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[Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition] PC version ETA Nov 30

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    Like Korodullin said, you need him for 2/3rds of the game to buy and sell to.

    So I guess maybe you'd gank him during Chapter 7? What does he drop anyway, a knave's robe and a staff?

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    An Adventurer's Robe, a plain quarterstaff, and two potions: one Restoration and one Fire Resistance.

    And a pittance of gold.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    He doesn't speak to me with reverance. He gets the chop.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    ...yeah, definitely not worth killing over.

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  • RizziRizzi Registered User regular
    I have a save from before I chopped him in to ribbons. I'll just load that one. :P

  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    DaivgPjb

    And this is why I rolled an Assassin. That was the first and only hit landed on him.

    Edit: Firkraag is proving... problematic.

    Edit2: Firkraag's dead! Though there were some...

    Spoiler:

    ...complications.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Windspear Hills (my horrible accent keeps making me pronounce it "Heels") finished, and that's pretty much it for Chapter 2.

    Spoiler:

    Rezzed my fallen and used the console to check my relationship status with Jaheira. Still active according to that, so that's good. Nobody leveled from the whole adventure, which kinda sucked, but a bunch of people are very close. Now, it's time to head off and finally do Chapter 3.


    And for the loot recap:
    Spoiler:

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    jaheira is pretty strong as long as you give her a str belt. she sucked in BG1 though, absolutely no weapon selection. then in tob you get to bust out stuff like whirlwind+slay living

  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    It's too bad the highest Strength Jaheira can ever achieve without short-duration buffs (or shorter-duration potions) in Item Revisions is 18 due to the way Strength belts were modified.

    She's still really good though.

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  • DemivrgvsDemivrgvs Registered User
    edited April 2012
    I believe Druids with IR are allowed to equip the dragon platemails, but since I kinda fudged up installing other mods to still allow Druids to wear helmets and shields, I'm not entirely sure. Some comfirmation would be good.
    Yep, within IR druids follow PnP rules and can wear even heavy armor as long as it's made of natural materials and not metal. So within IR they can wear all dragon armors, as well as ankheg plate and ashen scale armor.

    Furthermore, they cannot wear metal helmet and shield (I noticed you had concerns on this matter), but you can have Jaheira equip both Dragon helm and Dragon Scale Shield, not to mention there are wooden bucklers and light shields, as well as a specific druid-oriented shield you should have already found (reward from one Umar Hill's quest). When it comes to helmets instead the Dragon Helm one is the only non-metal one, but Ioun Stones are quite good imo (for Jaheira I'd suggest either Trueblood's one or the regenerating one, which is greatly improved within IR).
    It's too bad the highest Strength Jaheira can ever achieve without short-duration buffs (or shorter-duration potions) in Item Revisions is 18 due to the way Strength belts were modified.
    Try using SR's Strength of Stone, it's just a 1st lvl spell but can give her base STR 18/50 for 1 hour!

    BG1 Items
    @korodullin, I want to apology for the apparent lack of overall attention to BG1. I do tried to make items balanced even for BG1 (e.g. see Spider's Bane changes for example), but it's much harder there because even very lightly enchanted items that within BG2 you wouldn't even consider can be OP within BG1. Ages ago you complained about me putting Rift Hammer within BG1 (Bassilus), or that combining Cloak of the Wolf with IR's Vampire's Revenge removed the latter's drawback. Regarding the Hammer, it's as good as Varscona in theory (I just wanted to give at least 1 unique specimen for weapon type), but we do have a problem if it's really soo easily obtainable (I thought SCS was making it hard to get). Regarding the cursed sword instead I may simply increase the rate at which it drains wielder's hit points to be sure it's not so easily countered. Anyway, this is valid in general but even more for BG1, if you think an items is OP or broken just let me know (within my forums if possible, but I'll take a look here too from now on), nothing within Revisions mods is writen in stone and if you visited my forums you probably noticed that I like to involve players as much as I can in the making of them.


