replay it again is because I rarely, rarely replay JRPGs. They're just so... long! Actually, I don't think I've ever replayed a JRPG before.

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  • nessinnessin Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    For reference, if anyone wants to avoid farming in Chapter 11, there are two fights in Chapter 12 (I forget the exact area), but its the area in the shape of two circles with paths following the inner and outer rings as well as passing between the two circles. The first two-three encounters you face are a pack of Vampires facing off against PSICOM. They don't spot you when you come up, so guaranteed pre-emptive strike, one side dies quick to instant-stagger and half health, the other isn't too far off as long as you use your AoE spells.

    I think in the course of about a minute or minute and a half per fight you get about 15k CP. Overall its not as effective as staying in Chapter 11, since I don't believe they respawn naturally, but its an option. You do face a couple of really hard fights before reaching that point too. Plus PSICOM drop Credit/Incentive chips and Vampires drop Cie'th Tears and Tears of Woe. Cie'th Tears might not be worth much, but Tears of Woe rock for low value weapons and accessories.

  • Black_HeartBlack_Heart Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Title of the thread compels me to say I feel "My Hands" was used perfectly in the game and I don't understand the irrational hate for Leona Lewis... but then again I'm not a person who is immersed in pop culture... or even pays attention to it in the slightest... so this is the first time I've even heard of her.

    However I felt the song was used great in the game and fit the atmosphere perfectly.

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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    JimR wrote: »
    There IS NO STORY. No arc.

    This is objectively false.

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  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User
    edited March 2010
    Bahamut spoiler
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  • LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'd bet money that if "My Hands" was in Japanese and sung by someone no one has heard about, but was essentially the same song, it wouldn't get close to the amount of hate.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Space Princess w/ Grenade Launcher Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'd bet money that if "My Hands" was in Japanese and sung by someone no one has heard about, but was essentially the same song, it wouldn't get close to the amount of hate.

    You mean the Japanese song that was composed specifically for the game that got replaced with a random pre-existing American song in the Western version?

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Man, the first 10 chapters were awesome.

    Chapter 1-10 spoilers:
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  • ElldrenElldren 3067-6294-6208Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'd bet money that if "My Hands" was in Japanese and sung by someone no one has heard about, but was essentially the same song, it wouldn't get close to the amount of hate.

    Female pop singers are often nerd rage buttons for some unfathomable reason.

  • IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    JimR wrote: »
    There IS NO STORY. No arc.

    This is objectively false.

    Meh, I'd say it's technically false but qualitatively true. For the vast majority of the playtime so far, it's been nothing but random flashbacks that form some incoherent exposition for the different characters that sounds like plot point MadLibs, assuming you are able to extract the point from all the emo-ing about that everyone does. Even after it's been extracted from the tortured and slow story-telling of the gratuitous cutscenes, the premise is convoluted and more than a touch trite. There isn't even a tangible goal for the characters for much of the game. The main plot line doesn't even come into focus until the end of Chapter 10. The overall quality of the story of this game is by far the shittiest I've ever seen. The plot itself isn't really much more horribad than FF10, but the storytelling is orders of magnitude worse.

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    It irks me to no end that you can't have two COM's attacking the same target. Thats the stupidest fucking thing urgh

  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Topia wrote: »
    It irks me to no end that you can't have two COM's attacking the same target. Thats the stupidest fucking thing urgh
    You can when there's only one target. Bust out the COM/COM/RAV (or even COM/COM/COM) for staggered bosses

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    JimR wrote: »
    There IS NO STORY. No arc.

    This is objectively false.

    Meh, I'd say it's technically false but qualitatively true. For the vast majority of the playtime so far, it's been nothing but random flashbacks that form some incoherent exposition for the different characters that sounds like plot point MadLibs, assuming you are able to extract the point from all the emo-ing about that everyone does. Even after it's been extracted from the tortured and slow story-telling of the gratuitous cutscenes, the premise is convoluted and more than a touch trite. There isn't even a tangible goal for the characters for much of the game. The main plot line doesn't even come into focus until the end of Chapter 10. The overall quality of the story of this game is by far the shittiest I've ever seen. The plot itself isn't really much more horribad than FF10, but the storytelling is orders of magnitude worse.

    /shrug

    I really enjoy the characters and the story so far, and the story hasn't "come into focus" yet (chapter 9). I feel like it's a matter of preference, really. To say that there is no story and that the characters have no arcs seems like a pretty silly statement to me.

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    JimR wrote: »
    There IS NO STORY. No arc.

    This is objectively false.

    Meh, I'd say it's technically false but qualitatively true. For the vast majority of the playtime so far, it's been nothing but random flashbacks that form some incoherent exposition for the different characters that sounds like plot point MadLibs, assuming you are able to extract the point from all the emo-ing about that everyone does. Even after it's been extracted from the tortured and slow story-telling of the gratuitous cutscenes, the premise is convoluted and more than a touch trite. There isn't even a tangible goal for the characters for much of the game. The main plot line doesn't even come into focus until the end of Chapter 10. The overall quality of the story of this game is by far the shittiest I've ever seen. The plot itself isn't really much more horribad than FF10, but the storytelling is orders of magnitude worse.

    /shrug

    I really enjoy the characters and the story so far, and the story hasn't "come into focus" yet (chapter 9). I feel like it's a matter of preference, really. To say that there is no story and that the characters have no arcs seems like a pretty silly statement to me.

    Yea it's my thoughts. It's nice to have a game where the protagonist isn't sure what to do. They are just trying to stay alive, which is a perfectably acceptable thing to do, I'd say. They have goals, but for once it isn't OMG THIS GUY IS EEEEVIL LETS KIL HIM AND AVENGE MY PARENTS

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