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I have lame taste in music, and I acknowledge that.
I don't spend nearly enough time bothering to figure out who did what first or who did such and such best, and I end up enjoying music mostly 15 levels removed from the person who did it right.
But man, my girlfriend's MP3 player that I am borrowing is just even worse. It has embarrassed me into asking for help. If I get help, it's possible she might stop thinking Glee covers and circa 2008 pop-punk is the bee's knees.
So basically, what are good bands that I haven't heard? That means probably not played on the radio or at least not in the US. Hell, what are some musical genres that I may not have listened to? Also, what are the one-hit-wonders am I tapping along to influenced by? I am pretty sure, for instance, that "ain't no rest for the wicked" is basically wholesale ripping off someone, but I am not educated enough to know whom.
I think that is what concerns me most, that I am spending all my time getting jiggy and not even knowing that some rap music has swears.
I was just going to bang some stuff into Pandora, but it turns out you can't do that in Australia because it is a hellhole. Plus I guess people probably will be better anyways.
Well, your taste may suck, but what you like is what you like... so, what appeals to you? Do you like mind-blowing musicianship? Do you like a good melody? Do you like something snappy the kids can dance to?
Music always has, and always will, be subjective. I have an incredibly low tolerance for Death growling over thrashy guitar - but a segment of society thinks it is the 'Bees knees' as you put it. So stop being a self righteous git and telling your girlfriend what music she should like.
There is nothing wrong with sharing music you enjoy with her (and vice versa) with the aim of sharing an interest, but asking a bunch of people on the internet to help you fix her music taste seems pretty absurd.
There is no such thing as lame music. You like what you like, and that's why the entire music industry isn't pop.
I like classical. Do you? My friends who listen to rap think it's lame, but I find it soothing. I find their taste in music lame as well, but they like to rock some bitches or whatever kids these days say.
I'm honestly not certain that what I like will be relevant, because I am generally excited by novelty in the first place.
Stuff I am pretty confident I like is:
Aesop Rock
Vast Aire
C-Mon and Kypski
The Heavy
The Monkees
Sam Cooke
The Temptations
Some Black Sabbath
A bit of jazz that I can't ever remember...
Then it devolves into things I have mostly heard a thousand times and am therefore moderately inured to/nostalgic about. Like Journey and Nirvana and such.
Don't feel like you have to appeal to what I'm already into though, I wouldn't mind hearing music I hate if I also got to read a decent opinion of why I'm totally wrong.
Anyone who doesn't like Dvorak's New World Symphony is a horrible human being, fact.
EDIT Don't be such a bitch about your musical taste. I like avante garde jazz but not swing or big band. My friends and I argue about this endlessly. Nobody is "wrong" when it comes to their musical tastes.
See, it's not that I'm afraid my taste is bad because I have different taste, It's that I feel cheated when I find out that I am watching AvP 2 and thinking how totally awesome it is and then 10 years later I finally watch Aliens and man I could have been loving that all this time!
I simply don't spend enough time to be able to discern what suits my tastes, or even what suits other people's tastes.
There is no such thing as lame music. You like what you like, and that's why the entire music industry isn't pop.
This.
If you like Ain't No Rest for the Wicked, great. It's catchy. Yeah some hipster douche will tell you that Cage the Elephant is ripping off the White Stripes and maybe BRMC at the same time but fuck it. Good music is good music and if you like it don't let other people's opinions bother you. People get retarded about music. Not about what makes music good, mind you, but about what makes the music you listen to suck. It's cool to drink the haterade.
But you asked for non-lame music and so I present to you the most awesome progressive death indie band making music on this planet:
Currently listening to The National's new record and liking it.
The new Grace Potter & The Nocturnals album is great, a little more polished (for good or ill) in comparison to their earlier stuff.
The new Broken Bells album is good.
The Heavy's album from last year is great, as is Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros
JJ Grey & Mofro - Orange Blossoms is from a couple of years ago but I just recently got into it and really dug it.
Everything The Avett Brothers have put out is pretty great.
Camera Obscura's album from last year remains a favorite of mine as well.
I neglected to read carefully and see that you mentioned you already like The Heavy. In that case definitely check out JJ Grey & Mofro's album Orange Blossoms as well as Black Joe Lewis & The Honeybears.
