NFL [FOOTBALL] - It BEGINS!!

clownfood

This is it...Let the retooling of your favorite NFL team begin. The time we sit in front of the TV or by the radio or glued to your closest internet capable device and play backseat GM.

Spew your venom, sing the praises of the moves made by the NFL front offices right here in this thread.

Round One Under the cut

Spoiler:

1. St. Louis (1-15) Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma

2. Detroit (2-14) Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska

3. Tampa Bay (3-13) Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma

4. Washington (4-12) Trent Williams T Oklahoma

5. Kansas City (4-12) Eric Berry S Tennessee

6. Seattle (5-11) Russell Okung T Oklahoma State

7. Cleveland (5-11) Joe Haden CB Florida

8. Oakland (5-11) Rolando McClain ILB Alabama

9. Buffalo (6-10) C.J. Spiller RB Clemson

10. Jacksonville (7-9) Tyson Alualu DT California

11. San Francisco (From Bears through Broncos) Anthony Davis T Rutgers

12. San Diego (7-9) (From Dolphins) Ryan Mathews RB Fresno State

13. Philly (From 49ers through Broncos) Brandon Graham DE Michigan

14. Seattle (From Broncos) Earl Thomas S Texas

15. New York Giants (8-8) Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida

16. Tennessee (8-8) Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech

17. San Francisco (From Panthers) Mike Iupati G Idaho

18. Pittsburgh (9-7) Maurkice Pouncey C Florida

19. Atlanta (9-7) Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri

20. Houston (9-7) Kareem Jackson CB Alabama

21. Cincinnati (10-6) Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma

22. Denver (From Patriots) Demaryius Thomas WR Georgia Tech

23. Green Bay (11-5) Bryan Bulaga T Iowa

24. Dallas (From Eagles through Broncos and Patriots) Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State

25. Denver (From Ravens) Tim Tebow QB Florida

26. Arizona (10-6) Dan Williams DT Tennessee

27. New England (From Dallas) Devin McCourty CB Rutgers

28. Miami (From San Diego) Jared Odrick DT Penn State

29. New York Jets (9-7) Kyle Wilson CB Boise State

30. Detroit (From Minnesota) Jahvid Best RB California

31. Indianapolis (14-2) Jerry Hughes OLB TCU

32. New Orleans (13-3) Patrick Robinson CB Florida State

In case you need to find out which PA fantasy football league you are slated to participate in, check spoiler below.

Spoiler:

visiblehowl wrote: »

Alright, so this was a bit complicated, but actually ended up working quite well!

First of all, you can find the google doc with all the info I used here:

D&D Fantasy Football 2010 - Interested Parties

It's divided into three sheets: Veterans, Newbies, and Recommended. Veterans and Newbies are self-explanatory, Recommended is what I'm recommending the rosters for each league be.

Okay, so first of all, we had 2 teams missing from Fear and Loathing (Elki didn't give his information, but I'm assuming he's interested and that he's Black September, which is probably racist of me), namely the Fighting Spaniels and the Dancing Dongeroos. This meant that clownfood, with the worst record in Fear and Loathing (sorry buddy), is the only one to drop down to RWNS. Frosteey, Junior Yank, and Simon Moon, with the best records in RWNS, move up to F&L, leaving us with the following F&L roster:

Spoiler:

BubbaT
FirstComradeStalin
Eat It. Eat it, You Nasty Pig.
Picardathon
dlinfiniti
gundam470
Elki
Frosteey
Junior Yank
Simon Moon

We had four teams missing from RWNS (PA 2006 Champs, Butterless, Soul Crushers, Hooligans), plus 3 teams moving up to Fear and Loathing, but clownfood moved to RWNS, leaving us with 6 openings. So I went through the new people, and 4 of them had either played in another league (SE++ or the homer league) or were in a league in previous years. I went ahead and put them in RWNS, bringing us to 10. Thus, my recommendation for RWNS is:

Spoiler:

visiblehowl
joemunkeh
fortis
ZeroCow
Peen
clownfood
Aridhol
Cauld
jkylefulton
Draeven

That left us with 12 new teams, which is perfect! So I put them in a new league:

Spoiler:

Tiger burning
lordswing
sportzboytjw
histronic
HooverFan
mrt144
Element Brian
Peccavi
Qonas
Vesty
precisionk
chaosbear

So, we have 3 draft leagues, with a total of 32 people. Crazy!

Only 8 people expressed specific interest in the auction league. I'd like to get to 10 or 12 teams because 8-team leagues suck, so the next 2 or 4 people who express interest in the auction league should get in. Priority will go to people who have already posted their info, but said "No Preference". The following people are already in the auction league:

Spoiler:

FirstComradeStalin
visiblehowl
joemunkeh
lordswing
mrt144
Qonas
Aridhol
ANTVGM64

If you have any serious issues with what I've recommended, let me know! I'm hardly the Arbiter of All Thing Fantasy Football. Also tell me if there is any information in the google doc that is incorrect.

enlightenedbum

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

iTunesIsEvil

I'm curious to see how the Colts do their drafting this year. Irsay got on the o-line after the SB loss, but then said that he didn't mean that they wanted to retool the line and draft for it.

