Who gives a fuck about Captain America, let's talk about Penthouse Comix!

Sars_Boy

this also explains why Matt Fraction was acting super mysterious when i asked him about Casanova's return at ECCC

Kuribo's Shoe

it'd be nice if I could read matt fraction's x-men stuff

but

you know

greg land

Centipede Damascus

I am completely in agreement with you there, Shoe

Balefuego

you could always just read the non-Land arcs. He rotates on and off.

Sars_Boy

Nogs wrote: »

ya, i don't know about Icon really being used to unknowns. it is for marvel's creator-owned stuff. which means marvel proper doesn't get as much of a cut when selling those books. thus they are likely to only really trust Icon books with big named people they know will sell well.

or in order to cement a contract for a big name that has always wanted to do creator owned stuff.

id be interested to find out how much marvel makes off an icon book versus somewhere like image

same goes for creators

i remember millar saying something to the effect of they do all the promotion themselves and it has to come out of pocket

Kuribo's Shoe

I could, but I'd know that somehow, Greg Land is still getting some of my money.

Owenashi

Here's the full Secret Avengers lineup announced at C2E2 for those not paying attention to it.

Spoiler:

C2E2s Cup O Joe Panel wrote:

he panel started by revealing the full cast of Ed Brubaker's and Mike Deodato's "Secret Avengers." "It's a Secret unless you've been reading the internet for the past 48 hours," said Brevoort before revealing the lineup to be Steve Rogers, Sharon Carter, War Machine, Nova, The Beast, Moon Knight, Valkyrie, Black Widow and the Irredeemable Ant-Man. Marko Djurdjevic will provide coves and has drawn a massive Avengers image featuring the full lineup of all the teams, which will be broken up into six covers for all the Avengers titles next year.

Marvel also announced a new Invaders mini-series by Christos Gage and Alex Ross.

Nogs

thing with image is, while they are all creator owned

if you look at their board of directors

that is pretty much the creators of their books right there.

Kuribo's Shoe

oh man Christos Gage awesome

oh no Alex Ross boo

Sars_Boy

Nogs wrote: »

thing with image is, while they are all creator owned

if you look at their board of directors

that is pretty much the creators of their books right there.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

what?

Kuribo's Shoe

Moon Knight? Valkyrie? this ain't the fuckin' Defenders, get outta here with those bums.

Nogs

one trend i don't like is

"oh this whole story line is featuring golden age characters/setting? Gotta bring in an artistic that only works in ultra-realistic"

Owenashi

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

Moon Knight? Valkyrie? this ain't the fuckin' Defenders, get outta here with those bums.

I'm not sure if that's a shared or popular opinion, Shoe.

Balefuego

I am super excited about Sharon Carter being on the team.


but fuck the new Ant-Man, ugh.

Kuribo's Shoe

Nogs wrote: »

one trend i don't like is

"oh this whole story line is featuring golden age characters/setting? Gotta bring in an artistic that only works in ultra-realistic"

if it involves the Invaders I'm sure it was Alex Ross' idea

Kuribo's Shoe

Owenashi wrote: »

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

Moon Knight? Valkyrie? this ain't the fuckin' Defenders, get outta here with those bums.

I'm not sure if that's a shared or popular opinion, Shoe.

well ain't that too bad

Sars_Boy

Sars_Boy wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

thing with image is, while they are all creator owned

if you look at their board of directors

that is pretty much the creators of their books right there.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

what?

to clarify this is pretty much wrong

the books by the image founders are such a tiny fraction of their output

Kuribo's Shoe

if Danielle Moonstar was Valkyrie I'd be down

moon knight ain't never been cool, he's just crazy Batman to the Sentry's crazy Superman

stop stealing dc characters and making them crazy

it was cool that one time in exiles when you did it with Hyperion but enough is enough and it's time for a change (I am not a nugget)

Olivaw

I still like Alex Ross

His art, anyway

Nogs

Sars_Boy wrote: »

Sars_Boy wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

thing with image is, while they are all creator owned

if you look at their board of directors

that is pretty much the creators of their books right there.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

what?

to clarify this is pretty much wrong

the books by the image founders are such a tiny fraction of their output

board of directors isn't founders, but even still that probably isn't the best term to use, ill admit.

Founders: Erik Larsen, Jim Lee, Rob Liefeld, Todd McFarlane, Whilce Portacio, Marc Silvestri, and Jim Valentino

Partners: Robert Kirkman, Erik Larsen, Todd McFarlane, Marc Silvestri, and Jim Valentino.

All i'm saying, when someone says "image comics" do you ever really think immediately of any project that is NOT done by one of those guys?

Faynor

Christos Gage is an insanely great writer

Alex Ross' art is kind of overrated though

Centipede Damascus

I liked Alex Ross' stuff in Kingdom Come and Marvels

Kuribo's Shoe

man I love N-Gage

his war machine was tits

Kuribo's Shoe

I liked Alex Ross' earth-x stuff in addition to Kingdom Come and Marvels but I have no desire to see him paint the Invaders or any silver age DC hero ever again

Faynor

I forgot he did World War Hulk: X-Men

that was pretty enjoyable

Sars_Boy

Nogs wrote: »

Sars_Boy wrote: »

Sars_Boy wrote: »

Nogs wrote: »

thing with image is, while they are all creator owned

if you look at their board of directors

that is pretty much the creators of their books right there.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

what?

to clarify this is pretty much wrong

the books by the image founders are such a tiny fraction of their output

board of directors isn't founders, but even still that probably isn't the best term to use, ill admit.

Founders: Erik Larsen, Jim Lee, Rob Liefeld, Todd McFarlane, Whilce Portacio, Marc Silvestri, and Jim Valentino

Partners: Robert Kirkman, Erik Larsen, Todd McFarlane, Marc Silvestri, and Jim Valentino.

All i'm saying, when someone says "image comics" do you ever really think immediately of any project that is NOT done by one of those guys?

y-yes?

image publishes a gazillion good indie comics

Kuribo's Shoe

all I can think about when I think about Image is Youngblood and Shadowhawk and Deathmate Black

Nogs

damnit dude i know, but their heavy hitting books

the ones that really sell, are ones that are done by those prominent people in the company. and thus that is how image is able to keep their heads above water and really become the number 3 even though they only do creator owned.

because the money for their big guns is going directly back into the company.

Jordyn

Chew is an Image comic right? That book is good.

Sars_Boy

when i think about image i think about Phonogram and Hickman's creator owned stuff and Popgun and Flight and King City and Orc Stain and Godland and chew and Kirkman's stuff and until a little while ago Casanova

Kuribo's Shoe

I don't think I've followed an image comic since I stopped buying savage dragon back in like, 2000

Futore

I don't think Image comics actually exist

Kuribo's Shoe

no you're thinking of mirage comics

Antimatter

you're both wrong
Dreamwave

Kuribo's Shoe

we don't speak of dreamwave

The Lovely Bastard

shoe you stop smack talkin' moon knight right now

Viscount Islands

More like Khonshit.

Faynor

what's so cool about moon knight

Balefuego

he has a neat costume

The Lovely Bastard

seriously secret avengers is the best lineup and eat it bale, irredeemable ant-man is rad