Also, half the fun of music is backtracking and figuring out what music inspired who. Maybe Cage the Elephant was influenced/ inspired by The White Stripes who in turn were influenced by Son House and all those old blues guys.
(also holy shit this next song, I actually hadn't it before I went looking to post some of their other stuff... I guess its new) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHc6VmDHBnc
I've always had a major soft spot for early Yes. Most other prog sounds hella lame to me in comparison (Dream Theater, for example, would be at home in a second-rate Disney movie a lot of the time but for the percussion style). You've probably heard "Roundabout" or "I've seen all good people" (or whatever that song is actually called) a dozen times or more on the radio (or maybe not in Australia?), so here's something a little different. Make sure to view these on youtube with "&fmt=18" on the end of the url.
Which Black Sabbath do you like, specifically? There are is major territory to explore in metal that isn't anything like stereotypical death metal. (Though it has been amusing to see that kind of thing become more appealing to me the longer I listen to metal.)
Basically a Polish DJ slightly edited it (think edit NOT remix) and now it gets thrown in some house sets now and again. It's not the boring crooning that the four seasons normally does and kind of soulful in a way and set to a breakbeat.
Also, if you want any techno (detroit, minimal, bangin, or whatnot) recommendations, let me know. Generally, people don't like that kind of stuff.
Well, I'll throw up a couple of techno sets just in case you don't hate it.
Marcel Fengler of the Berghain club in Berlin does a 1 hour set for Resident Advisor. Berghain is kind of where there's a new rebirth of techno going on after so many years of stripping every down to minimal.
Most people don't like what I do but I'll try a few of my favs, as a caveat I tend to prefer heavier/faster stuff in general but I enjoy a overall mix:
Which Black Sabbath do you like, specifically? There are is major territory to explore in metal that isn't anything like stereotypical death metal. (Though it has been amusing to see that kind of thing become more appealing to me the longer I listen to metal.)
yeah, if you like the Dio years, then check out more of Dio. I love Dio, and I get sad whenever I think that he just died.
Pink Floyd is my favourite band, so I'm going recommend them. They have more songs than Money, and Another Brick in the Wall.
If you want to get into classical music, I would recommend The Canadian Brass. They are an excellent brass quartet? quintet?... group. "Go for Baroque" is the only album title I can remember right now.
Videos game soundtracks are great too. Some of my favorites are Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, which has a somewhat industrial sound to it (and fantastic drumming), and Chrono Cross, which ranges in style from 18th century sea chanties to modern atmospheric music.
I have lame taste in music, and I acknowledge that.
I don't spend nearly enough time bothering to figure out who did what first or who did such and such best, and I end up enjoying music mostly 15 levels removed from the person who did it right.
But man, my girlfriend's MP3 player that I am borrowing is just even worse. It has embarrassed me into asking for help. If I get help, it's possible she might stop thinking Glee covers and circa 2008 pop-punk is the bee's knees.
So basically, what are good bands that I haven't heard? That means probably not played on the radio or at least not in the US. Hell, what are some musical genres that I may not have listened to? Also, what are the one-hit-wonders am I tapping along to influenced by? I am pretty sure, for instance, that "ain't no rest for the wicked" is basically wholesale ripping off someone, but I am not educated enough to know whom.
I think that is what concerns me most, that I am spending all my time getting jiggy and not even knowing that some rap music has swears.
I was just going to bang some stuff into Pandora, but it turns out you can't do that in Australia because it is a hellhole. Plus I guess people probably will be better anyways.
Try your hand at american jazz. There are a lot of amazing influences and a lot of different regional tastes. The new-age stuff is fantastic. Jaga Jazzist is a good place to start if you like the more new age stuff.
If you go to Youtube, search for a video by an artist you like and start playing songs. Eventually you'll see 'Artist name Mix' on the right hand side. I have no idea how they come up with the connections, but they're pretty solid.
To cover hip hop, Tribe called quest, De la soul, Bone thugz n harmony, Gang Starr.
And in a similar vein to Noisia, mentioned by Ransim, Black Sun Empire is very similar and just as awesome.
My personal favorite way to find new artists is by using the radio funcion in Last.fm (Go to the artist's page, then click on "Listen "artist's radio" and it will play groups.
My second favorite and simplest way to find new music is by using Gnoosic.
