I'm not gonna lie, the next time I go home to get my copies of Ruby and FireRed, I am probably gonna use this to get a Linoone and a Clefable with event moves. If it makes you super uncomfortable then I won't use them against you.
Then again, I might decide it's not worth the effort of replaying FireRed to re-set the Mimic and Seismic Toss tutors.
Thinking about it a bit more, I don't really care too much. If you're going to the effort of getting a gen III pokemon like that, (especially in fire-red where everstones don't work for breeding I think?), not passing any IVs using power items etc, it isn't really a huge deal.
Also if I wanted a specific poke, someone here would probably be able to hook me up.
Oh fuck everstones don't work in those ones?
Nevermind then.
looks like it works in emerald
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I'm not gonna lie, the next time I go home to get my copies of Ruby and FireRed, I am probably gonna use this to get a Linoone and a Clefable with event moves. If it makes you super uncomfortable then I won't use them against you.
Then again, I might decide it's not worth the effort of replaying FireRed to re-set the Mimic and Seismic Toss tutors.
Thinking about it a bit more, I don't really care too much. If you're going to the effort of getting a gen III pokemon like that, (especially in fire-red where everstones don't work for breeding I think?), not passing any IVs using power items etc, it isn't really a huge deal.
Also if I wanted a specific poke, someone here would probably be able to hook me up.
Doing this seriously would be done in Emerald, where manipulating the RNG is supposed to be crazy easy. So you're more likely to run into shiny, perfect IV, correct nature and ability pokemon from there, but now, they can have ANY MOVE IN THE GAME.
Also @ Speed:
I agree with you on Shoddy. I have it installed, because it's nice to test out things before committing to breeding it in game, but dear GOD. I can't even look at the general chat window, bunch of immature racist homophobic children. And your opponents ranged from "might as well be AI" to "complete goddamn prick." No nice people at all the be found. That, and the people on PA rock.
Alright, this water gym idea is complete crap. Makin' a new team.
What's a matter with it?
Torterra.
Torterra is wrong with it. 8-)
Que?
He knew from experience that I had a choice scarfer that could screw up his thing to set up rain dance, so he put a choice scarf on his thing too.
Later in the battle, he brought it out against torterra, presumably trying to scare if off with the threat of ice beam. I called his bluff and rock polished while he rain danced, and since he had a scarf he was forced to switch out, giving me another rock polish to make me faster than his swift swimmers. Then I swept like 3 or 4 of his guys after a long game of back-and-forth prior to that.
That's not exactly what happened but I'm trying to be vague in case he doesn't want stuff being given away.
I'm not gonna lie, the next time I go home to get my copies of Ruby and FireRed, I am probably gonna use this to get a Linoone and a Clefable with event moves. If it makes you super uncomfortable then I won't use them against you.
Then again, I might decide it's not worth the effort of replaying FireRed to re-set the Mimic and Seismic Toss tutors.
Thinking about it a bit more, I don't really care too much. If you're going to the effort of getting a gen III pokemon like that, (especially in fire-red where everstones don't work for breeding I think?), not passing any IVs using power items etc, it isn't really a huge deal.
Also if I wanted a specific poke, someone here would probably be able to hook me up.
Oh fuck everstones don't work in those ones?
Nevermind then.
looks like it works in emerald
Yeah but I don't have emerald, and I don't particularly want to buy it just for this.
Maybe if I can find it for like 10-15 bucks at Gamestop.
I'm not gonna lie, the next time I go home to get my copies of Ruby and FireRed, I am probably gonna use this to get a Linoone and a Clefable with event moves. If it makes you super uncomfortable then I won't use them against you.
Then again, I might decide it's not worth the effort of replaying FireRed to re-set the Mimic and Seismic Toss tutors.
Thinking about it a bit more, I don't really care too much. If you're going to the effort of getting a gen III pokemon like that, (especially in fire-red where everstones don't work for breeding I think?), not passing any IVs using power items etc, it isn't really a huge deal.
