Bad Company 2: Bad is the new Good- New Patch notes in OP

Warcry

CarbonFire wrote: »

Warcry wrote: »

No flares on the Apache either. Someone has been lying. Get in the angry dome, we'll test the 'being traced so you get flares' thing.

Maybe it's VAlt-Fire? Like I said, it's been a long time since I've even tried it.
If it IS Alt Fire, then flares would be limited to the Blackhawk.

Tried it. Didn't work. I tried V Smoke and V alt on everything. I even tried Armour.

ofthefountain wrote: »

Significantly increased the speed of the Tracer Dart projectile to make it more effective against airborne targets.

Can someone that has tried the new tracer tell me how much faster it is now?

Four times as fast. Literally.

Also, the Uzi is better than the PP 2000 due to the minimal recoil. Shit is awesome.

grambo

ofthefountain wrote: »

Significantly increased the speed of the Tracer Dart projectile to make it more effective against airborne targets.

Can someone that has tried the new tracer tell me how much faster it is now?

4x speed buff apparently.

Winnie The Pooh

So they nerfed alot of the things that previously killed me and buffed my Abakan? Alright then.

Goomba just has to promise not to yell at me when I use it.

ofthefountain

Thanks guys, I guess it's time to go back to tracers instead of 1911 when I'm an engie then.

CarbonFire

Winnie The Pooh wrote: »

So they nerfed alot of the things that previously killed me and buffed my Abakan? Alright then.

Goomba just has to promise not to yell at me when I use it.

It's ok, there are plenty of other things we can kill you with :}

cmsamo

I am "special"....

How the hell do I use the xbox360 PA Metatag that I always see mentioned?

My tag is Damoven for anyone who wants a game or 2

Muramasa18

Man, there's little more satisfying than playing against a group of people who are worse at the game than you. Tearin' those kids UP.

Sigtyr

I wonder what the chances of attackers winning on Isla Innocentas is now?

Since with the tracer dart buff, Blackhawks are going to be shot down in a matter of seconds.

Zen Vulgarity

Gonna use the Type 88 til I make it love me

Pajama_Man

tinwhiskers wrote: »

Pajama_Man wrote: »

The overall class changes are nice.

I'm a little irked by the change they made to the bolt action sniper's minimum damage range though. It kind of throws out the little bit of uniqueness that they had between them.

Oh well. All things considered, the SV-98 got a range buff :mrgreen:

what did they actually do?

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

The r7 changes are near the bottom. The chart is updated. If you want to see the old chart just use google's cache.

Zen Vulgarity

Horrible Browser not as Horrible anymore guy

Robman

Sirs I shall not bear insults to my good word and honour

I demand satisfaction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcld3lAMYqs

(@5:00)

Warcry

Tried every concievable combo of vehicle and specialization, including getting a pubbie to trace and lock onto me. Nothing. No flares at all. If someone can figure out how to do this shit, post it here.

wusoldjr

Zen Vulgarity wrote: »

Gonna use the Type 88 til I make it love me

I love the Type 88 with the 4x scope. Jumping in the fray, dropping danger close mortar strikes > *

Robman

Sigtyr wrote: »

I wonder what the chances of attackers winning on Isla Innocentas is now?

Since with the tracer dart buff, Blackhawks are going to be shot down in a matter of seconds.

Nope, since VSmoke gives you flares the Blackhawk is still A OK.

The annoying bit though is for the attack Helos, since with the flare buff you're insane to not take the VSmoke as a pilot (and in general, really), making the VAlt Weapons pretty much useless unless it's a pubstomp.

Warcry

Looks like this game just went up the tactical meter by about eleven notches. This is pretty awesome.

Yall

cmsamo wrote: »

I am "special"....

How the hell do I use the xbox360 PA Metatag that I always see mentioned?

My tag is Damoven for anyone who wants a game or 2

You need to send a friend request first, then once it is accepted (which it may not be - I'm not sure who actually manages it) you can go to the gamercard for the metatag, and see which people on its friends list are actively playing.

Goomba

I think what happens is that there's no visual indication or anything, the dart just goes away.

edit: Also hahah dang SV98 is now best sniper rifle even harder.

tinwhiskers

Pajama_Man wrote: »

tinwhiskers wrote: »

Pajama_Man wrote: »

The overall class changes are nice.

I'm a little irked by the change they made to the bolt action sniper's minimum damage range though. It kind of throws out the little bit of uniqueness that they had between them.

Oh well. All things considered, the SV-98 got a range buff :mrgreen:

what did they actually do?

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

The r7 changes are near the bottom. The chart is updated. If you want to see the old chart just use google's cache.