    P.S Still investigating on Death Knights, they work fine on my install so finding what's wrong on yours is difficult. We'll see.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    korodullin, tell me your dragon killing secrets because I am absolutely terrible at taking them on in bg2. absolutely terrible.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Arivia wrote: »
    So I decided to keep Viconia, but I'm still torn on Jaheira. It certainly didn't help that I misclicked and deep-sixed the romance by accident.

    I currently have: Keldorn, Mazzy, Aerie, Viconia, and a M/T protagonist. Problem is, if I replace Jaheira, who do I replace her with? Cernd is Cernd, Imoen is a third mage, and Anomen is bleh.

    Why is Jan Jansen not at your service?

    EDIT: And don't say, "Because Charname is a Mage/Thief." What kind of ridiculous answer is that?

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    Edwin, obviously. I didn't know there was such a thing as a BG2 party with no Edwin.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak Registered User regular
    Nice quick interview with Oster on the PAR, mostly about the iOS version: http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/baldurs-gate-on-the-ipad-omg

    iPad version will be $10, shooting for 1.1 GB, with a plan to release additional content.

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    Arivia wrote: »
    So I decided to keep Viconia, but I'm still torn on Jaheira. It certainly didn't help that I misclicked and deep-sixed the romance by accident.

    I currently have: Keldorn, Mazzy, Aerie, Viconia, and a M/T protagonist. Problem is, if I replace Jaheira, who do I replace her with? Cernd is Cernd, Imoen is a third mage, and Anomen is bleh.

    Why is Jan Jansen not at your service?

    EDIT: And don't say, "Because Charname is a Mage/Thief." What kind of ridiculous answer is that?

    Cause he pretty much bores the pants off me. Just doesn't interest me at all.

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  • Vi MonksVi Monks Registered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    So I decided to keep Viconia, but I'm still torn on Jaheira. It certainly didn't help that I misclicked and deep-sixed the romance by accident.

    I currently have: Keldorn, Mazzy, Aerie, Viconia, and a M/T protagonist. Problem is, if I replace Jaheira, who do I replace her with? Cernd is Cernd, Imoen is a third mage, and Anomen is bleh.

    Why is Jan Jansen not at your service?

    EDIT: And don't say, "Because Charname is a Mage/Thief." What kind of ridiculous answer is that?

    Cause he pretty much bores the pants off me. Just doesn't interest me at all.

    :shock:

  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    So I decided to keep Viconia, but I'm still torn on Jaheira. It certainly didn't help that I misclicked and deep-sixed the romance by accident.

    I currently have: Keldorn, Mazzy, Aerie, Viconia, and a M/T protagonist. Problem is, if I replace Jaheira, who do I replace her with? Cernd is Cernd, Imoen is a third mage, and Anomen is bleh.

    Why is Jan Jansen not at your service?

    EDIT: And don't say, "Because Charname is a Mage/Thief." What kind of ridiculous answer is that?

    Cause he pretty much bores the pants off me. Just doesn't interest me at all.

    ...what? Jan makes stories about turnips interesting. And he's an incredibly effective character, to boot.

    Gary Gygax wrote:
    ''The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules.''
  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Arivia wrote: »
    korodullin, tell me your dragon killing secrets because I am absolutely terrible at taking them on in bg2. absolutely terrible.

    most dragons really can be killed by hitting it with your weapons until about draconis. shadow dragon has to be dispelled, it casts protection from magical weapons. I've never noticed breach removing stoneskin on them, it doesn't work on everything(like demogorgon is immune to all spells lv5 and below)

    alternate method: sequencer with 2x lower resists and greater malasion, then cast finger of death

    don't plan on having keldorn and viconia in your party unless you have modded it. you might have noticed how keldron feels about drows when you meet viconia.

    Jars on
  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Demivrgvs wrote: »
    It's too bad the highest Strength Jaheira can ever achieve without short-duration buffs (or shorter-duration potions) in Item Revisions is 18 due to the way Strength belts were modified.
    Try using SR's Strength of Stone, it's just a 1st lvl spell but can give her base STR 18/50 for 1 hour!

