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President of Poland Dies in a Plane Crash
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Yep, it's great if Russia wants to bring Europe to its knees it just has to turn off the gas.
I believe that the ceremony they were all supposed to be attending started at 9:30, the crash happened a little before 9:00. That's why the president apparently was the one who pushed for a landing despite the conditions. Diverting to any other airport would make them hours late.
As close to zero as to make no nevermind. Like I said before, in order for this to work as an orchestrated event, you'd need a Soviet fog machine to create the weather conditions, Soviet ambulatory trees to get in position for the plane to hit, and Soviet mind control rays to make the president insist they have to land despite the fog.
Given that the aircraft crashed in, well, Russia, Russia is pretty much obligated to hold at least its own investigation. That's how important aircraft crashes work.
So, you've got a choice between Militsyia Junior-Sergeant Ivan from the down street, who also enjoys Baking, collecting stamps, and the Russian adaptation of Law & Order or Vladimir Putin.
No witnesses in that nobody knows why the plane came down. Was it shot down, or was there a bomb, or was the pilot a secret agent? Unlikely, but we have to rely totally on after the fact investigations to find out what happened, which can't always be trusted. If this was purely pilot error its very difficult to prove that conclusively, because nobody lived to tell the tale. Just makes everything a bit more interesting.
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It came down because it hit trees ahead of the runway attempting an ill-advised landing in heavy fog.
Because you somehow missed it the first time, despite _quoting_ it:
Which would bring both down, since Russia heavily depends on the money they get for their gas. It's kinda like another cold war, essentially.
Which is exactly why the idea of a war between Europe and Russia is a fantasy of Tom Clancy and the American right.
Maddie: "I am not!"
Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
Maddie: "I am a placental mammal!"
He did it before apparently in 2008, he had an appointment in Georgia and the pilot was waved off when he went to land the plane because it was too dangerous. Kaczynski ordered him to land anyway and the pilot refused so Kaczynski fired him once they'd landed elsewhere.
As I've said, he wasn't a nice man.
There was some noise floating around about Kaczynski looking to attend the ceremony uninvited, he was looking to crash it if you will.
...most inappropriate CSI opening. Ever.
It's not just Russia, in the EU's defense. It's the entire CIS. Like the United States, Western Europe decided to take the early 90s as their lunch break, and let the Soviet Republics that weren't full of mostly white people (like Estonia or Lithuania) fend for themselves. As a result was the formation of new cooperative economic agreements between Russia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and the other neighbors. They depend on eachother, and the CIS in turn depends on the EU. And vice versa.
Countries like Georgia and the Baltic Republics were excluded either immediately or shortly after or refused to participate. That's why their economic standing is radically different.
And into potential Baltic trouble spots. Whee.
But no, their reasoning makes sense. Though if it'll stop the rapid shrinking of the Baltic Republic's economies by itself is another matter. And competition is still fierce.
More on topic, Pres. Medvedev's letter to Bronislaw Komorowski (acting President of Poland?) has been translated finally. For some reason, a lot of the translations seem to suck.
And, of course, people are wondering more and more how this'll effect the party rivalries in Warsaw, given that Kacyznski was an independent but made his career in the Polish right to some degree...
No, they have at least learned their lesson from the troubles with Ukraine so it will be an offshore pipeline once it leaves Russian soil and only surface once in Germany.
As for the political situation in Poland the main question is probably if this helps or hinders the PiS when it comes to regaining power, seeing as the BBC profile on Komorowski suggests he would defeat Kaczynski in the upcoming election.
Russia withdrew its fleet of Tu-154 not for safety concerns but because they weren't fuel economic (and they were on the louder side). The aircraft was overhauled in December, and it probably isn't too far to say that there wasn't a better-maintained Tu-154M in the Polish Air Force (or in Poland).
Add to the past incidents of pilot error/disagreements among the crew, and there seems to be more evidence in favor of this being the fault of the pilot. Of course, that's assuming that other investigations and inspections of the wreckage bring up the same response--which I do think they will.
A little TOO NEAT IF YOU ASK ME!!!
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9/11 Strikes Again!
That seems to be the bones of it yes.
Though reading some media coverage yesterday you'd be forgiven for thinking that Russian tanks were rolling into Warsaw....
TREEES DON'T CAUSE PLANES TO EXPLODE! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!
Fog or no fog, they should have been able to land based on instruments alone. Wtf happened? I assumed some kind of technical error (likely computational or false reading) and I read elsewhere that the pilot was pretty damn experienced.
It (for the most part) rules out a disastrous mechanical failure on the part of the aircraft itself, leaving pilot error or other human mishap.
I guess, technically, it doesn't rule out that someone caused the plane itself to explode via Soviet Death Ray gun (what, your country's air defense forces don't have one?) or the Count Chocula theory either.