So you wanna be a Street Fighter?
Step 1: Fundamentals
The information in the spoiler will help you get started!
Step 2: Getting more serious.
More information than you thought existed, and arcade stick info.
Step 2a: Getting a fight stick.
The Joystick Rant
Just buy a god damn TE
Step 3: Watching the pros, learning the matches
Step 4: Learning and putting it in practice: The PA Mentor Program
. Don't ask in the thread, don't second guess it, don't read reviews online, don't poll your friends. Do you know what everyone is going to tell you? GO BUY A GOD DAMN TE
. You know what people will say if you ask if you should get an SE? Save yourself the trouble and buy a TE. And then you'll be like "Why is the TE so much better than the SE?" and we'll all say "The buttons suck and you'll have to replace them and it just saves a lot of time and probably money just to get the TE." And then you'll ask us "But what about a Hori stick? I heard those are good." And then everyone will say "Yeah those are okay but they're not as good as the TE or even the SE because it's harder to mod" and then some silly goose will say "Hey, I like Hori's" just to confuse you but then someone else will be like "Yeah Hori's are fine but is it better then the TE?" and the original silly goose will be like "Oh no nothing is better than the TE" because nothing is better than the TE
. And then you'll ask us why the TE is so good and the answers will invariably involve the modability, out of the box professional quality parts and the overall sexiness and build quality. But then of course because you have to make this difficult you'll say "I can't use Japanese parts because I need an octo gate, I can't use a square gate, also I need a bat top and some sort of adapter to make it work and blah blah blah" and invariably someone will come in and link you all the things you just mentioned above
and tell you where to buy it from.
So I just saved the whole thread like three pages of people trying to be the first to recommend the TE and the ridiculous questions that come with it. JUST. BUY. THE. T. E.
Now that we have that out of the way, here are some stick related links:
The SRK Tech Talk Forums
: Everything you need to know to mod or build your own stick.
Switching from a pad to a stick.
Arcade Stick Guide
- Complete with reviews, faq and glossary!
Slagcoin's Ridiculously In Depth Joystick Guide
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So, if you need help actually doing the combos, or just want someone to give you a helping hand, we are rolling out the PA mentor program. These are people who are willing to devote some time here or there to help you out. So don't be shy! The mentors are listed with their PA name (so you can pm them to work out a schedule), their live name (so you can fight them) and the classes they're willing to teach and when they can do it. If you need help, don't be shy. We're generally pretty patient and helpful!
A Penny Arcade SSFIV RanBat?!
ChaosHat - XBL: EntropyHat
Availability: Most days and evenings during the week. Weekends not so much.
Basics and Fundamentals: work on whatever you need that isn't super character specific. Zoning, theory, footsies, it's all good.
Chun-Li: Chundamentals (do you see what I did there?) to advanced Chun theory.
Juri: Basics to advanced.
Notes: I can be reached on IRC or AIM basically anytime ever. Also, if you want to work on learning the Chun or Juri matchups for your character of choice, I have no problem doing that.
GF-Boceifus - XBL: Boceifus
Availability: Weeknights that aren't wednesday, weekends by appointment.
Abel: Beginner to advanced
Makoto: Beginner to intermediate
If you want a PS3 ranbat, message DasUberEdward. He is trying to get the ball rolling on it.
Ranbat Season 1 Spreadsheet
Ranbat Season 2
Okay, revised ranbat rules for added clarification.
First off, let's start with some definitions:
Next: generic ranbat rules.
- RanBat - RANking BATtle. It's what you're reading about. Players compete in tournaments to earn points and get ranked based on how many points they have earned.
- Round - A single round. The announcer usually yells "ROUND X" before these start, with X being the round number. In between rounds, a player does not access any menus and cannot change characters.
- Game - A grouping of rounds, usually best of three or five rounds. After a game ends (online at least) both players are returned to the lobby ready screen and character select.
- Match - A collection of games against one specific human opponent during a single round or period of a ranbat.
Nextly, scheduling and signups!
- 99 second, best of three rounds, best of three games in a match unless otherwise specified.
- All characters allowed.
- Only the loser may switch characters, the winner may not switch characters, but is allowed to change ultras if desired.
Anyways, onto the actual RanBatting.
- All ranbats @9pm eastern!
- Xbox 360 ranbats on Tuesday and Thursday
- PS3 ranbats on Wednesday
- PM ChaosHat on 360, or DasUberEdward if you're going to come the day of!
- Log onto IRC at the start time!
There are two phases to a ranbat night, the pools period, and the playoffs period. The exact structure of these is up to the organizer, but here are some formats you can expect. First, the pools period. There are two ways the pools period is run generally, depending on turnout. On especially low turnout nights, it is not unprecedented to skip pools. The pools period is meant to select the players who will go to the playoffs period, usually a top 8 (but potentially more in the event of large turnout). Regardless of whichever method is chosen, it is vitally important that you record your match wins and losses, as well as the games wins and losses, as the games wins/losses can be used to break a tie in the event two people have identical match records.
The Pools Period!
Method 1: Group Seeds.
In this way, each player is randomly put into a seed with other players. Each player will then fight the other players in their seed. After everyone has fought the people they are supposed to, the top player from each seed will advance to the playoff period. In the event that there are fewer than eight seeds, then the next best records are selected (think NFL wild card seeding).