    It also halves her movement rate and the only way to counter that is with Haste, since the Boots of Speed won't do anything. It's the main reason I don't use the spell.

    And as for the helmets, I think I used the Trueblood's stone on her last I played with IR, which wasn't bad I suppose. Also, I know it was mentioned in the IR feedback thread, but I'll repeat it here just for the sake of repeating it: the Dragon Helm's fire resistance is listed as 20% on the item's info card, but is only 10% in-game.

    @korodullin, I want to apology for the apparent lack of overall attention to BG1. I do tried to make items balanced even for BG1 (e.g. see Spider's Bane changes for example), but it's much harder there because even very lightly enchanted items that within BG2 you wouldn't even consider can be OP within BG1. Ages ago you complained about me putting Rift Hammer within BG1 (Bassilus), or that combining Cloak of the Wolf with IR's Vampire's Revenge removed the latter's drawback. Regarding the Hammer, it's as good as Varscona in theory (I just wanted to give at least 1 unique specimen for weapon type), but we do have a problem if it's really soo easily obtainable (I thought SCS was making it hard to get). Regarding the cursed sword instead I may simply increase the rate at which it drains wielder's hit points to be sure it's not so easily countered. Anyway, this is valid in general but even more for BG1, if you think an items is OP or broken just let me know (within my forums if possible, but I'll take a look here too from now on), nothing within Revisions mods is writen in stone and if you visited my forums you probably noticed that I like to involve players as much as I can in the making of them.

    @Demivrgvs I wouldn't apologize about BG1. Overall I was more or less pleased with how BG1's Item Revisions stuff turned out. Vampire's Revenge + Cloak of the Wolf was powerful, but it wasn't overpowered. Khalid could still easily die and he had absolutely no flexibility with regards to ranged attacking with it equipped, which is a huge drawback in a game that heavily favors bows all by itself. It mostly just kept him from having to chug a ton of healing potions and not die simply from crossing an area. I actually used the Cursed Sword of Berserking.

    As much as I hate to admit it, though, the Rift Hammer trivialized swaths of BG1. SCS's beefed-up Nashkel Mines with swarms of 30-40 kobolds? A single proc from the hammer could kill a dozen or more at a time. It was insanity. Bassilus still isn't all that tough with SCS even with Cleric prebuffs since the worst things he can really do are Unholy Blight and have the hammer's combat ability go off. I'm not sure what unique hammer you'd replace the Rift Hammer with, though. It trivializes BG1 but it's not anywhere close to overpowered in BG2. Wrath of Tyr maybe, even though its name is a little odd for the wielder? It still does around the same bonus damage as the Rift Hammer's combat ability, but against just a single target. It'd still be a really strong weapon, but it wouldn't be capable of killing so many enemies at once. I know a few fights in BG1, like the Iron Throne fight in Candlekeep, were made so simple by the shock wave hitting multiple enemies. It could put 2-3 named humans into close to Near Dead status, while the Wrath of Tyr would have to do it one at a time.

    On a personal note, though, I'd kill for a list of where Store Revisions moves a lot of stuff to in BG2. I'm pretty good at remembering to check some of the less-visited stores, but I'd have been kind of annoyed if I had played a Paladin or something and found out much later on that the Girdle of Beatification (which replaces one of the +STR belts) was only obtainable by Fighters who got the De'Arnise keep, since it's now on the Cleric of Tempus that you can bring in many weeks later.

    Arivia wrote: »
    korodullin, tell me your dragon killing secrets because I am absolutely terrible at taking them on in bg2. absolutely terrible.

