Speaking of urinals, I am utterly stunned at how often (roughly 99% of the time, not exaggerating) I will go into the Men's restroom at a bar and find a line of dudes waiting for the urinals when there is one available, but it is in between two other dudes.
There are so many people who have problems with homophobia or personal space or something that they completely refuse to use the middle urinal.
Nobody wants to look at your junk!
On the other hand this benefits me because I walk past the line of dudes and use the middle urinal.
I will use a middle urinal if it's the only one available. Otherwise, you gotta respect the rules.
The urinal "rules" are the dumbest fucking thing, first of all. Unless it's all a joke but it seems to be taken seriously by many.
Second of all, I'm talking about when it is the only urinal available and there is a line of 10 dudes who refuse to use it.
Wait, a 10 dude deep line for the bathroom? Where the hell are you that this is a common experience?
The trick to those situations is to form a human centipede where one person pees in the second guys mouth who then pees in the third guys mouth and so on and so forth until the last guy pees into the urinal.
oh my god it's not a centipede at all!
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thom: yeah, i had the book thrown at me already. some folks saying i'm a piece of shit, others saying i'm an okay person but setting myself up for hurt and being stupid. damn you, 22 year old impulsivity!
Man, it's always weird when I discover how old you guys are! I think of you as adults while I think of myself as a kid, but, for example, Organichu and I are the same age!
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Speaking of urinals, I am utterly stunned at how often (roughly 99% of the time, not exaggerating) I will go into the Men's restroom at a bar and find a line of dudes waiting for the urinals when there is one available, but it is in between two other dudes.
There are so many people who have problems with homophobia or personal space or something that they completely refuse to use the middle urinal.
Nobody wants to look at your junk!
On the other hand this benefits me because I walk past the line of dudes and use the middle urinal.
I will use a middle urinal if it's the only one available. Otherwise, you gotta respect the rules.
The urinal "rules" are the dumbest fucking thing, first of all. Unless it's all a joke but it seems to be taken seriously by many.
Second of all, I'm talking about when it is the only urinal available and there is a line of 10 dudes who refuse to use it.
Wait, a 10 dude deep line for the bathroom? Where the hell are you that this is a common experience?
A super crowded bar here that only has 3 urinals. I actually don't like that bar but a number of my friends do.
It doesn't have any toilets? Christ. And all of this rules shit. When I was a wee lad, I had to figure out how the rules applied to a trough urinal. Then I realized we were all pissing into a trough and it's not likely that anyone would care.
thom: yeah, i had the book thrown at me already. some folks saying i'm a piece of shit, others saying i'm an okay person but setting myself up for hurt and being stupid. damn you, 22 year old impulsivity!
I enter, there is a late-30s/omewhere-40s guy standing at the urinal. I get to a stall, unzip, pee, zip, wash hands and get out while he's still standing at his urinal. It felt so damn good. I should've said something as I was leaving.
You are proud of having a small bladder?
Um, no. I have no delay to my start-time and a lot of power to the stream.
maybe he had a prostate thing
for some reason if i have had a lot of caffeine that day i can't pee unless i have relative peace and quiet. like a loud noise will make me seize up and just ruin it
it's called "old", will, however you dress it
nah it's been that way for as long as i have been drinking coffee
i hope it's not a prostate thing. my dad just got diagnosed with prostate cancer and had to have it removed!
i offered to send him a baggie and rubber band for his recovery period.
Wednesday, I think early evening. So we'll still have some of your spring break to do stuff.
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Hah! You fixed the typo! :P
Also that's good to hear. Winky and I have been slugging it out in TvT for a bit, I think were getting steadily better, you and I should do the same sometime.
Basically we played the same race match up, and similar build concept, over and over refining it. It's surprisingly fun.
It doesn't have any toilets? Christ. And all of this rules shit. When I was a wee lad, I had to figure out how the rules applied to a trough urinal. Then I realized we were all pissing into a trough and it's not likely that anyone would care.
No I mean it only has 3 urinals, it also has one stall.
Also using the stall to piss when there is a urinal open but it's in between two dudes is also fucking silly.
GODDAMMIT NOBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT YOUR JUNK QUIT BEING SO FUCKING SCARED OF PEEING NEXT TO SOMEONE ELSE
I enter, there is a late-30s/omewhere-40s guy standing at the urinal. I get to a stall, unzip, pee, zip, wash hands and get out while he's still standing at his urinal. It felt so damn good. I should've said something as I was leaving.
Oh fuck, so people do notice?
I find it near impossible to piss when other people are around, so when I go to a urinal I tend to stand there until the bathroom is empty. I always wondered if this stood out.
I thought everyone treated public peeing as a race. I thought everyone understood what is at stake.
See, I've always felt the opposite.
Some guy would come in, pee, and leave while I was still peeing and in my head I'd be all "Look at the guy with the tiny bladder."