Also if I wanted a specific poke, someone here would probably be able to hook me up.
Doing this seriously would be done in Emerald, where manipulating the RNG is supposed to be crazy easy. So you're more likely to run into shiny, perfect IV, correct nature and ability pokemon from there, but now, they can have ANY MOVE IN THE GAME.
To be fair, I don't think anyone in these parts would do shit like that.
Alright, this water gym idea is complete crap. Makin' a new team.
What's a matter with it?
Torterra.
Torterra is wrong with it. 8-)
Que?
He knew from experience that I had a choice scarfer that could screw up his thing to set up rain dance, so he put a choice scarf on his thing too.
Later in the battle, he brought it out against torterra, presumably trying to scare if off with the threat of ice beam. I called his bluff and rock polished while he rain danced, and since he had a scarf he was forced to switch out, giving me another rock polish to make me faster than his swift swimmers. Then I swept like 3 or 4 of his guys after a long game of back-and-forth prior to that.
That's not exactly what happened but I'm trying to be vague in case he doesn't want stuff being given away.
You put a choice scarf on a 'motherfucker' to ensure a first turn sleep. Since you know that Starmie shakes off status on a switch, you then kept it out to sleep anything else I happen to switch to, which technically maintains sleep clause. And it's that sort of "technically within the rules" douchebaggery that I'm now raising a team of Munkus level badasses to slap harder than the slap monkey I just failed to assassinate.
Alright, this water gym idea is complete crap. Makin' a new team.
What's a matter with it?
Torterra.
Torterra is wrong with it. 8-)
Que?
He knew from experience that I had a choice scarfer that could screw up his thing to set up rain dance, so he put a choice scarf on his thing too.
Later in the battle, he brought it out against torterra, presumably trying to scare if off with the threat of ice beam. I called his bluff and rock polished while he rain danced, and since he had a scarf he was forced to switch out, giving me another rock polish to make me faster than his swift swimmers. Then I swept like 3 or 4 of his guys after a long game of back-and-forth prior to that.
That's not exactly what happened but I'm trying to be vague in case he doesn't want stuff being given away.
You put a choice scarf on a X to ensure a first turn sleep. Since you know that Starmie shakes off status on a switch, you then kept it out to sleep anything else I happen to switch to, which technically maintains sleep clause. And it's that sort of "technically within the rules" douchebaggery that I'm now raising a team of Munkus level badasses to slap harder than the slap monkey I just failed to assassinate.
Is there something wrong with using a sleep move in case a pokemon with Natural Cure switches out? I've never seen anyone upset about that. Also, Speed at least asked me to keep X under wraps, not sure if he asked you. I don't know that he's volunteered its identity here yet, though, so that was sort of poor form.
I don't really care if people know I have a Smeargle, it's the moveset that I'm trying to not tell people about yet. In like a week when almost everyone has fought it I won't care.
Alright, this water gym idea is complete crap. Makin' a new team.
What's a matter with it?
Torterra.
Torterra is wrong with it. 8-)
Que?
He knew from experience that I had a choice scarfer that could screw up his thing to set up rain dance, so he put a choice scarf on his thing too.
Later in the battle, he brought it out against torterra, presumably trying to scare if off with the threat of ice beam. I called his bluff and rock polished while he rain danced, and since he had a scarf he was forced to switch out, giving me another rock polish to make me faster than his swift swimmers. Then I swept like 3 or 4 of his guys after a long game of back-and-forth prior to that.
That's not exactly what happened but I'm trying to be vague in case he doesn't want stuff being given away.
You put a choice scarf on a X to ensure a first turn sleep. Since you know that Starmie shakes off status on a switch, you then kept it out to sleep anything else I happen to switch to, which technically maintains sleep clause. And it's that sort of "technically within the rules" douchebaggery that I'm now raising a team of Munkus level badasses to slap harder than the slap monkey I just failed to assassinate.