    Make sure everyone is 90-100% protected against the dragon's breath no matter what. Even if you have to sacrifice spell slots for it, ensure they're protected - do not settle for 25-50% from a potion or item, as exemplified by Xan in my previous posts. The Shadow Dragon in the Umar Hills will kill a person who is not protected against its breath in one hit, guaranteed, even if they make their saves. Keep moving. Always keep everyone either moving or ready to move at a moment's notice, especially your mages. Have summons take the first hits if possible. If you can, mix a summon that's immune to the dragon's breath with something that isn't; Aerial Servants make fantastic second summons to send in. Don't try to tank the thing. Have a couple melee types dart in and out, getting in a few swings and move them out when they take too much damage and have them heal; the dragon will usually switch to a new target. Always have at least one person able to kite the thing using something like the Boots of Speed and keep them protected against whatever breath the dragon has, even if it means having to keep them out of most of the fight to avoid being dispelled. Archers aren't a terrible idea for this, but stealth-capable characters do much better since dragon AI will immediately turn around to focus on a backstabber. Lower their magic resistance. Do a Pierce Magic followed by a Lower Resistance spell. Doom and Greater Malison after that are significant aids too. Magic Missiles and lightning bolts fuck dragons up. Flame arrows too, if it's not Firkraag or another red dragon. As I mentioned in the recap, Insect Plague can also do wonders if you can land it.

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  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    So I decided to keep Viconia, but I'm still torn on Jaheira. It certainly didn't help that I misclicked and deep-sixed the romance by accident.

    I currently have: Keldorn, Mazzy, Aerie, Viconia, and a M/T protagonist. Problem is, if I replace Jaheira, who do I replace her with? Cernd is Cernd, Imoen is a third mage, and Anomen is bleh.

    Why is Jan Jansen not at your service?

    EDIT: And don't say, "Because Charname is a Mage/Thief." What kind of ridiculous answer is that?

    Cause he pretty much bores the pants off me. Just doesn't interest me at all.

    ...what? Jan makes stories about turnips interesting. And he's an incredibly effective character, to boot.

    Gary Gygax wrote:
    ''The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules.''
  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    Jan's brand of humor isn't for everyone. After this playthrough I'm probably going to put him on the backburner for future plays for a while, if only to avoid getting Jan'd-out, like I did with Minsc.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    dragons only breathe on people if no one is in melee range. space out to avoid getting hit by wing buffets and you should be able to keep someone in melee.

  • DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    Arivia wrote: »
    korodullin, tell me your dragon killing secrets because I am absolutely terrible at taking them on in bg2. absolutely terrible.

    most dragons really can be killed by hitting it with your weapons until about draconis. shadow dragon has to be dispelled, it casts protection from magical weapons. I've never noticed breach removing stoneskin on them, it doesn't work on everything(like demogorgon is immune to all spells lv5 and below)

    alternate method: sequencer with 2x lower resists and greater malasion, then cast finger of death

    don't plan on having keldorn and viconia in your party unless you have modded it. you might have noticed how keldron feels about drows when you meet viconia.

    When they named Draconis after my forum handle and I actually did the fight, I winced, because I knew that people were going to be instinctively pissed at me because he's a complete bastard. Invisible dragon? Really, guys?

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    dragons only breathe on people if no one is in melee range.

    Are you sure about that? Even in vanilla BG2 I seem to remember my melee people being breathed on. Dragons in SCS, though, will happily use their breath attack on any target they please. The Shadow Dragon used its breath on Mazzy even though Jaheira and Callic were right there in melee and one of the first things Firkraag does after his initial buffing Sequencer is to use his breath on whatever's meleeing him.

    At any rate, my advice was from the perspective of someone playing with SCS, but it still generally applies to normal BG2 though it'll likely be a bit of overpreparation.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    Yeah I'm fairly sure they don't breath on people in melee range. The problem you usually have is everyone getting slammed by wing buffet, stunned, and then breath attack spam.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    Chapter 3 completed. One of the shortest chapters, but very rich in XP and I managed to pad it out with a couple rewarding side trips.

    Spoiler:

    Either way, it's now off to Chapter 4, Brynnlaw, and Spellhold!