So If I'm reading that right, sniper rifles are now even worse at killing people at long ranges than before vis a vi LMGs & ARs?, and no more 1 shot kills out to 40 yards with the m95?

SoundsPlush

Okay, so flares work, that's cool, and you can see it, per that video. Only one problem remains.

It takes 20 seconds to reload the smoke package.

It takes 3 seconds to reload a tracer dart.

D:

That_Guy

I am going to play this so hard when I get home from work. It is another short day so I had better see Rak and the other stoners on there when I get home at around 7:30 estern.

mere_immortal

How big is this damn patch?

fsmith1

Well, I'm about to hop on and try out the new patch. Wish me luck.

Robman

mere_immortal wrote: »

How big is this damn patch?

Steam updated it painlessly for me

UPDATE RE FLARES

I can't get them to work in a server by myself (VSmoke enabled!), I guess it requires a hostile missile lock before you can fire them?

Also, it's good that the flares don't make you immune, since vehicles are supposed to support the ground troops rather then just indiscriminately rape faces. This just means that you have a fighting chance 1 on 1 with an engineer.

Beltaine

I hit up the Dr. Pepper site and my codes just said they were unlocks for Mass Effect 2. Didn't see anything for Bad Company 2, although Battlefield Heroes was listed.

Malkor

Beltaine wrote: »

I hit up the Dr. Pepper site and my codes just said they were unlocks for Mass Effect 2. Didn't see anything for Bad Company 2, although Battlefield Heroes was listed.

suuucckkkaaaaaaaa

I actually like Dr. Pepper, so I don't mind buying it, but I'd like my unlocks too!

SoundsPlush

That's pretty normal, since they're not out yet.

The kit upgrades will also be coming to PS3 and PC a little later on, we’ll post the exact release dates here as soon as we can.

fsmith1

Well, my first impressions from a short game are as follows.

The M16 has not really been nerfed, it's still just as deadly with magnum ammo.
The Abakan is a bit better, but it's barely noticeable.
The T88 LMG is no longer useless, it's actually like a PKM with 200 rounds in the belt instead of 100. It's looking like this might be my new LMG of choice, though I've yet to try the MG36 or the XM8 LMG.
The sniper "nerf" sounds bad, but really the snipers have not even taken a hit to effectiveness (provided you always aim for the head as you should)
All the bolt actions are pretty much identical now aside from feel and sights.

Masume

Finallyyyy, a patch! Looks good all around. The changes to medics were needed something fierce! Curious as to how much this affects the CG, although from the looks of the stats, not too much...basically they toned down the biggest issue.

Goomba

From 2.7 to 1.8 kill radius.

Which is like 3.7 to 2.9 explosivemk2 radius.

CarbonFire

Edit: Nevermind, was looking at damage vs range.

Goomba

CarbonFire wrote: »

how does 1.8 X 1.25 = 2.9???

8 (the maximum damage radius) - 1.8 = 6.2. 100 / 6.2 = 16.12903225806452. 20 / 16.12903225806452 = 1.24. 1.7 + 1.24 = 2.9.

20 comes from 100 - 80, since 20% of 80 is 20, which is 100, which is a kill.

So I guess it's more like 3m because it's actually 1.8 and not 1.7, but still.

edit: STILL EXPLAININ' IT

Masume

Now the real question is, will the changes make people use something other than the M1911, and will it be worth it?

The CG still looks meaty, simply no more mass killings from the radius. Granted, your behind a wall and your still screwed.

Rage

Please bear in mind that DICE has an established history of not actually changing things in the game, even when they said they made a change. It would not surprise me in the least if there are some red herrings in that list of weapon tweaks.

Perception is reality I suppose...

I'm most excited about 3 motion balls + faster re-stocking from ammo crates. So good.

Goomba

All of the pistols, at least THEORYCRAFYINGLY SPEAKING, appear to be balanced. Even the M93r.

CarbonFire

I wonder why the felt the need to nerf V-Reload. I never felt it was that powerful to begin with, especially for ground vehicles. I guess maybe with the attack chopper gunner position it was a bit strong, but choppers are all but screwed now with the much faster tracer dart so :3

Mechanical

Doesn't actually seem like anything's different on the 360 end. Guess the update was something else?

Robman

Mechanical wrote: »

Doesn't actually seem like anything's different on the 360 end. Guess the update was something else?

360/PS3 patches are still in the pipe

Hawk

mere_immortal wrote: »

How big is this damn patch?

Steam said 349MB (and some change)

Mechanical

Robman wrote: »

Mechanical wrote: »

Doesn't actually seem like anything's different on the 360 end. Guess the update was something else?

360/PS3 patches are still in the pipe

So the update was simply for the store, then. Huh. Oh well.