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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
  • YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The thing where farmers have their crops contaminated by patented genes, which would naturally happen, and then end up having to pay corporations for it is so messed up.

    It really is. They are also prevented from gathering their wasted seeds and re-using them. I don't understand the legal basis for that shit at all and it is fucked in half.
    I think that is more of an effect of Monsanto's shitty corporate policy and less a direct result of patenting though.

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  • ArchArch HELLO YES THIS IS BUG Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The thing where farmers have their crops contaminated by patented genes, which would naturally happen, and then end up having to pay corporations for it is so messed up.

    It really is. They are also prevented from gathering their wasted seeds and re-using them. I don't understand the legal basis for that shit at all and it is fucked in half.
    I think that is more of an effect of Monsanto's shitty corporate policy and less a direct result of patenting though.

    which is my main problem with GMO crops
    Arch wrote:
    dude i hate GMOs not because OMFG scary science! but more because the people running and supplying these things are dirtbags

  • YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I don't think it's fair to say "GMO crops" as if they are all made by the same people and treated the same way.
    Cotton in the US is almost completely GMO, with very little controversy.
    There would be no more papaya, at least not in Hawaii, if it weren't for GM papaya that are resistant to the ringspot virus.
    Monsanto is run by dirtbags, but a lot of companies are not.

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  • ArchArch HELLO YES THIS IS BUG Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I don't think it's fair to say "GMO crops" as if they are all made by the same people and treated the same way.
    Cotton in the US is almost completely GMO, with very little controversy.
    There would be no more papaya, at least not in Hawaii, if it weren't for GM papaya that are resistant to the ringspot virus.
    Monsanto is run by dirtbags, but a lot of companies are not.

    fair enough

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My only point is that Monsanto would still exist and would still be quite profitable if they could not patent gene sequences, as they can still patent their processes and they can still sell their products. The argument that there would be no commercial biotech if we were to withhold patents from gene sequences just doesn't hold water. Yes, there would be a bit less. Yes, Monsanto would probably trade down a few dollars on the share and their market cap might drop by a billion dollars or so. No, commercial biotech would not simply evaporate, and no, a billion dollars to them isn't really that much money.

    one should not be able to create life, patent it, unleash it on the world, and then expect to be paid when your product escapes and becomes useful to someone else

    it's a creation of such a fundamentally different character than anything else that is ever patented that it should have been looked at a little more carefully when the first applications came in

    on one side of the argument you have: "commercial science will proceed at a moderately slower pace and won't be as profitable to a very few people" and on the other side you have all of the property law that already governs ownership of living things. If you've created a papaya resistant to a particular virus by genetic modification, are you really doing something qualitatively different than creating a new breed of domestic dog through selective breeding? Should Mendel have applied for a patent for his peas? No, because it's just silly to think you could have rights to something that is going to start mutating and evolving the moment you take your hands off it.

  • jackaljackal Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The thing where farmers have their crops contaminated by patented genes, which would naturally happen, and then end up having to pay corporations for it is so messed up.

    It really is. They are also prevented from gathering their wasted seeds and re-using them. I don't understand the legal basis for that shit at all and it is fucked in half.
    I think that is more of an effect of Monsanto's shitty corporate policy and less a direct result of patenting though.

    Their pricing structure probably takes wasted seed into account, so if they allowed re-using wasted seed they would just charge more per pound of seed so that they got the same amount of money per pound of expected yield. It would just be more work for everyone involved.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    ADDRESS ALL COMPLAINTS TO THE MONSANTO CORPORATION

    STEAM
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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I could really go from some fruit loops right now.

    I want to do with you
    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Projeck wrote: »
    Rolo wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    is there any work of science fiction where playing God turns out to be pretty okay?

    You're only 'playing god' when something goes horribly wrong.

    The rest of the time you're curing cancer.

    I would call curing cancer playing God

    Many forms of modern medicine is playing God. I doubt Organ Transplants were in the original blueprints.

    I realize this

    It doesn't mean I agree with it

    But whatever, might as well not stop now, you guys are right

    wait are you like

    am i reading this right

    you don't think organ transplants are okay

    Other people can do whatever the hell they want to do, honestly

    I can only control what I do

    okay so

    say you're in a situation where it is either die or get a donated kidney

    you'd...rather die?

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  • Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    What the hell.

    I want to do with you
    What spring does with the cherry trees.
  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    is vow being terrible in yet another thread?

