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NFL [FOOTBALL] - It BEGINS!!

clownfoodclownfood packet pusherin the wallsRegistered User regular
edited September 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
This is it...Let the retooling of your favorite NFL team begin. The time we sit in front of the TV or by the radio or glued to your closest internet capable device and play backseat GM.

Spew your venom, sing the praises of the moves made by the NFL front offices right here in this thread.
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Round One Under the cut
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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm curious to see how the Colts do their drafting this year. Irsay got on the o-line after the SB loss, but then said that he didn't mean that they wanted to retool the line and draft for it.

    I bet they still draft for the o-line first though. NFL.com has one of their guys expecting them to take Kareem Jackson, who I like. Another has them taking Mike Iupati, but I dunno about him. He's got great size. Meh.

    I'd love to see them take Golden Tate if he's around, but thats only because I'm an ND whore; I dont really think the Colts need much wide-out help at the moment.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    GO TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS ! DRAFT GERALD MCCOY !

    Edit
    I'm curious to see how the Colts do their drafting this year. Irsay got on the o-line after the SB loss, but then said that he didn't mean that they wanted to retool the line and draft for it.

    I bet they still draft for the o-line first though. NFL.com has one of their guys expecting them to take Kareem Jackson, who I like. Another has them taking Mike Iupati, but I dunno about him. He's got great size. Meh.

    I'd love to see them take Golden Tate if he's around, but thats only because I'm an ND whore; I dont really think the Colts need much wide-out help at the moment.

    Im hoping Tate drops to us in the second , they better not take them .

  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User
    edited April 2010
    I like Golden Tate. If the Vikings needed another receiver, he'd be one of the guys I'd want the Vikings to take at 30.

  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

    The actual picks will be everywhere, and there will likely be media from nfl.com but I doubt it is legally streamed anywhere.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    You shouldn't really "watch" the NFL draft anyway. Watch the NHL playoffs instead.

    Argue about the picks in here, it'll be more interesting than Mayock or Kiper or McShay arguing about things.

  • QonasQonas Detroit, MIRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

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  • WifflebatWifflebat Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

    The actual picks will be everywhere, and there will likely be media from nfl.com but I doubt it is legally streamed anywhere.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/live/landing

    Doesn't get much more legal than that.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I seriously can't remember the last time Lions fans were this excited about anything. Even Millen getting fired.

  • QonasQonas Detroit, MIRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Millen getting fired allowed me to wear my Lions hat again without feeling embarassed for.....oh, about a week. With Suh, that sumbitch'll be on alllllllll summer.

    EDIT: Speaking of Millen, anyone hear his analysis on the three-way trade that saw Ernie Sims go to Philly? He claimed that Sims was a good linebacker, just not "for the Lions system". Oh really Matt, THEN WHY DID YOU DRAFT HIM?!

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I don't know much about college football or who will be good in the pros, but I do know I'll be upset if the Vikings waste a 1st round pick on Tim Tebow

  • fortisfortis Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Here's hoping the Browns trade up and take Eric Berry.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Man I still say the first and second rounds should be on the same day. I want to see if we can get Freeman a weapon in the second dammit.

  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Shawnasee wrote: »
    Is there a way to watch this on the internet?

    The actual picks will be everywhere, and there will likely be media from nfl.com but I doubt it is legally streamed anywhere.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/live/landing

    Doesn't get much more legal than that.

    Is this going to "start" when the draft does?

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hearing the phrase "Tebow to the Raiders" at some point would be like double Christmas.

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  • SpindizzySpindizzy Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

    In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

    also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Man, people are going to be pisssssed when the Lions pick McCoy huh

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spindizzy wrote: »
    Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

    In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

    also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

    The teams select players who have completed their college careers in reverse order of finish the previous season. So the worst team (the Rams) select any college senior or college junior who left school early first, then the Lions, etc down to the Saints who pick 32nd. Teams can trade their draft picks. There are seven rounds. The first is today, the second and third tomorrow, and the final four on Saturday.

    The draft!

  • DHSDHS Chase lizards.. ...bark at donkeys..Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Depends on which McCoy.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    DHS wrote: »
    Depends on which McCoy.

    Not really. Lions fans are pretty unanimous in their desires here.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    DHS wrote: »
    Depends on which McCoy.

    Not really. Lions fans are pretty unanimous in their desires here.

    Which is funny because TB fans want Suh too but we have resigned ourselves to McCoy . Which isn't a bad plan B at all.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spindizzy wrote: »
    Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

    In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

    also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

    The general idea is the teams are ordered by previous season record, worst to earliest playoff exit to SB champ. Each team then has a certain amount of time to pick a player they will have exclusive rights to sign from the college football ranks who has decided to go pro. Picks are commodities that can be picked, so for instance the 11th pick should be the Chicago Bear's but they traded it to Denver as part of the Cutler/Orton deal last season.

    After 32 picks the second round begins. It gets messier in the third because at the end their are compensatory picks for losing free agents (don't really need to know the details).