Sunlounger (a.k.a. Roger Shah) is one of my all-time favorite music artists. I've been a fan of Trance for about a decade now, starting with Paul Oakenfold and moving onto ATB and Armin van Buuren and the like, but I practically fell in love when I first heard Roger Shah's work. I guess this is called Balearic Trance or Balearic Chillout. If you like this I recommend you check out his album Another Day on the Terrace, and then Sunny Tales. As you can tell, he does at least two mixes with his songs: dance and chillout. I prefer chillout most of the time, but that's just me.
Lemme tell you, if it wasn't for the Internet I never would have found this music.
And I agree with everyone above: there's no such thing as wrong music tastes...there's no such thing as wrong tastes period.
EDIT: Oh, and don't let the length of the songs turn you away from giving it a shot. In some songs it might take a while to buildup, so feel free to skip forward a little. I think a lot of dance music is like this for the sake of mixing purposes, so a DJ or another artist can use the song in compilations and such.
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Music always has, and always will, be subjective. I have an incredibly low tolerance for Death growling over thrashy guitar - but a segment of society thinks it is the 'Bees knees' as you put it. So stop being a self righteous git and telling your girlfriend what music she should like.
There is nothing wrong with sharing music you enjoy with her (and vice versa) with the aim of sharing an interest, but asking a bunch of people on the internet to help you fix her music taste seems pretty absurd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5Pd6ABEVc
I like classical. Do you? My friends who listen to rap think it's lame, but I find it soothing. I find their taste in music lame as well, but they like to rock some bitches or whatever kids these days say.
Stuff I am pretty confident I like is:
Aesop Rock
Vast Aire
C-Mon and Kypski
The Heavy
The Monkees
Sam Cooke
The Temptations
Some Black Sabbath
A bit of jazz that I can't ever remember...
Then it devolves into things I have mostly heard a thousand times and am therefore moderately inured to/nostalgic about. Like Journey and Nirvana and such.
Don't feel like you have to appeal to what I'm already into though, I wouldn't mind hearing music I hate if I also got to read a decent opinion of why I'm totally wrong.
http://troublethinking.wordpress.com (Updated Wed) http://twitter.com/#!/Durandal4532
EDIT Don't be such a bitch about your musical taste. I like avante garde jazz but not swing or big band. My friends and I argue about this endlessly. Nobody is "wrong" when it comes to their musical tastes.
I simply don't spend enough time to be able to discern what suits my tastes, or even what suits other people's tastes.
http://troublethinking.wordpress.com (Updated Wed) http://twitter.com/#!/Durandal4532
Robman that one was weird but kind of great. It sounds like what I imagine 15 year-olds who are planning to become fishermen listen to.
http://troublethinking.wordpress.com (Updated Wed) http://twitter.com/#!/Durandal4532
Ouch man, they're basically the Leonard Skynyrd of the Maritimes
Paul Weller:
The Kinks:
Teenage Fanclub:
Ride:
Sloan:
Jurassic 5:
Michael Hedges:
Velvet Underground:
Nitro:
This.
If you like Ain't No Rest for the Wicked, great. It's catchy. Yeah some hipster douche will tell you that Cage the Elephant is ripping off the White Stripes and maybe BRMC at the same time but fuck it. Good music is good music and if you like it don't let other people's opinions bother you. People get retarded about music. Not about what makes music good, mind you, but about what makes the music you listen to suck. It's cool to drink the haterade.
But you asked for non-lame music and so I present to you the most awesome progressive death indie band making music on this planet:
Music for a Nurse
New Pin
Edit: also there's the band I've stolen my avatar and title/location stuff from but they're sort of weird
when the indigo children come
The new Grace Potter & The Nocturnals album is great, a little more polished (for good or ill) in comparison to their earlier stuff.
The new Broken Bells album is good.
The Heavy's album from last year is great, as is Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros
JJ Grey & Mofro - Orange Blossoms is from a couple of years ago but I just recently got into it and really dug it.
Everything The Avett Brothers have put out is pretty great.
Camera Obscura's album from last year remains a favorite of mine as well.
That seems like plenty.
See I honestly can't tell if that is meant to be positive or negative.