Is there something wrong with using a sleep move in case a pokemon with Natural Cure switches out? I've never seen anyone upset about that. Also, Speed at least asked me to keep X under wraps, not sure if he asked you. I don't know that he's volunteered its identity here yet, though.
The big issue is assuming it has natural cure. If it had illuminate instead due to lazy training or what have you, that breaks sleep clause in two turns.
Also didn't know it was a secret, sorry bout that.
I don't really see anything wrong with that sleep scenario. If the pokemon has natural cure then not being able to sleep it and something else would make the sleep pokemon to have out anyway. If the pokemon can cure itself on a switch, then you should definitely be allowed to sleep what comes out next.
I mean I don't use sleep very often but I've had it done to me and it's never been a concern. Part of running a team with a natural curer is being ready for something else to take the same effect.
e: And yeah if there's illuminate then you have an issue but who the fuck raises out a Starmie with Illuminate
The big issue is assuming it has natural cure. If it had illuminate instead due to lazy training or what have you, that breaks sleep clause in two turns.
Also didn't know it was a secret, sorry bout that.
You're right, the starmie could have illuminate. In which case, I'd simply concede immediately, and Munkus can attest I've done just that.
I don't really see anything wrong with that sleep scenario. If the pokemon has natural cure then not being able to sleep it and something else would make the sleep pokemon to have out anyway. If the pokemon can cure itself on a switch, then you should definitely be allowed to sleep what comes out next.
I mean I don't use sleep very often but I've had it done to me and it's never been a concern. Part of running a team with a natural curer is being ready for something else to take the same effect.
Part of my problem was that it'd sleep the Starmie, I'd be forced to switch out to some motherfucker I'd hope I'd never have to use, then switch back to Starmie only to be sleeped again instead of what should be a forced switch out.
I don't really see anything wrong with that sleep scenario. If the pokemon has natural cure then not being able to sleep it and something else would make the sleep pokemon to have out anyway. If the pokemon can cure itself on a switch, then you should definitely be allowed to sleep what comes out next.
I mean I don't use sleep very often but I've had it done to me and it's never been a concern. Part of running a team with a natural curer is being ready for something else to take the same effect.
Part of my problem was that it'd sleep the Starmie, I'd be forced to switch out to some motherfucker I'd hope I'd never have to use, then switch back to Starmie only to be sleeped again instead of what should be a forced switch out.
wait wait wait
if he sleeps Starmie
you switch, he sleeps that, you put starmie back out
unless your second pokemon had natural cure he can't sleep it so I'm confused as to what exactly the issue here would be.
or he just killed your second in which case yes that sucks but that's part of what makes battling real people who think about what they're doing such a pain in the ass
You have to look at the flipside, though. If I can't do that to your natural cure guy, then it completely breaks my ability to sleep you, which was obviously a major component of my strategy. Because every time Smeargle hits the field you can just switch to Starmie then switch to something else.
You engineered two shinies with a perfect HP Fighting just to beat my Ambipom; I think it's safe to assume you spent the time to make sure your Starmie had Natural Cure. Especially since it was shiny, which means it was either caught that way and just happened to have the right nature and usable IVs (the odds of which are pretty dang staggering), or you RNG'd it, in which case of course it has Natural Cure.
Still, if you turned out to not have natural cure, I'd have either set something up to let you kill Smeargle for free or just conceded outright.
I don't really see anything wrong with that sleep scenario. If the pokemon has natural cure then not being able to sleep it and something else would make the sleep pokemon to have out anyway. If the pokemon can cure itself on a switch, then you should definitely be allowed to sleep what comes out next.
I mean I don't use sleep very often but I've had it done to me and it's never been a concern. Part of running a team with a natural curer is being ready for something else to take the same effect.
