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Actually, he is art.
i feel like this wouldn't be nearly as hilarious without the man walking away in the background.
where's that from?
Not exactly but they must apply the "obscenity" test which says the subject must not have any artistic value. If it does, it can't be "obscene" and therefore can't be censored.
oh my god you are so fucking wroooooooong
Pretty sure this is an example of the latter.
wooooooooooooo
Look argue all you want that video games are art and art is subjective. Video games are not conceptual art. At all. At all.
it is "the golden bull fart"
http://www.dailyartpress.com/2009/10/emergency-exit-golden-bull-fart-art-by.html
The concept is the rules defining gameplay. The execution is such a perfunctory affair that it is executed by machines millions of times per second. The idea has literally become a machine that creates art. What part of this could you have a problem with? There's so little room to disagree.
Also today I am on vacation.
where do you draw the line? Is the baseball rulebook conceptual art? Are the rules to Snakes & Ladders?
I have no idea if saying this here actually influences the decision process, but I figure it certainly doesn't hurt, either.
Because in terms of conceptual art, the concept would have to take precedence over aesthetics/gameplay and a finished product. This is not true of the majority of video games. That and I don't think you can attribute "the rules defining gameplay" to concept as it pertains to conceptual art.
well why not food as a collection of ingredients
D&D is performance art performed for the participants. As a set of rules for the performance, the gamebook is art as well.
The problem Ebert has is confusing "finding something interesting" and "finding something to be art". Not all art is going to interest everybody. But it's still going to go right on being art.
It is a concept yes. And a very important one. But it is not the concept as it pertains to conceptual art.
The performers/participants do not equal the audience. And even if they were, the game is still a game. It could be the method of performance but inherently it is not performance art.
Even if it wasn't performance art, it would still be collaborative story-telling, which would also be art.
I agree, why not?
Is a fantastic chef not an artist?
Sweeeet.
And now you can all relax, because I know you have been holding your breath waiting for me, the person you have never heard of, to give my opinion
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the colorist for Bone is doing Lookouts
...I'll be in my bunk
i win at the following fairly consistently:
street fighter
modern warfare 2
risk
backgammon
tekken
candy land
are you suggesting that i am a) not winning or b) that the preceding are not games
OK, now I "get it", man.
wasn't bone in black and white