    STEAM
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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I don't know about you folk butt man I'd take any possible opportunity to extend my lifespan

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    butt man

    STEAM
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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    nananananananananana
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    butt man

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I, too, am a butt man

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    butt transplants: are they okay

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  • TaskmanTaskman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Only in situations where they are an improvement over the original butt, and come from a willing butt donor who has signed the appropriate release forms.

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  • KetBraKetBra hiRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I am donating my butt to science.

    butt science

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  • HellaJeffHellaJeff FAB FRESH RAIIINBOOWWWWWRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    butt man

    Buttspan

  • Drew-BDrew-B Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Still talking bout seafood ITT?

    No?

  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Turning on a light in a room is playing God.

    Because God was like, "Let there be light."

    "Ultima Online Pre-Trammel is the perfect example of why libertarians are full of shit."
    - @Ludious
    PA Lets Play Archive - Twitter - Blog (6/15/14)
  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    Turning on a light in a room is playing God.

    Because God was like, "Let there be light."

    No, that was Multivac.

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  • WeaverWeaver Storm coming FinallyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    Skull Man wrote: »
    maybe you should go fuck yourself, shank, it's one thirty in the morning and I'm not changing the world with my stupid jokes any more than you are with your righteous indignation

    The practical effect of a thought has no bearing on the moral value of the thought!

    Do you know, to this day, I get the two of you mixed up?

    college-aged s-names with brown hair

    I think the similarities stop there, but I'd probably get us mixed up too

    I used to get Weaver and Callius mixed up for no good reason so SHRUGGLES



    ...thank you?

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  • Baroque And RollBaroque And Roll Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I could really go from some fruit loops right now.

    I like you.

    Fruit Loops are awesome.

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  • Platypus BeirutPlatypus Beirut Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    As a kid, I had Fruit Loops all the time. It was my favorite cereal, but nowadays they're a bit too sweet for me.

  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I need some oops all berries

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Trix is the best

    Even though the pieces aren't fruit shaped anymore

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    AMP'd wrote: »
    Trix is the best

    Even though the pieces aren't fruit shaped anymore

    They used to not be fruit shaped a long time ago.

    What the hell though, when did they change it?

    "Ultima Online Pre-Trammel is the perfect example of why libertarians are full of shit."
    - @Ludious
    PA Lets Play Archive - Twitter - Blog (6/15/14)
  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    yo dudes what should i lunch on

    gimme some lunchideas

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  • TamTam I hate art I love artRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
  • TaskmanTaskman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Bacon sandwich, with scrambled egg and sliced, fried artichoke.

    I bought what I thought was a fresh lemon smoothie today and it turned out the recipe was lemon, ginger, tomato and celery.

    Thinking of going back. And poisoning the guy who made it.

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  • celandinecelandine Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    1. Peanut butter hamburger is better than it sounds, but avocado on hamburger is even better.

    2. Craig Venter is one step closer to being God, and I don't really mind at all.

    3. I successfully convinced my mom that organ donation is okay. But I understand the superstition about having your body intact. I still don't want me or anybody in my family to be cremated.

    I write about math here:
    http://numberblog.wordpress.com/
  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    the more i think about it the more i want my body on a firing line and let everybody shoot my body to shit

    diablo III - beardsnbeer#1508 Mechwarrior Online - Rusty Bock
  • DubhDubh "FLÄSHYN!" Y.V.'s mansionRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I want my corpse shot into space

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    science can have my body

    but they better not sell it to some asshole wig company or something

    I read Stiff! I know what they do!

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    i don't think science wants my body

    diablo III - beardsnbeer#1508 Mechwarrior Online - Rusty Bock
  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    science wants all the bodies!

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    science can have my body

    but they better not sell it to some asshole wig company or something

    I read Stiff! I know what they do!

    Of course they're not going to turn your body into a wig.

    If you're looking for a quality wig, you want horse hair, not Kuribo's shoe.

    Your body will be turned into a potassium-rich wig paste.

  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    science can have my body

    but they better not sell it to some asshole wig company or something

    I read Stiff! I know what they do!

    Of course they're not going to turn your body into a wig.

    If you're looking for a quality wig, you want horse hair, not Kuribo's shoe.

    Your body will be turned into a potassium-rich wig paste.

    I'll never eat another banana again! then their wig paste won't have the necessary potassium and I will have the last laugh

    from my symbolic bodiless space coffin

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