Well I will say for one, I think I'll get more involved in politics from about now on, this whole PR thing is really starting to piss me off. We are also having an electoral referendum back in NZ in a year or two as well, so two birds/one stone
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edited May 2010
Well I will say for one, I think I'll get more involved in politics from about now on, this whole PR thing is really starting to piss me off. We are also having an electoral referendum back in NZ in a year or two as well, so two birds/one stone
I don't think in the UK we would necessarily benefit from straight up PR - something slightly more nuanced might be in order.
Prof Vernon Bogdanor, from Oxford University, tells the BBC that if the swing of 8.4% in Houghton and Sunderland South is repeated across the country we will not have a hung parliament - we will have an outright Conservative victory.
Well I will say for one, I think I'll get more involved in politics from about now on, this whole PR thing is really starting to piss me off. We are also having an electoral referendum back in NZ in a year or two as well, so two birds/one stone
I don't think in the UK we would necessarily benefit from straight up PR - something slightly more nuanced might be in order.
I would support the Scottish/German/NZ AV+/MMP system, as it works well in those places. I've voted in the AV+/MMP system and voting over here just feels so archaic.
surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
edited May 2010
I would support the Scottish/German/NZ AV+/MMP system, as it works well in those places. I've voted in the AV+/MMP system and voting over here just feels so archaic.
I recently had a fascinating conversation with one of the gents who wrote the 1979 election manifesto, and he said in the end he would probably choose the German model as the least bad of all worlds. Which is interesting. There are mathematical problems with every voting system, sadly
I would support the Scottish/German/NZ AV+/MMP system, as it works well in those places. I've voted in the AV+/MMP system and voting over here just feels so archaic.
I recently had a fascinating conversation with one of the gents who wrote the 1979 election manifesto, and he said in the end he would probably choose the German model as the least bad of all worlds. Which is interesting. There are mathematical problems with every voting system, sadly
Well there is a huge amount of research and writing on the German system out there and now a lot of it is in English since NZ and the devolved nations picked the system back in the 1990s. I did my LLM with a German girl who did her thesis on the various mathematical formulas in use in such systems, it was very interesting stuff
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Safest of seats, liable to be one of the lower turnouts.
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It is a sign of things to come though, if voter turnout has growth in a safe seat, contestable seats will be much higher.
A little, yes
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EDIT: Tory lady on the BBC coverage is seriously risking looking very silly if the exit poll doesn't reflect reality.
I don't think in the UK we would necessarily benefit from straight up PR - something slightly more nuanced might be in order.
Edit: I am a complete fucking idiot
Not mathmatically possible.
Thing is, he's dead right on the mark. Closing down the voting and denying people their vote is an outrage.
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Come on dude, think about that for a second.
I would support the Scottish/German/NZ AV+/MMP system, as it works well in those places. I've voted in the AV+/MMP system and voting over here just feels so archaic.
Well it is fucking disgraceful.
I recently had a fascinating conversation with one of the gents who wrote the 1979 election manifesto, and he said in the end he would probably choose the German model as the least bad of all worlds. Which is interesting. There are mathematical problems with every voting system, sadly
Good point about not letting the markets bully us into choosing a particular government. The 'markets' haven't proved real fucking smart recently.
Go back to the people talk about politics. What does sport have to do with any of this. Shut the fuck up.
EDIT: YES THANK YOU GOD FOR TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
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Well there is a huge amount of research and writing on the German system out there and now a lot of it is in English since NZ and the devolved nations picked the system back in the 1990s. I did my LLM with a German girl who did her thesis on the various mathematical formulas in use in such systems, it was very interesting stuff
Hopefully their boat has sunk.
Part of me hopes/thinks an editor deliberatly pulled out a wire.
EDIT: Coldred's idea is better.
I just wanted to hear Ian Hislop.
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