Mehod 2: Personal Seeds
When the number doesn't divide nicely for even group seeds, personal seeds will be created. All players will be placed in a random order on a list, and then told to play a number of players above them on the list, and below them on the list. That sounds complicated, but here is an example
from a ranbat run by ChaosHat. In this example, players are instructed to play two players above and below them to determine their own personal seed. For instance, ChaosHat would have to play Kris, Yellow Ranger, Chadwalk and SkutSkut. In the event that a player is at the top or bottom of the list, they merely wrap around to the top to get their matches. For example, ZH would play Syrous Starr, SkutSkut, Kinderparty and DRTYWRX.
The Playoff Period!
After whatever method used to determine the top eight is finished, the top eight are then placed in playoff brackets. These can be simple and single elimination, or more complex and double elimination, preference and time available generally determines this. Single elimination brackets are pretty simple, here are example double elimination brackets.
Generally, finals matches are played best of five games. In single elimination, these would be the finals, and in double elimination, these are winners' finals (game 11 on the sample bracket), losers' finals (game 13) and grand finals (game 14).
A special note for double elimination: the player coming from losers' finals (the player who won game 13) has to beat the player coming from winners' finals in two matches: one match to send the winner to the loser's bracket, and another match to win the ranbat. The player coming from winners' finals needs to only win one match.
After the playoff period is finished, then points are awarded and tallied on the ranbat spreadsheet (linked above the spoiler). Points are, as of now, given out in two ways depending on the playoffs format. For single elimination, all players are awarded one point for making it to the playoffs, and awarded two extra points for every match they win after that. This makes your points distribution in a top 8 single elimination playoffs look like this: 7 points for first place, 5 points for second, 3 points for people who lost in the semifinals, and 1 point for people who lost in the first round.
For double elimination, points are determined based on what place the player made, and how many participants there were. Players earn the opposite number of points of the place they came in, so for example in an 8 player double elimination playoffs, the first place player would win 8 points, and someone who came in eighth place would win 1. When players lose in the same round, they are considered tied for the highest possible place. Using the example bracket shown above, here are the entrants and the place they finished in:
ChaosHat - 1st place, winner of grand finals, 8 points
Ranbat Long Term Stuff
DRTYWRX - 2nd place, lost grand finals, 7 points.
Chadwalk - 3rd place, lost loser's finals, 6 points.
Kinderparty - 4th place, lost in loser's semifinals, 5 points.
Blackbeard and e2db - tied for fifth, lost in loser's round 2, four points.
Kris and TheUnsane1 - Tied for seventh, lost in loser's round 1, two points.
Ranbat points are accumulated over the length of a season, which is of indeterminate length and up to whoever is running the ranbat. At the end, the standings will finalize, and something will probably happen. Maybe ChaosHat will make someone a cool forum signature denoting that they won or something. Or maybe we'll have a big end of season bracket for all the marbles, consisting of the top eight players by points. Crossing that bridge when we get to that.
cj_iwakura is working on an old school ranbat!
The PA Fighting Game Community!
Okay, let's get this rolling.
The First [strike]Annual[/strike] Street Fighter Alpha/3S/whatever GGPO Tournament
Ideally next Monday, June 7th, 9PM EST.
(For one of the two, the other, if popular enough, will transpire either next week or somewhere in between.)
-Street Fighter Alpha 2 OR 3
-Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike: Fight For The Future: Colons
(there's tons of other potential fighters, but for sake of being on topic and in regards to popularity, we'll stick with those two for now)
GGPO allows online play between anyone from all over the globe with pretty sweet net code.
I can't go into more details than that, but if you want to contact me, I'll be glad to help you out.
That is, if you PM me. Include your GGPO name, and preference between Alpha 2 or 3(we'll go with whichever game is more popular, not
both) and 3s. Or you can enter both.
If you need help figuring out GGPO, I can help you out from there. Or add me to AIM/Messenger if you like.
-Seeding, RanBat style
The rest depends on how many people show interest.
It's also possible that I'll be recruiting from other boards and/or communities, just to up the roster.
We have a friends list, you can access it here!
First, enter your data here, using this form
Then, you can view the list of players here
If you're on the 360, you can add the metafriend: A PA SSF4
We also made a super cool IRC room!
#PAFighting at irc.slashnet.org:6667 You can use this web client if you're SUPER UNCOOL.
So people know, we are naming ourselves LFG_YourName in irc if you're looking for a lobby, and LFM_YourName if you're looking for more people! Simply use /nick to change your name in chat. You should use a non web client because sometimes the web client breaks while the server is still up for some unknown reason. If you need help configuring IRC, Blackbeard made this super cool guide:
How to get mIRC working
Step 1: Go to http://www.mirc.com/
and click Download mIRC and install it. Just do all the basic stuff and let it do its thing. It's pretty fast.
Step 2: Go file > select server. Under connect, click on servers. Then click the Add button that appears on the right. Under description, put whatever you want. Under IRC server, put irc.slashnet.org, ports put 6667, and for group put #PAFighting. Password leave blank. Hit ok when done.
Step 3: Click connect again on the left menu, and fill out the nickname box and other info (I had to also do full name and email before it stopped giving me shit. I also unchecked invisible mode in case it did what it sounded like). Click the connect button under those info boxes, and wait a sec. A box should pop up asking what channel to join. Enter #PAFighting and click join. That should do it. If you get an error at this step, you may have to reopen the server select menu, click on firewall, and add port 6667. I had to, but your mileage may vary.
Know anything I'm missing? Let me know and I'll add it.
Thanks to MNC Dover, OP originator.