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Things that Joss Whedon sucks in the movies.

Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User
edited April 2010 in Social Entropy++
So this guy:

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Is directing The Avengers movie.

If you think this is a good thing, I'm going to need you to back it up with some evidence.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm fine with that.

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I don't like the sounds of this at all

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  • Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User
    edited April 2010
    I just can't shake the feeling that the Avengers movie is now going the way of the X-men Origins movie and it's just going to be another franchise thrown under the bus in an attempt to squeeze more blood from the superhero turnip.

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I would posit that there could be worse things.

  • existexist Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I just can't shake the feeling that the Avengers movie is now going the way of the X-men Origins movie and it's just going to be another franchise thrown under the bus in an attempt to squeeze more blood from the superhero turnip.

    why

    x-men origins and this movie are by completely different people

    and whedon has done some fine stuff (firefly, dr. horrible, serenity, astonishing x-men)

    this is kind of a dumb thread

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I just can't shake the feeling that the Avengers movie is now going the way of the X-men Origins movie and it's just going to be another franchise thrown under the bus in an attempt to squeeze more blood from the superhero turnip.

    but x-men origins tried to inorganically cram mutants into the story, and this is about a superhero team that is supposed to be a superhero team

    so pretty different

    and also he's only directed one movie?

  • Frank BrakFrank Brak Registered User
    edited April 2010
    the one thing I have to say about Joss Whedon is that he looks like an overgrown toddler

    I think his work reflects this

  • thanimationsthanimations Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    the only movies I know about Whedon is that Firefly movie I didn't see, and Toy Story

    so why are we freaking out?

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Frank Brak wrote: »
    the one thing I have to say about Joss Whedon is that he looks like an overgrown toddler

    I think his work reflects this

    That dosn't even make sense.

  • FishmanFishman I find your lack of imperial stormtroopers disturbingRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Whedon's strength seems to be snappy dialogue and developing interpersonal relations in an ensemble cast environment.

    So I fail to see any conflict with him directing a comic super-team movie.

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  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Fishman wrote: »
    Whedon's strength seems to be snappy dialogue and developing interpersonal relations in an ensemble cast environment.

    So I fail to see any conflict with him directing a comic super-team movie.

    100% this.

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  • BorommakotBorommakot Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I know his Astonishing X-Men run back in the day was fairly good, a good balance of explosions with character development with a team of characters.

  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    bongi wrote: »
    i submit

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    Holy sweet son of a bitch he did that? He did that to all of us?

    Fuck this Whedon guy.

  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    he's also never directed someone else's writing

    i mean there's a good chance it'll be terrible, but i think that'll be more zak penn's doing

  • edited April 2010
    Hobnail wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »
    i submit

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    Holy sweet son of a bitch he did that? He did that to all of us?

    Fuck this Whedon guy.

    well, he wrote it

    it was actually directed by this guy

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    which is really even more astonishing that is was so bad

  • Frank BrakFrank Brak Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Hobnail wrote: »
    Frank Brak wrote: »
    the one thing I have to say about Joss Whedon is that he looks like an overgrown toddler

    I think his work reflects this

    That dosn't even make sense.


    I once heard him describe his creative process by saying the phrase, "it ends in a sword fight because there HAS TO BE a sword fight" as if he was 5 and playing with action figures


    I don't think his work is bad or anything, just saying Whedon's an overgrown toddler

  • KoshianKoshian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    bongi wrote: »
    i submit

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    I thought this was the butt thread for a second and was like "dang this is pretty much the exact opposite of what he asked for"

  • BorommakotBorommakot Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I think he wrote the intial draft and then they made serious changes to it.

  • Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User
    edited April 2010
    exist wrote: »
    I just can't shake the feeling that the Avengers movie is now going the way of the X-men Origins movie and it's just going to be another franchise thrown under the bus in an attempt to squeeze more blood from the superhero turnip.

    why

    x-men origins and this movie are by completely different people

    and whedon has done some fine stuff (firefly, dr. horrible, serenity, astonishing x-men)

    this is kind of a dumb thread

    The only feature film he's ever directed was Serenity, which was okay, but only if you liked/had seen Firefly, it really didn't stand on its own and it flopped, financially speaking.

    His directing has never been anything more than mediocre and he has no experience directing anything that he himself hasn't written. On top of all that, while his concepts are cool, and his over-arching stories are usually pretty enticing, his dialog writing is always trying way too hard to be "nerdy" or whatever and it honestly hard to listen to a lot of the time.

    So why is it squeezing blood from a turnip? Why would you get Joss Whedon, someone with absolutely no credentials as a director, to direct something of this scope, when you have proven directors already on your team like Jon Favreau and Louis Leterrier? Hell for enough money, I bet Sam Raimi would have done it. But none of them have the same kind of geek cred that Whedon does, and they know that no matter how shitty the movie is, his multitudes of fanboys will be there, opening day, tossing out fliff like sultans. Sure I'm being cynical about this, but there is absolutely no evidence that he will do a good job with this, but yet, you have people saying that because he's on board "God exists." It's pretty retarded.

    tl;dr: I'm nerd-ragin' over here.