He knows what he heard, as he slowly drip-drip-dripped.
you understand that playing with karma when it comes to urinary issues is not a wise thing to do right
there is as broad a spectrum of hilarious and painful afflictions as wide as the universe is vast that that bitch karma can hit your magnificent urinary system with in response
In fact, i bet mr old uti mc kidney stones there probably stood where you are today laughing his ass off 20 years ago
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thom: yeah, i had the book thrown at me already. some folks saying i'm a piece of shit, others saying i'm an okay person but setting myself up for hurt and being stupid. damn you, 22 year old impulsivity!
Man, it's always weird when I discover how old you guys are! I think of you as adults while I think of myself as a kid, but, for example, Organichu and I are the same age!
And yet you have more common sense. And you are younger then me whippersnapper.
Well, I don't know how it actually works. All I know is that I've never gotten sick just drinking beer.
About 50-60% of the time I've drank liquor I've ended up getting sick.
That's good enough for me to just drink beer.
Pro tip: When you drink liquor your supposed to drink less than when you drink beer. :P
Indeed, but even times where I think I've taken it pretty easy I've ended up getting sick
And then times where I was drinking shit at a torrid pace and taking jello shots and crap I'll be fine.
It's just seemingly far too random for me to take my chances with ultimately.
Not to mention the fact that I love beer. I am not very sad about only drinking that particular beverage especially considering the whole "not getting sick from it" upside.
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Surefire way to make another dude look at your junk: snicker at the urinal.
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I think my desire for a trim quote tree obfuscated my point. I was responding more to everything you have said so far - which I think does lead to that. I think if a person - Will, or whomever - doesn't enjoy witnessing or partaking in a certain act, it does not follow that he is reinforcing his dominance over a subjugated class. Equating distaste with oppression strikes me as incredibly convenient.
If I said that I can't stand the sight of two men kissing, and that such a thing disgusts me, even though the sight of a man and a woman kissing does not disgust me in any way, would you find it absurd to surmise homophobia?
what do you mean by "homophobia," Feral? A distaste for witnessing homosexual activity, and an uncouth way of expressing that sentiment? Yes, that would be a fair thing for me to conclude. Enthusiastic support for the state-backed oppression of the class in every civil arena? Depending on the language you used, that would absolutely be stretching it!
Our assessments of people and behaviors are suspended in a large and complicated matrix. My plumber is a very valuable guy to know when I have a leak, but I don't really care to talk politics with him, nor do I ask him for advice about my cat. I am not reinforcing my subjugation over him by valuing him in certain arenas over others.
He knows what he heard, as he slowly drip-drip-dripped.
you understand that playing with karma when it comes to urinary issues is not a wise thing to do right
there is as broad a spectrum of hilarious and painful afflictions as wide as the universe is vast that that bitch karma can hit your magnificent urinary system with in response
In fact, i bet mr old uti mc kidney stones there probably stood where you are today laughing his ass off 20 years ago
But this is my time! This is when I should be the terror of all the old white dudes in lines at the stadium or whatever. To show them what I'm working with.
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thom: yeah, i had the book thrown at me already. some folks saying i'm a piece of shit, others saying i'm an okay person but setting myself up for hurt and being stupid. damn you, 22 year old impulsivity!
Man, it's always weird when I discover how old you guys are! I think of you as adults while I think of myself as a kid, but, for example, Organichu and I are the same age!
And yet you have more common sense. And you are younger then me whippersnapper.
Hah well, I've never really been tested. The range of experiences that Organichu has had in like.. the last 6 months.. have thoroughly outdone anything I've experienced.
I think my desire for a trim quote tree obfuscated my point. I was responding more to everything you have said so far - which I think does lead to that. I think if a person - Will, or whomever - doesn't enjoy witnessing or partaking in a certain act, it does not follow that he is reinforcing his dominance over a subjugated class. Equating distaste with oppression strikes me as incredibly convenient.
If I said that I can't stand the sight of two men kissing, and that such a thing disgusts me, even though the sight of a man and a woman kissing does not disgust me in any way, would you find it absurd to surmise homophobia?
I wouldn't think so. Tolerance of a lifestyle doesn't necessarily preclude a personal revulsion.
I personally have no problems seeing two dudes being casually affectionate, but it doesn't mean that i wouldn't be revolted at watching them bone.
Okay, from my perspective there are two possible responses to this feeling of revulsion.
One is to think, "Man, that's revolting, I didn't want to see that."
The other is to think, "Why do I find that revolting? People do that all the time, what is causing my revulsion?"
The former isn't an unconscionably immoral act; I'm not revoking "permission" to react that way. However, I do see it as closed-minded, and I do see it as a form of stereotypical thinking. It's a tacit acknowledgment effectively stating, "I have a stereotypical idea of what sex is, and I don't want to bother stepping out of that stereotype."