But I am right about everyone in the Maritimes being fishermen, right? My entire knowledge comes from Kate Beaton.
http://troublethinking.wordpress.com (Updated Wed) http://twitter.com/#!/Durandal4532
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQLhndB_Pfo
more funk from the netherlands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLKfvW0f1ro
and while we're in the funky music corner of my record collection
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UtIDlWk2D0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnaSRhMB_qo
Can't mention jazz without
Chet Baker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchEXBimNlg&feature=related
Miles Davis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpLKm8vw4M
Nina Simone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJA69C6SlRk
Django Reinhardt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6jwvS0mHwo&feature=related
And you might also like
Ethiopian jazz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGPnBpOKFPw&feature=fvst
Melody Gardot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RMihe6fb84&feature=fvst
I'll stop now. Just plug in names of what you like in last.fm or pandora or whatever and you'll probably run into more obscure stuff you might enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH-Xw8x44F8
Also see laura marling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QirL0HXnyS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTiBhRYHawA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JPULswVojE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJUI6TNFmWg&feature=related
Also, half the fun of music is backtracking and figuring out what music inspired who. Maybe Cage the Elephant was influenced/ inspired by The White Stripes who in turn were influenced by Son House and all those old blues guys.
http://troublethinking.wordpress.com (Updated Wed) http://twitter.com/#!/Durandal4532
The Black Keys
Daft Punk
MGMT
Jay-Z
Biggie, Pac, Etc.
Wu-Tang
The Decemberists
Deadmau5
Those are just off the top of my head
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI1NgFYJCN4
(also holy shit this next song, I actually hadn't it before I went looking to post some of their other stuff... I guess its new)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHc6VmDHBnc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHrTOQ18yzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs6JRxk1BNs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztvr09J7KK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNXwicxlsvI&playnext_from=TL&videos=WRm4d2mIMFU
Social Distortion
DJ Shadow (1st album "Endtroducing" is pretty amazing IMHO)
These are from "Annie Mac Presents" which has been on some heavy rotation for me lately.
La Roux
And then that awesome remix (stick with it, it's coooool 8-))
Ahh!!! I can't believe I left out the only answer.
Johnny Cash, his career spans like an eon, and it's all good and different. I heart Johnny Cash
Agreed, Just put it on when you are cleaning the house, and you will find new things, or start liking songs you didn't before.
Too bad some of the newer stuff is so so. In Tune and on Time is pretty boss too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6xNhksHyXI&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WunYz7Io-68&feature=related&fmt=18
Which Black Sabbath do you like, specifically? There are is major territory to explore in metal that isn't anything like stereotypical death metal. (Though it has been amusing to see that kind of thing become more appealing to me the longer I listen to metal.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ykoFDTqla0
Basically a Polish DJ slightly edited it (think edit NOT remix) and now it gets thrown in some house sets now and again. It's not the boring crooning that the four seasons normally does and kind of soulful in a way and set to a breakbeat.
Also, if you want any techno (detroit, minimal, bangin, or whatnot) recommendations, let me know. Generally, people don't like that kind of stuff.
Well, I'll throw up a couple of techno sets just in case you don't hate it.
Detroit! 2 Hour set by Kevin Saunderson, who is best known for inventing techno along with 2 of his buddies
http://soundcloud.com/dexnfx/kevin-saunderson-space-ibiza-21st-july-2009
Minimal, techhouse, microhouse: 3 Hour Set by Claud VonStroke
http://soundcloud.com/djmixes/claude-von-stroke-bird-brain-album-tour-harry-klein-club-munchen-23-01-2010
Marcel Fengler of the Berghain club in Berlin does a 1 hour set for Resident Advisor. Berghain is kind of where there's a new rebirth of techno going on after so many years of stripping every down to minimal.