I bet they still draft for the o-line first though. NFL.com has one of their guys expecting them to take Kareem Jackson, who I like. Another has them taking Mike Iupati, but I dunno about him. He's got great size. Meh.

I'd love to see them take Golden Tate if he's around, but thats only because I'm an ND whore; I dont really think the Colts need much wide-out help at the moment.

EspantaPajaro

GO TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS ! DRAFT GERALD MCCOY !

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iTunesIsEvil wrote: »

I'm curious to see how the Colts do their drafting this year. Irsay got on the o-line after the SB loss, but then said that he didn't mean that they wanted to retool the line and draft for it.

I bet they still draft for the o-line first though. NFL.com has one of their guys expecting them to take Kareem Jackson, who I like. Another has them taking Mike Iupati, but I dunno about him. He's got great size. Meh.

I'd love to see them take Golden Tate if he's around, but thats only because I'm an ND whore; I dont really think the Colts need much wide-out help at the moment.

Im hoping Tate drops to us in the second , they better not take them .

Wet Bandit

I like Golden Tate. If the Vikings needed another receiver, he'd be one of the guys I'd want the Vikings to take at 30.

Shawnasee

Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

PantsB

Shawnasee wrote: »

Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

The actual picks will be everywhere, and there will likely be media from nfl.com but I doubt it is legally streamed anywhere.

enlightenedbum

You shouldn't really "watch" the NFL draft anyway. Watch the NHL playoffs instead.

Argue about the picks in here, it'll be more interesting than Mayock or Kiper or McShay arguing about things.

Qonas

enlightenedbum wrote: »

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

Wifflebat

PantsB wrote: »

Shawnasee wrote: »

Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

The actual picks will be everywhere, and there will likely be media from nfl.com but I doubt it is legally streamed anywhere.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/live/landing

Doesn't get much more legal than that.

enlightenedbum

I seriously can't remember the last time Lions fans were this excited about anything. Even Millen getting fired.

Qonas

Millen getting fired allowed me to wear my Lions hat again without feeling embarassed for.....oh, about a week. With Suh, that sumbitch'll be on alllllllll summer.

EDIT: Speaking of Millen, anyone hear his analysis on the three-way trade that saw Ernie Sims go to Philly? He claimed that Sims was a good linebacker, just not "for the Lions system". Oh really Matt, THEN WHY DID YOU DRAFT HIM?!

Cauld

I don't know much about college football or who will be good in the pros, but I do know I'll be upset if the Vikings waste a 1st round pick on Tim Tebow

fortis

Here's hoping the Browns trade up and take Eric Berry.

EspantaPajaro

Man I still say the first and second rounds should be on the same day. I want to see if we can get Freeman a weapon in the second dammit.

Shawnasee

Wifflebat wrote: »

PantsB wrote: »

Shawnasee wrote: »

Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

The actual picks will be everywhere, and there will likely be media from nfl.com but I doubt it is legally streamed anywhere.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/live/landing

Doesn't get much more legal than that.

Is this going to "start" when the draft does?

A Dabble Of Thelonius

Hearing the phrase "Tebow to the Raiders" at some point would be like double Christmas.

Spindizzy

Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

PantsB

Man, people are going to be pisssssed when the Lions pick McCoy huh

enlightenedbum

Spindizzy wrote: »

Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

The teams select players who have completed their college careers in reverse order of finish the previous season. So the worst team (the Rams) select any college senior or college junior who left school early first, then the Lions, etc down to the Saints who pick 32nd. Teams can trade their draft picks. There are seven rounds. The first is today, the second and third tomorrow, and the final four on Saturday.

The draft!

DHS

Depends on which McCoy.

enlightenedbum

DHS wrote: »

Depends on which McCoy.

Not really. Lions fans are pretty unanimous in their desires here.

EspantaPajaro

enlightenedbum wrote: »

DHS wrote: »

Depends on which McCoy.

Not really. Lions fans are pretty unanimous in their desires here.

Which is funny because TB fans want Suh too but we have resigned ourselves to McCoy . Which isn't a bad plan B at all.

PantsB

Spindizzy wrote: »

Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

The general idea is the teams are ordered by previous season record, worst to earliest playoff exit to SB champ. Each team then has a certain amount of time to pick a player they will have exclusive rights to sign from the college football ranks who has decided to go pro. Picks are commodities that can be picked, so for instance the 11th pick should be the Chicago Bear's but they traded it to Denver as part of the Cutler/Orton deal last season.

After 32 picks the second round begins. It gets messier in the third because at the end their are compensatory picks for losing free agents (don't really need to know the details).