I understand that this comes across with moralizing language. I recognize that not everybody can be totally open-minded on every subject all the time. There are plenty of subjects on which I have no interest in challenging my own stereotypes. Human sexuality happens to be a subject I'm passionate about, so I'm sure this is coming through.
What I see is a culturally dominant schema of sex that is mostly heteronormative (with a little bit of license given to cute lesbians), mostly monogamous (with a little bit of license to cute girlfriends going at it), and mostly focused on the glorification of the young and the "beautiful" (with a media-reinforced standard of beauty).
This schema is itself a stereotype; it holds up this particular type of sex - heterosexual sex between two young pretty people - as beautiful, and all other forms of sex as akin to using the toilet. (In that people do it, and people will never stop doing it, but it should be done in the dark with the blinds closed and for god sake don't make too much noise.)
okay i am a little too drunk and tired to answer this with the thoughtfulness it deserves, but i will say that as a heterosexual in a long-term monogamous relationship with a lady who i find attractive, i don't feel a strong responsibility outside of basic tolerance towards the sexual habits of other people, and i don't feel a responsibility to try to bend my mind around finding unattractive people attractive or revolting acts unrevolting or their union unrevolting and attractive.
i mean i know that you engage in a lot of practices with a lot of people that i would find at best distasteful and more likely pretty revolting. and i support your right to do this! but i also believe that it is proper and my right to regard things as distasteful and/ or revolting.
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oh my god it's not a centipede at all!
Man, it's always weird when I discover how old you guys are! I think of you as adults while I think of myself as a kid, but, for example, Organichu and I are the same age!
It doesn't have any toilets? Christ. And all of this rules shit. When I was a wee lad, I had to figure out how the rules applied to a trough urinal. Then I realized we were all pissing into a trough and it's not likely that anyone would care.
But they are so much fun.
nah it's been that way for as long as i have been drinking coffee
i hope it's not a prostate thing. my dad just got diagnosed with prostate cancer and had to have it removed!
i offered to send him a baggie and rubber band for his recovery period.
Hah! You fixed the typo! :P
Also that's good to hear. Winky and I have been slugging it out in TvT for a bit, I think were getting steadily better, you and I should do the same sometime.
Basically we played the same race match up, and similar build concept, over and over refining it. It's surprisingly fun.
No I mean it only has 3 urinals, it also has one stall.
Also using the stall to piss when there is a urinal open but it's in between two dudes is also fucking silly.
GODDAMMIT NOBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT YOUR JUNK QUIT BEING SO FUCKING SCARED OF PEEING NEXT TO SOMEONE ELSE
One of the few good things about living in the country: trees and nobody watching.
you understand that playing with karma when it comes to urinary issues is not a wise thing to do right
there is as broad a spectrum of hilarious and painful afflictions as wide as the universe is vast that that bitch karma can hit your magnificent urinary system with in response
In fact, i bet mr old uti mc kidney stones there probably stood where you are today laughing his ass off 20 years ago
And yet you have more common sense. And you are younger then me whippersnapper.
Indeed, but even times where I think I've taken it pretty easy I've ended up getting sick
And then times where I was drinking shit at a torrid pace and taking jello shots and crap I'll be fine.
It's just seemingly far too random for me to take my chances with ultimately.
Not to mention the fact that I love beer. I am not very sad about only drinking that particular beverage especially considering the whole "not getting sick from it" upside.
It... It's in the quote in his post.
Edit: Damn my presumption.
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what do you mean by "homophobia," Feral? A distaste for witnessing homosexual activity, and an uncouth way of expressing that sentiment? Yes, that would be a fair thing for me to conclude. Enthusiastic support for the state-backed oppression of the class in every civil arena? Depending on the language you used, that would absolutely be stretching it!
Our assessments of people and behaviors are suspended in a large and complicated matrix. My plumber is a very valuable guy to know when I have a leak, but I don't really care to talk politics with him, nor do I ask him for advice about my cat. I am not reinforcing my subjugation over him by valuing him in certain arenas over others.
Hah! See! He's 21, not 22!
Also I'm older than you Prof.
But this is my time! This is when I should be the terror of all the old white dudes in lines at the stadium or whatever. To show them what I'm working with.
Uh-huh.
Hah well, I've never really been tested. The range of experiences that Organichu has had in like.. the last 6 months.. have thoroughly outdone anything I've experienced.
okay i am a little too drunk and tired to answer this with the thoughtfulness it deserves, but i will say that as a heterosexual in a long-term monogamous relationship with a lady who i find attractive, i don't feel a strong responsibility outside of basic tolerance towards the sexual habits of other people, and i don't feel a responsibility to try to bend my mind around finding unattractive people attractive or revolting acts unrevolting or their union unrevolting and attractive.
i mean i know that you engage in a lot of practices with a lot of people that i would find at best distasteful and more likely pretty revolting. and i support your right to do this! but i also believe that it is proper and my right to regard things as distasteful and/ or revolting.