http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?id=209
Ruoska - Industrial (like rammstein, only finnish)
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Helvettiin+J+tynyt/2nwChf
Syrian - Futurepop
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Musika+Atomika/2p7okk (love this song)
How to Destroy Angels (Trent Reznors new project) -
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/The+Space+In+Between/2NAJD0
Turisas - Viking Metal
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Rasputin/2ujdJC
Noisia - Drum and Bass
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Machine+Gun+16Bit+Remix+/2H16yO
Creature Feature - Monster Rock... its good
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/The+Greatest+Show+Unearthed/1n2eg2
L7 - Riot Grrl
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Shitlist/tfdGX
Terrorfakt - Power Noise
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Welcome+To+Hell/2p5qmk
Combichrist - Industrial
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Blut+Royale/cST8Q
Nightwish - Operatic Metal
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/The+Poet+and+the+Pendulum+instrumental+/2fDm4o
Scooter - Happy Hardcore (They have a style that can vary by album
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Maria+I+Like+It+Loud+/u8YDi
Buck-tick - J-Pop
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Mr+Darkness+and+Mrs+Moonlight/2tSQhy
Weapon X - Hardcore
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Facing+the+gates+of+oblivion/2p7oJ2
Royal Crown Revue - Big Band
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Hey+Pachuco/98UMZ
VNV Nation - Futurepop
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Honour+2003+FDR+Version+/2po4QX
Zombie Girl - Zombie Rock
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Blood+Brains+and+Rock+n+Roll/RVdpt
Alestorm - Pirate metal
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Captain+Morgan+s+Revenge/2oPzAx
yeah, if you like the Dio years, then check out more of Dio. I love Dio, and I get sad whenever I think that he just died.
Pink Floyd is my favourite band, so I'm going recommend them. They have more songs than Money, and Another Brick in the Wall.
The Gold Its In The...
Videos game soundtracks are great too. Some of my favorites are Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, which has a somewhat industrial sound to it (and fantastic drumming), and Chrono Cross, which ranges in style from 18th century sea chanties to modern atmospheric music.
Try your hand at american jazz. There are a lot of amazing influences and a lot of different regional tastes. The new-age stuff is fantastic. Jaga Jazzist is a good place to start if you like the more new age stuff.
To cover hip hop, Tribe called quest, De la soul, Bone thugz n harmony, Gang Starr.
And in a similar vein to Noisia, mentioned by Ransim, Black Sun Empire is very similar and just as awesome.
My second favorite and simplest way to find new music is by using Gnoosic.
Sunlounger ft. Zara - Lost (Club Mix) / Lost (Chillout Mix)
Sunlounger ft. Zara - Lost (Chillout Mix)
Sunlounger - Another Day on the Terrace (Chillout Mix)
Sunlounger - A Balearic Dinner
Sunlounger - Lumumba (Chillout Mix)
Sunlounger - Mediterranean Flower (Dance Mix) / Mediterranean Flower (Chillout Mix)
Sunlounger - Mediterranean Flower (Chillout Mix)
Sunlounger (a.k.a. Roger Shah) is one of my all-time favorite music artists. I've been a fan of Trance for about a decade now, starting with Paul Oakenfold and moving onto ATB and Armin van Buuren and the like, but I practically fell in love when I first heard Roger Shah's work. I guess this is called Balearic Trance or Balearic Chillout. If you like this I recommend you check out his album Another Day on the Terrace, and then Sunny Tales. As you can tell, he does at least two mixes with his songs: dance and chillout. I prefer chillout most of the time, but that's just me.
Lemme tell you, if it wasn't for the Internet I never would have found this music.
And I agree with everyone above: there's no such thing as wrong music tastes...there's no such thing as wrong tastes period.
EDIT: Oh, and don't let the length of the songs turn you away from giving it a shot. In some songs it might take a while to buildup, so feel free to skip forward a little. I think a lot of dance music is like this for the sake of mixing purposes, so a DJ or another artist can use the song in compilations and such.
Arcade Fire - Antichrist Television Blues
Talking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (awesome live version, more funk/jam oriented)
Tom Waits - Down in the Hole (also live, has a better groove to it, imo)
Justice - Genesis
Murder by Death - Brother
Elliott Smith - Needle in the Hay
Radiohead - Jigsaw Falling Into Place (thumbs down version, great energy to it)
Ella Fitzgerald/Louis Armstrong - Summertime
The White Stripes - Ball and Biscuit
My Morning Jacket - Gideon (from the live cd/dvd thing Okonokos)
Pixies - Bone Machine
Nirvana - Man Who Sold the World (it's a David Bowie cover, but it's probably my favorite thing they ever did)
Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Modest Mouse - Missed the Boat
Bob Marley - Waiting in Vain
Daft Punk - Around the World
Arctic Monkeys - Fluorescent Adolescent
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52mtzNW4eZM&feature=fvst