not that guy, i was watchin' that one TED talk with mike rowe talkin' about some of the jobs from vocational schools sorta being in decline
that, and personally seeing attendance for some of the tech classes around a local highschool sorta going to shit and generally not seeing a high preponderance of roughneck jobs around here in michigan, as i've been trying to snatch em up
That's interesting because I went to a technical high school and it's enrollment is only growing each year. They actually just had to build an addition for all the new incoming students. In a few years they'll likely have double the students they had when I graduated in '03. Granted, they also have an expanded idea of what a technical school should offer. In addition to welding, auto, and HCPE they had graphic design, communications and criminal justice.
oh word up, i get that it ain't the land of milk and honey
but sometimes i feel (and you'd probably know more about this than me) that solely going to college to increase earning potential isn't necessarily a safe decision either. though, the economy does feel like it's getting a little better
No, you're right that it shouldn't be your only motivating factor. The thing is, is that getting your bachelor's degree is much more than the sum of its parts. In financial terms, the obvious thing it does is give you a degree for a field that you now have a chance at making a career in. On top of that, just having a degree opens up options that otherwise did not exist. You can graduate with a Bachelor's in English, and get a job at lots of places. Many companies are just looking for the fact that you received one.
For instance, my brother-in-law works for a tech company. For years, he worked and was awesome at his job and never, ever got a promotion. Why? Because there was a glass ceiling that required a degree to break through, and he didn't have one. It didn't matter what the degree was in, he just needed one. Until finally, the VP of his company just overrode that rule and made an exception, this past month.
Besides finances, though, many students find what they're really interested in at university. I'm not saying it's the only path to growing up and being an independent person, but it's a damn good one. You're not going to find a better mix of ideas and personalities than at a university. People you disagree with, people you really really like, teachers telling you things that you never heard before. Students complain about the fact that gen ed classes might have nothing to do with your major, but I think that it really helps broaden your view of the world. I really believe in expanding what you know, even if you are going to eventually go back home to work and raise a family. Even if you're going to put your hand to carpentry for the rest of your life.
It helps your economic possibilities, sure, but I think it is also very important in terms of development and broadening your horizons, and in becoming a more informed citizen.
Man don't get me started about vocational schools. They get sold like they're this big ticket to high paying jobs, when they're really tickets to working the same job for 70 years with no mobility.
Hey guess what?
Not everyone gets to be rich.
Not everyone gets to be a rockstar-test pilot-secret agent-CEO.
Somebody has to dig a fucking ditch. Somebody has to lay some fucking shingles. Somebody has to put up sheetrock.
It's high fucking time we as a country get it through our God Damn skulls this isn't a terrible or dishonorable thing.
Man don't get me started about vocational schools. They get sold like they're this big ticket to high paying jobs, when they're really tickets to working the same job for 70 years with no mobility.
Hey guess what?
Not everyone gets to be rich.
Not everyone gets to be a rockstar-test pilot-secret agent-CEO.
Somebody has to dig a fucking ditch. Somebody has to lay some fucking shingles. Somebody has to put up sheetrock.
It's high fucking time we as a country get it through our God Damn skulls this isn't a terrible or dishonorable thing.
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I don't know. I wasn't listening.
It was Poirot if you must know
what state
No, you're right that it shouldn't be your only motivating factor. The thing is, is that getting your bachelor's degree is much more than the sum of its parts. In financial terms, the obvious thing it does is give you a degree for a field that you now have a chance at making a career in. On top of that, just having a degree opens up options that otherwise did not exist. You can graduate with a Bachelor's in English, and get a job at lots of places. Many companies are just looking for the fact that you received one.
For instance, my brother-in-law works for a tech company. For years, he worked and was awesome at his job and never, ever got a promotion. Why? Because there was a glass ceiling that required a degree to break through, and he didn't have one. It didn't matter what the degree was in, he just needed one. Until finally, the VP of his company just overrode that rule and made an exception, this past month.
Besides finances, though, many students find what they're really interested in at university. I'm not saying it's the only path to growing up and being an independent person, but it's a damn good one. You're not going to find a better mix of ideas and personalities than at a university. People you disagree with, people you really really like, teachers telling you things that you never heard before. Students complain about the fact that gen ed classes might have nothing to do with your major, but I think that it really helps broaden your view of the world. I really believe in expanding what you know, even if you are going to eventually go back home to work and raise a family. Even if you're going to put your hand to carpentry for the rest of your life.
It helps your economic possibilities, sure, but I think it is also very important in terms of development and broadening your horizons, and in becoming a more informed citizen.
hmm
PM him about it!
Dear Tube,
What should I ask you about for your advice column?
do you play the sitar now?
especially since i talk to tube regularly so he knows all my crap anyway
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grow some red head dreads
and pursue a lucrative rap career
When I worked as a waiter there was a guy with red head dreads who also dj'd at a local bar.
Do not take this path.
at my last apartment my neighbor was a be-dreaded dj who drove me up the wall
dj freedom danish
he says you are a ball of rage is it true
i just ate one of them bad boys
i am intimately familiar with what is and is not included
you been spending too much time aint focusing
we are all evoking it
that's how you succeed in this game
it's probably the lack of drug abuse
gotta post up
and post up
but my life gets worse and my posts work their way up to the top. back from the days of mild smirks the occasional LOL to full on LMFAO
whiskey, tears and smoking weed out of farm implements and rotted vegetables
nothins gonna bring your postin down!
Hey guess what?
Not everyone gets to be rich.
Not everyone gets to be a rockstar-test pilot-secret agent-CEO.
Somebody has to dig a fucking ditch. Somebody has to lay some fucking shingles. Somebody has to put up sheetrock.
It's high fucking time we as a country get it through our God Damn skulls this isn't a terrible or dishonorable thing.
BUT I'm still going to college
Just so long as it isn't me
Thats fine.
Doesn't change my point though, that people seem to look down on those who do the very thing that keeps things civil.
That always pisses me off.
Those people are obnoxious.
From what I can gather, those people aren't Langly.
I just get pissy
Wait no it doesn't it fills me with unquenchable fury
Well you don't say