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Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's StockingNorth PoleRegistered User regular
edited May 2010 in Social Entropy++
alright so check this out

these dudes right, they synthesized a strand of bacterial dna, and they put it in a cell, right

and then the dna took over the cell

so essentially, we're a half step away from creating life

that is terrifying and awesome and terrifying.

the president is apparently looking into this kind of stuff to see if it is considered ethical or not

so let me posit that question to you, class

is it cool to create organic cells for use in biofuels and the like

and if that's cool where does that coolness end

when does it start getting like, gattaca levels of fucked up

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  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow YRP...in position It's showtime, girls.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This isn't cool

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  • bombardierbombardier mr. mully Vancouver, BCSuper Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited May 2010
    Make something that eats plastic and poops out rainbows.

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ethics are only defined by the limitation of our natural bodies.

    Genetics are the key to being free of our natural shackles.

  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Skull Man wrote: »
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

    you could try reading the article I linked helpfully

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Make me a lizard person.

    I want to do with you
    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    Ethics are only defined by the limitation of our natural bodies.

    Genetics are the key to being free of our natural shackles.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoteS17NnGE

  • LarlarLarlar Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited May 2010
    Can we synthesize people then start up the slave trade again?

    No, synthesizing people is wrong.

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?

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  • GreenGreen Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Skull Man wrote: »
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

    Science is halfway to being God

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
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  • DubhDubh BEST FRIENDS WITH FIRE Hudda!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    good god

    a politician is the last person I want looking at the ethical limits of science

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?

    I don't think we're quite that far, boss

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  • LarlarLarlar Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited May 2010
    Green wrote: »
    Skull Man wrote: »
    can someone who knows more about science explain this to me step-by-step to tell me why it's remarkable

    Science is halfway to being God

    The other half is being a frozen carcass in space.

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  • VivixenneVivixenne aDAWRable! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    wait so what are the implications of this technology that make it a bad thing or a good thing?

  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    oh thank god it ain't the dreamcast again

  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Let me recreate a real-life pokemon of my choice, and then burn this program to the ground

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I cannot foresee any potential problems or consequences to Humankind playing God.

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Can we synthesize people then start up the slave trade again?

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    wait so what are the implications of this technology that make it a bad thing or a good thing?

    william gibson quote from call of duty 4

  • SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    will it make me an android

    these are the questions

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?



    Essentially we've only been able to splice parts of engineered DNA patterns into cells before.

    This time we've put an entire loop of engineered DNA into a cell, and it's complete enough that it can replicate on its own.

  • bombardierbombardier mr. mully Vancouver, BCSuper Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited May 2010
    Seriously though something that could decompose plastic would be pretty useful. Also other nasty shit like oil. Ok I guess oil then.

  • DubhDubh BEST FRIENDS WITH FIRE Hudda!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository PAHK YAH CAH IN DAH YAHD SouthieRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010

    is it cool to create organic cells for use in biofuels and the like

    and if that's cool where does that coolness end

    when does it start getting like, gattaca levels of fucked up

    Right about the time when the scientist responsible says this:
    "We decided that writing new biological software and creating new species, we could create new species to what we want them to do, not what they evolved to do."

    It sounds benign and incredibly ethical boundary pushing creepy at the same time.

    Your fuckin' family's dug into the Southie projects like ticks. You, however, grew up on the North Shore, huh? Well, la-di-fuckin'-da. You were kind of a double kid, I bet, right? Huh? One kid with your old man, one kid with your mother. You're upper-middle class during the weeks, then you're droppin' your "R"s and you're hangin' in the big, bad Southie projects with your daddy on the weekends. I got that right?
  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ruckus wrote: »
    I cannot foresee any potential problems or consequences to Humankind playing God.
    Someone's gotta pick up His slack!

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    You're only 'playing god' when something goes horribly wrong.

    The rest of the time you're curing cancer.

  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I know you love me I am loving you more.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It ends when I can go to a Mythical Creatures Zoo.

    On Tuesdays you can feed the Manticores live fairies.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow YRP...in position It's showtime, girls.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    You're only 'playing god' when something goes horribly wrong.

    The rest of the time you're curing cancer.

    I would call curing cancer playing God

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository PAHK YAH CAH IN DAH YAHD SouthieRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    bombardier wrote: »
    Seriously though something that could decompose plastic would be pretty useful. Also other nasty shit like oil. Ok I guess oil then.

    But what if it doesn't stop there? What if it hungers for more?

    Your fuckin' family's dug into the Southie projects like ticks. You, however, grew up on the North Shore, huh? Well, la-di-fuckin'-da. You were kind of a double kid, I bet, right? Huh? One kid with your old man, one kid with your mother. You're upper-middle class during the weeks, then you're droppin' your "R"s and you're hangin' in the big, bad Southie projects with your daddy on the weekends. I got that right?
  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?



    Essentially we've only been able to splice parts of engineered DNA patterns into cells before.

    This time we've put an entire loop of engineered DNA into a cell, and it's complete enough that it can replicate on its own.

    The implications for bioweapons are terrifying.

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  • LarlarLarlar Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited May 2010
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    I'll write one when I'm done with my current story. That sounds like fun.

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  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    they haven't created life from scratch by the way
    Dr. Venter copied the DNA from one species of bacteria and inserted it into another. The second bacteria made all the proteins and organelles in the so-called “synthetic cell,” by following the specifications implicit in the structure of the inserted DNA.

    heavy modification, sure

  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Can I splice up yet

    Can I become a tiger-man

    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
  • DubhDubh BEST FRIENDS WITH FIRE Hudda!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Larlar wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    I'll write one when I'm done with my current story. That sounds like fun.

    maybe I should also write something

    start a trend

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    lostwords wrote: »
    so like if you inject special bacterial horsey dna into a baby, you can raise a halfstallion/half human monstrosity? am i reading that right? can i finally ride a centaur?



    Essentially we've only been able to splice parts of engineered DNA patterns into cells before.

    This time we've put an entire loop of engineered DNA into a cell, and it's complete enough that it can replicate on its own.

    The implications for bioweapons are terrifying.

    Really, there are many more effective, less-delicate and less-costly methods for creating bio-weapons than this.

  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    You're only 'playing god' when something goes horribly wrong.

    The rest of the time you're curing cancer.

    I would call curing cancer playing God
    In that case, I would call any use of medicine and really any attempt at self-preservation playing God

    In which case, the phrase is utterly useless

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  • scarlet st.scarlet st. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Can we synthesize people then start up the slave trade again?

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