Part of my problem was that it'd sleep the Starmie, I'd be forced to switch out to some motherfucker I'd hope I'd never have to use, then switch back to Starmie only to be sleeped again instead of what should be a forced switch out.
wait wait wait
if he sleeps Starmie
you switch, he sleeps that, you put starmie back out
unless your second pokemon had natural cure he can't sleep it so I'm confused as to what exactly the issue here would be.
or he just killed your second in which case yes that sucks but that's part of what makes battling real people who think about what they're doing such a pain in the ass
Pretty sure I had two dudes sleeping at once at some point. Either way, new team is about ready as I feel like reviving a good gimmick.
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I don't really see anything wrong with that sleep scenario. If the pokemon has natural cure then not being able to sleep it and something else would make the sleep pokemon to have out anyway. If the pokemon can cure itself on a switch, then you should definitely be allowed to sleep what comes out next.
I mean I don't use sleep very often but I've had it done to me and it's never been a concern. Part of running a team with a natural curer is being ready for something else to take the same effect.
Part of my problem was that it'd sleep the Starmie, I'd be forced to switch out to some motherfucker I'd hope I'd never have to use, then switch back to Starmie only to be sleeped again instead of what should be a forced switch out.
wait wait wait
if he sleeps Starmie
you switch, he sleeps that, you put starmie back out
unless your second pokemon had natural cure he can't sleep it so I'm confused as to what exactly the issue here would be.
or he just killed your second in which case yes that sucks but that's part of what makes battling real people who think about what they're doing such a pain in the ass
Pretty sure I had two dudes sleeping at once at some point. Either way, new team is about ready as I feel like reviving a good gimmick.
I never broke Sleep Clause. Starmie isn't asleep after you call him back; you can see that his Pokeball's not red on your team status bar even.
I don't really see anything wrong with that sleep scenario. If the pokemon has natural cure then not being able to sleep it and something else would make the sleep pokemon to have out anyway. If the pokemon can cure itself on a switch, then you should definitely be allowed to sleep what comes out next.
I mean I don't use sleep very often but I've had it done to me and it's never been a concern. Part of running a team with a natural curer is being ready for something else to take the same effect.
Part of my problem was that it'd sleep the Starmie, I'd be forced to switch out to some motherfucker I'd hope I'd never have to use, then switch back to Starmie only to be sleeped again instead of what should be a forced switch out.
wait wait wait
if he sleeps Starmie
you switch, he sleeps that, you put starmie back out
unless your second pokemon had natural cure he can't sleep it so I'm confused as to what exactly the issue here would be.
or he just killed your second in which case yes that sucks but that's part of what makes battling real people who think about what they're doing such a pain in the ass
Pretty sure I had two dudes sleeping at once at some point. Either way, new team is about ready as I feel like reviving a good gimmick.
I never broke Sleep Clause. Starmie isn't asleep after you call him back; you can see that his Pokeball's not red on your team status bar even.
Well then congrads on your water badge. Now beat Munkus so our rematch can be epic as hell.
Hey, the first tournament is pretty enjoyable, especially when Krabby, who was barely in the series up to that point, shows up and evolves and JUST DESTROYS Ash's first opponent.
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looks like it works in emerald
Doing this seriously would be done in Emerald, where manipulating the RNG is supposed to be crazy easy. So you're more likely to run into shiny, perfect IV, correct nature and ability pokemon from there, but now, they can have ANY MOVE IN THE GAME.
Also @ Speed:
I agree with you on Shoddy. I have it installed, because it's nice to test out things before committing to breeding it in game, but dear GOD. I can't even look at the general chat window, bunch of immature racist homophobic children. And your opponents ranged from "might as well be AI" to "complete goddamn prick." No nice people at all the be found. That, and the people on PA rock.
He knew from experience that I had a choice scarfer that could screw up his thing to set up rain dance, so he put a choice scarf on his thing too.
Later in the battle, he brought it out against torterra, presumably trying to scare if off with the threat of ice beam. I called his bluff and rock polished while he rain danced, and since he had a scarf he was forced to switch out, giving me another rock polish to make me faster than his swift swimmers. Then I swept like 3 or 4 of his guys after a long game of back-and-forth prior to that.