    Usually what results is a game of cat and mouse as each team lies to each other on who they want, and various experts show highlights and try to project how the players will do in the pro game, often using jargon only heard at the draft ("He's got great upside" means he has a lot of potential for instance)

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    Usually what results is a game of cat and mouse as each team lies to each other on who they want, and various experts show highlights and try to project how the players will do in the pro game, often using jargon only heard at the draft ("He's got great upside" means he has a lot of potential for instance)

    The NBA draft is better for this bit. "He's got great second-jumpability!"

  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Spindizzy wrote: »
    Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

    In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

    also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

    The teams select players who have completed their college careers in reverse order of finish the previous season. So the worst team (the Rams) select any college senior or college junior who left school early first, then the Lions, etc down to the Saints who pick 32nd. Teams can trade their draft picks. There are seven rounds. The first is today, the second and third tomorrow, and the final four on Saturday.

    The draft!

    The only other thing I'd add is teams have 10 minutes to make their pick today. Teams will often use up all that time not because they're trying to figure out who to take, but because they're making phone calls trying to see if there's any good trades out there.

    Oh, and don't be worried if the crowd boos the Jets pick. That happens. A lot.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Another important thing about the draft is to ignore anything said by Todd McShay.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    Usually what results is a game of cat and mouse as each team lies to each other on who they want, and various experts show highlights and try to project how the players will do in the pro game, often using jargon only heard at the draft ("He's got great upside" means he has a lot of potential for instance)

    The NBA draft is better for this bit. "He's got great second-jumpability!"

    But you never know which will feature the most ridiculous suits

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Another important thing about the draft is to ignore anything said by Todd McShay.

    Right now I have

    Mayock







    Kiper
    McShay

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Another important thing about the draft is to ignore anything said by Todd McShay.

    Except that Jimmy Clausen sucks. It's the first time he's been right about anything.

  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    I don't have NFLN so I'm stuck with ESPN.

    I'm currently seeing Ed Werder outside the Broncos room looking very orange. It's like his color camera is from 1967.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Wet Bandit wrote: »
    Spindizzy wrote: »
    Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

    In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

    also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

    The teams select players who have completed their college careers in reverse order of finish the previous season. So the worst team (the Rams) select any college senior or college junior who left school early first, then the Lions, etc down to the Saints who pick 32nd. Teams can trade their draft picks. There are seven rounds. The first is today, the second and third tomorrow, and the final four on Saturday.

    The draft!

    The only other thing I'd add is teams have 10 minutes to make their pick today. Teams will often use up all that time not because they're trying to figure out who to take, but because they're making phone calls trying to see if there's any good trades out there.

    Oh, and don't be worried if the crowd boos the Jets pick. That happens. A lot.
    Unless its the Vikings, then they might just have fucked up.


    Jets booing: Its a tradition


    Hey, Midget Tossing on ESPN?

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  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Spindizzy wrote: »
    Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

    In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

    also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

    I've got a question for you: is there any sort of equivalent to the NFL Draft in soccer in Europe?

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I don't have NFLN so I'm stuck with ESPN.

    I'm currently seeing Ed Werder outside the Broncos room looking very orange. It's like his color camera is from 1967.

    Ughh Werder is just fucking annoying anything and everything he reports is from information from "secret sources".

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I think every first round QB prospect from now until forever is going to 'suck.' The ESPN expectations industry is sort of ridiculous.

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  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User
    edited April 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    Unless its the Vikings, then they might just have fucked up.

    IIRC, that happened because the team the Vikings were trying to trade with didn't get their card in on time.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Wet Bandit wrote: »
    Spindizzy wrote: »
    Ok i'm probably going to open a can of worms here. I love watching NFL especially my beloved Jets and I understand the game but coming from the UK I have no idea how the draft actually works. Would it be possible to get a brief overview of the whole thing or at least a link somewhere that will explain the whole thing.

    In exchange i'll explain the offside rule in soccer/football

    also are there new 'Pick Me' adverts this year, they were particularly awesome

    I've got a question for you: is there any sort of equivalent to the NFL Draft in soccer in Europe?

    I think the closest thing they have is a draw for various cups and tourneys, but that's more like Selection Sunday. They sign players from the equivalent of Jr High

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  • SpindizzySpindizzy Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Cheers guys - i thought that was how it works. Can traded picks be over a few seasons or will a swap in pick order only be allowed for the next season?

    I'm used to not getting much love for the Jets. Though hopefully I can win money again this year from my Giants supporting friend as to who will do better over the season.

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Rams are on the clock

    Sam Bradford expected #1

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Ann Arbor, MichiganRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    You can trade future picks, yes. Patriots own the Raiders first round pick next year, for example.

  • EspantaPajaroEspantaPajaro Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Spindizzy wrote: »
    Cheers guys - i thought that was how it works. Can traded picks be over a few seasons or will a swap in pick order only be allowed for the next season?

    I'm used to not getting much love for the Jets. Though hopefully I can win money again this year from my Giants supporting friend as to who will do better over the season.

    You can trade next years picks for picks this year , its a common practice. But with the labor uncertainty they may be reluctant to do so.

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