  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Borommakot wrote: »
    I think he wrote the intial draft and then they made serious changes to it.
    This is the case with every movie script Whedon wrote except for Serenity's

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  • FramlingFramling Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I was more upset when I found out Joss Whedon was doing an Avengers MOVIE, and not an Avengers COMIC.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    There was no evidence Favreau was going to do a good job with Iron Man unless you made some kind of magical fucking leap from Elf to "Hey this guy could do a superhero movie"

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  • JordynJordyn Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I saw Serenity without having ever heard of Firefly and I enjoyed it.

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  • DarricDarric Santa MonicaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Framling wrote: »
    I was more upset when I found out Joss Whedon was doing an Avengers MOVIE, and not an Avengers COMIC.

    yes. he's so much better at writing comics

    him and kevin smith need to quit their lucrative jobs as shitty directors and just write comics

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  • FramlingFramling Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    exist wrote: »
    I just can't shake the feeling that the Avengers movie is now going the way of the X-men Origins movie and it's just going to be another franchise thrown under the bus in an attempt to squeeze more blood from the superhero turnip.

    why

    x-men origins and this movie are by completely different people

    and whedon has done some fine stuff (firefly, dr. horrible, serenity, astonishing x-men)

    this is kind of a dumb thread

    The only feature film he's ever directed was Serenity, which was okay, but only if you liked/had seen Firefly, it really didn't stand on its own and it flopped, financially speaking.

    His directing has never been anything more than mediocre and he has no experience directing anything that he himself hasn't written. On top of all that, while his concepts are cool, and his over-arching stories are usually pretty enticing, his dialog writing is always trying way too hard to be "nerdy" or whatever and it honestly hard to listen to a lot of the time.

    So why is it squeezing blood from a turnip? Why would you get Joss Whedon, someone with absolutely no credentials as a director, to direct something of this scope, when you have proven directors already on your team like Jon Favreau and Louis Leterrier? Hell for enough money, I bet Sam Raimi would have done it. But none of them have the same kind of geek cred that Whedon does, and they know that no matter how shitty the movie is, his multitudes of fanboys will be there, opening day, tossing out fliff like sultans. Sure I'm being cynical about this, but there is absolutely no evidence that he will do a good job with this, but yet, you have people saying that because he's on board "God exists." It's pretty retarded.

    tl;dr: I'm nerd-ragin' over here.

    I don't know, I'd never seen Firefly, and Serenity got me to buy the DVDs and watch the hell out of them.

    Considering the #1 thing the industry needs that isn't happening is for movie interest to translate into source material interest, maybe he's exactly the man for the job.

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  • JordynJordyn Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Also, they hardly need to have Joss Whedon direct it to have hoards of nerds flock to an Avengers movie.

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  • edited April 2010
    Joss Whedon's writing has always struck me as very American

  • BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I know far too many girls that own every single buffy the vampire slayer box set.

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Look at this fuck wizard right hereRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    He's not writing it anyway

  • scrivenerjonesscrivenerjones Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    joss whedon: literally the worst

  • BugBoyBugBoy once a boy always a bugRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I've been listening to Dr. Horrible far too much recently.

    It's so good!

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  • TLHTLH Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    bongi wrote: »

    well, he wrote it

    it was actually directed by this guy

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    which is really even more astonishing that is was so bad

    That surprises me more even, cause Micmacs looks pretty damn interesting.

    As for Whedon. The worst part of this is imagining all this guys fans then claiming Avengers for themselves. Cause he has a weird group of followers that annoy me more then his overall shitbox run of films. Toy Story excluded.

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  • satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    people all over the internet are mad about this but they also all seem to think he's writing it

    which he's not

  • Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Furu wrote: »
    There was no evidence Favreau was going to do a good job with Iron Man unless you made some kind of magical fucking leap from Elf to "Hey this guy could do a superhero movie"

    This is a good point, but with something like Elf, it's always clear that a director is just trying to get his foot in the door by directing whatever a studio will give him. I still considered him a no name director when news of Ironman rolled around.

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Look at this fuck wizard right hereRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    TLH wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »

    well, he wrote it

    it was actually directed by this guy

    amelie.jpgwhich is really even more astonishing that is was so bad

    That surprises me more even, cause Micmacs looks pretty damn interesting.

    As for Whedon. The worst part of this is imagining all this guys fans then claiming Avengers for themselves. Cause he has a weird group of followers that annoy me more then his overall shitbox run of films. Toy Story excluded.

    What the hell difference does it make who "claims" the Avengers?

    Do you like it? Do you not like it? These are the only important things

  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    there are worse directors for this

    like Brett Ratner

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User
    edited April 2010
    this guy has a stupid name

    do not ask for whom the snerd tolls
  • AntimatterAntimatter if you want to talk to me look elsewhere.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The Avengers: A Michael Bay Film

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