That's not exactly what happened but I'm trying to be vague in case he doesn't want stuff being given away.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Yeah but I don't have emerald, and I don't particularly want to buy it just for this.
Maybe if I can find it for like 10-15 bucks at Gamestop.
To be fair, I don't think anyone in these parts would do shit like that.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
The Chimchar and Turtwig have perfect attack IVs, by the way.
good to know
You put a choice scarf on a 'motherfucker' to ensure a first turn sleep. Since you know that Starmie shakes off status on a switch, you then kept it out to sleep anything else I happen to switch to, which technically maintains sleep clause. And it's that sort of "technically within the rules" douchebaggery that I'm now raising a team of Munkus level badasses to slap harder than the slap monkey I just failed to assassinate.
Speakin' of which, "MonkeyNews" is ready.
And thanks for revealing something I'm trying to keep fairly secretive for now, dude. That was super of you!
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Is there something wrong with using a sleep move in case a pokemon with Natural Cure switches out? I've never seen anyone upset about that. Also, Speed at least asked me to keep X under wraps, not sure if he asked you. I don't know that he's volunteered its identity here yet, though, so that was sort of poor form.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
The big issue is assuming it has natural cure. If it had illuminate instead due to lazy training or what have you, that breaks sleep clause in two turns.
Also didn't know it was a secret, sorry bout that.
I mean I don't use sleep very often but I've had it done to me and it's never been a concern. Part of running a team with a natural curer is being ready for something else to take the same effect.
e: And yeah if there's illuminate then you have an issue but who the fuck raises out a Starmie with Illuminate
You're right, the starmie could have illuminate. In which case, I'd simply concede immediately, and Munkus can attest I've done just that.
Part of my problem was that it'd sleep the Starmie, I'd be forced to switch out to some motherfucker I'd hope I'd never have to use, then switch back to Starmie only to be sleeped again instead of what should be a forced switch out.
wait wait wait
if he sleeps Starmie
you switch, he sleeps that, you put starmie back out
unless your second pokemon had natural cure he can't sleep it so I'm confused as to what exactly the issue here would be.
or he just killed your second in which case yes that sucks but that's part of what makes battling real people who think about what they're doing such a pain in the ass
You engineered two shinies with a perfect HP Fighting just to beat my Ambipom; I think it's safe to assume you spent the time to make sure your Starmie had Natural Cure. Especially since it was shiny, which means it was either caught that way and just happened to have the right nature and usable IVs (the odds of which are pretty dang staggering), or you RNG'd it, in which case of course it has Natural Cure.
Still, if you turned out to not have natural cure, I'd have either set something up to let you kill Smeargle for free or just conceded outright.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
Pretty sure I had two dudes sleeping at once at some point. Either way, new team is about ready as I feel like reviving a good gimmick.
I never broke Sleep Clause. Starmie isn't asleep after you call him back; you can see that his Pokeball's not red on your team status bar even.
http://www.audioentropy.com/
I should have my final team done by the end of the week. My awesome team of pokemon I just enjoy.
3DS: 2981-5304-3227
Well then congrads on your water badge. Now beat Munkus so our rematch can be epic as hell.
the thing is though is that ditto gets basically a free choice scarf in quick powder
so that combined with any move in the game could be a pretty big nuisance if not an actual threat
It's not really new, just an old lead with new moves and a three year old glass cannon.
And it's now ready for testing. Who's up?
I'll go up against this team!
Hopefully I can work this combo.
See Manti it's not my fault!
http://www.audioentropy.com/
don't think I can take anymore
not that it's bad or anything
Did a marathon once and got halfway through the Orange Island stuff before I was like okay, that's good.
Is that a good nickname, or a horrible one?
some of it is really bad
it's a pretty hit or miss show for the first season and a half and then it's just bad.
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