    Lots and lots of loot this time, mostly from Watcher's Keep:

    Spoiler:

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    Someone remind me what happens when you put 2 points in longswords, then dual class and put another 2 points in longswords before getting your old class levels back. They're just wasted right?

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I think they stack, but I could be wrong. I can test it really fast though.

    Edit: Nope, don't stack, and thus wasted.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    the funniest thing about draconis is that he's hasted; hasted dragons look hilarious in-engine

    iirc dragons have some special version of stoneskin that can't be breached off them, but a couple of dual wielders clear it quickly enough

    I just kept a sequencer around with breach/lower resistance/lower resistance. Hit a dragon with one or two of those and you can more or less just go to town on them.

    failing that you can always spam summoned monsters

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    also the everybody-hates-each-other party is the best of all possible parties;. I think like, Viconia/Keldorn/Edwin/Minsc/Aerie? I forget.

    Sure they all want to kill each other by chapter three, but by then you can kill a lot of things on your own anyway

    my only regret was that they didn't all pair off and fight tag team style

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    aerie doesn't fight anyone, but she will leave if you have korgan. pretty sure valygar will fight viconia.

    I liked the evil party with jaheira tagging along because she holds her own against them pretty well. add in jan/harry for additional antics

    Jars on
  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    korgan and mazzie are also pretty great, although I never found much reason to use mazzie

    I don't remember valygar and viconia fighting; I think he fights edwin thogh, right?

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    Jars wrote: »
    aerie doesn't fight anyone, but she will leave if you have korgan. pretty sure valygar will fight viconia.

    I liked the evil party with jaheira tagging along because she holds her own against them pretty well. add in jan/harry for additional antics

    Jaheira is pretty great, even if her harper subquests make me want to mail Bioware retroactively copies of FOR4 and Cloak and Dagger and staple them to the writer's head

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    Both Keldorn and Minsc will fight Edwin and I believe both Valygar and Keldorn will fight Viconia as well. I don't think anyone but Aerie has a problem with Korgan.

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  • ExtreaminatusExtreaminatus Registered User regular
    I was walking through the Bridge District with Keldorn and Viconia in my party about to go do the Twisted Rune fight (still chapter 2, it's not going to be fun). We fight a group of thugs that popped up, no big deal.

    Then, Keldorn had apparently had enough of Viconia's drow-ie-ness, because then he shouts something about it and proceeds to wreck her face, chunking her in the process. I laughed for so long about how random it seemed that I forgot to reload. Guess I'm going to dual class my Wizard Slayer to Cleric, now.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    So SCS apparently expects you to beat a lich in Spellhold with nothing but conjured +3 weapons and no gear. :|

    Edit: Haha nevermind, the Control Undead spell is AMAZING.

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  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    Rami wrote: »
    Yeah I'm fairly sure they don't breath on people in melee range.

    Yeah they do - mods might change that but by default they will certainly use their breath weapon in melee combat. One of my worst ever battles in BG2 started when that damn Silver Dragon decided to use her breath weapon (which has the ability to gib characters) on my party. I lost Korgan and Viconia (two melee characters) instantly and you can imagine the rest of the fight went just as badly. Amazingly, I still pulled out a win and then had to decide if I continued playing the game or reload like a giant pussy.

    I am nobodies giant pussy if you're wondering. I still finished that game and the expansion too. SUCK THAT DRAGON. But yes, Dragons CAN use their breath weapon in melee combat without doing a wing buffet first (which when I first played BG2 used to slow my computer to a whopping 2 FPS - ah the good old days).
    Spoiler:

  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    Aegeri wrote: »
    SUCK THAT DRAGON

    But...but he's so big.

    Punctuation matters to me, dammit!

  • AegeriAegeri Registered User regular
    Shadowen wrote: »
    Aegeri wrote: »
    SUCK THAT DRAGON

    But...but he's so big.

    Punctuation matters to me, dammit!

    It was never about the size to Korgan, it's about doing whatever I told him to do or we'd practice some more impromptu dwarf tossing.

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