Usually what results is a game of cat and mouse as each team lies to each other on who they want, and various experts show highlights and try to project how the players will do in the pro game, often using jargon only heard at the draft ("He's got great upside" means he has a lot of potential for instance)

enlightenedbum

PantsB wrote: »

Usually what results is a game of cat and mouse as each team lies to each other on who they want, and various experts show highlights and try to project how the players will do in the pro game, often using jargon only heard at the draft ("He's got great upside" means he has a lot of potential for instance)

The NBA draft is better for this bit. "He's got great second-jumpability!"

Wet Bandit

enlightenedbum wrote: »

Spindizzy wrote: »

Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

The teams select players who have completed their college careers in reverse order of finish the previous season. So the worst team (the Rams) select any college senior or college junior who left school early first, then the Lions, etc down to the Saints who pick 32nd. Teams can trade their draft picks. There are seven rounds. The first is today, the second and third tomorrow, and the final four on Saturday.

The draft!

The only other thing I'd add is teams have 10 minutes to make their pick today. Teams will often use up all that time not because they're trying to figure out who to take, but because they're making phone calls trying to see if there's any good trades out there.

Oh, and don't be worried if the crowd boos the Jets pick. That happens. A lot.

EspantaPajaro

Another important thing about the draft is to ignore anything said by Todd McShay.

PantsB

enlightenedbum wrote: »

PantsB wrote: »

Usually what results is a game of cat and mouse as each team lies to each other on who they want, and various experts show highlights and try to project how the players will do in the pro game, often using jargon only heard at the draft ("He's got great upside" means he has a lot of potential for instance)

The NBA draft is better for this bit. "He's got great second-jumpability!"

But you never know which will feature the most ridiculous suits

PantsB

EspantaPajaro wrote: »

Another important thing about the draft is to ignore anything said by Todd McShay.

Right now I have

Mayock







Kiper
McShay

enlightenedbum

EspantaPajaro wrote: »

Another important thing about the draft is to ignore anything said by Todd McShay.

Except that Jimmy Clausen sucks. It's the first time he's been right about anything.

JustinSane07

I don't have NFLN so I'm stuck with ESPN.

I'm currently seeing Ed Werder outside the Broncos room looking very orange. It's like his color camera is from 1967.

PantsB

Wet Bandit wrote: »

enlightenedbum wrote: »

Spindizzy wrote: »

Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

The teams select players who have completed their college careers in reverse order of finish the previous season. So the worst team (the Rams) select any college senior or college junior who left school early first, then the Lions, etc down to the Saints who pick 32nd. Teams can trade their draft picks. There are seven rounds. The first is today, the second and third tomorrow, and the final four on Saturday.

The draft!

The only other thing I'd add is teams have 10 minutes to make their pick today. Teams will often use up all that time not because they're trying to figure out who to take, but because they're making phone calls trying to see if there's any good trades out there.

Oh, and don't be worried if the crowd boos the Jets pick. That happens. A lot.

Unless its the Vikings, then they might just have fucked up.


Jets booing: Its a tradition


Hey, Midget Tossing on ESPN?

Wet Bandit

Spindizzy wrote: »

Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

I've got a question for you: is there any sort of equivalent to the NFL Draft in soccer in Europe?

EspantaPajaro

JustinSane07 wrote: »

I don't have NFLN so I'm stuck with ESPN.

I'm currently seeing Ed Werder outside the Broncos room looking very orange. It's like his color camera is from 1967.

Ughh Werder is just fucking annoying anything and everything he reports is from information from "secret sources".

Eat it You Nasty Pig.

I think every first round QB prospect from now until forever is going to 'suck.' The ESPN expectations industry is sort of ridiculous.

Wet Bandit

PantsB wrote: »

Unless its the Vikings, then they might just have fucked up.

IIRC, that happened because the team the Vikings were trying to trade with didn't get their card in on time.

PantsB

Wet Bandit wrote: »

Spindizzy wrote: »

Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

I've got a question for you: is there any sort of equivalent to the NFL Draft in soccer in Europe?

I think the closest thing they have is a draw for various cups and tourneys, but that's more like Selection Sunday. They sign players from the equivalent of Jr High

Spindizzy

Cheers guys - i thought that was how it works. Can traded picks be over a few seasons or will a swap in pick order only be allowed for the next season?

I'm used to not getting much love for the Jets. Though hopefully I can win money again this year from my Giants supporting friend as to who will do better over the season.

PantsB

Rams are on the clock

Sam Bradford expected #1

enlightenedbum

You can trade future picks, yes. Patriots own the Raiders first round pick next year, for example.

EspantaPajaro

Spindizzy wrote: »

Cheers guys - i thought that was how it works. Can traded picks be over a few seasons or will a swap in pick order only be allowed for the next season?

I'm used to not getting much love for the Jets. Though hopefully I can win money again this year from my Giants supporting friend as to who will do better over the season.

You can trade next years picks for picks this year , its a common practice. But with the labor uncertainty they may be reluctant to do so.