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    Onslaught_FeiOnslaught_Fei Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Never thought it was possible but I think I've met the most beautiful person (physically and personality) on OKCupid. I've "loved" girls and been "in love" but this is something different. It's still way too early and I am resisting with every ounce of willpower I have but I think I'm falling for her. Save me.

    Anyway, happy hunting, gents.

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    BackwardsnameBackwardsname __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Jokerman wrote: »

    It went...fucking terrible. At first it was cool, but we just didn't have a lot in common, and she came off kind of vapid.

    Ok really vapid.

    I mean she works in a library and she doesn't like to read...

    Jesus H Christ...

    Ah, that shit is the worst. I've definitely met a few really boring chicks off OKC. The worst was when I was trying to meet people in Ohio -- Jesus. Midwesterners sure are nice, but damn if a lot of 'em aren't boring as fuck. At least most of the girls I met in LA, even if I wasn't much into them, were interesting. Sometimes too interesting.

    Remember though, keep at it. OKCupid can be great, but in my own experience I think it took me around ~4 months to finally meet my girlfriend.

    Speaking of, lady and I went to a monthly gallery/art thing in Central LA today. I finally met a bunch of her friends I never meet because they do all sorts of active, interesting things like go on bike rides and hang out at art studios and shit.

    We hung out for a bit with her friend Snake Doctor who laid out his current performance art piece that he's doing, which actually sounded pretty rad. Also, I just enjoy the fact that she has a friend named "Snake Doctor." So, you know, OKC can yield awesomeness. Just keep at it.

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    BackwardsnameBackwardsname __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm currently engaged in a purely platonic conversation with a mixed race woman who lives about 2,000 miles away but is moving to my town later this year.

    Does that count?

    Sure. If you can do that whole timing up a move thing that can work pretty well. 'Cause you sort of have a natural advantage of you're the only dude she's going to have any romantic context for when she arrives. I say strike up some online passion and just be patient. Plus it gives you plenty of time to figure out if you two are compatible before you even go on a date. It can really take the pressure off things. If you do long-distance prep, that first date usually doesn't have the awkwardness of a true first encounter.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Buddies wrote: »
    Buddies wrote: »
    I'd like to throw out a date idea.

    Take them to a thrift store and look around. Maybe put together a treasure hunt, as in you have to find certain types of items funny/nostalgic type of items. Or try and put together some sort of costume, 70s Porn star look? Sweet. Dorky Tourist Look, it's there. 3 year old kid that was allowed to dress himself? YUP

    I've proposed this as a first meetup with a girl I've been messaging back and forth with. I'll report back her answer. I've moved beyond creeper status(her words after I told her she made it past "she might be a psycho"), so hopefully she is comfortable meeting someone off the internet.


    And my opinion on the argument that is about to explode here.

    elkata's theories are kind of ripped straight from a PUA manual. The Game, Mystery Method, David DeAngelo's cocky/funny shit. You should read "The Game" zombiemambo. It will be a book that will make you red hot pissed off but you won't be able to stop reading. Then you might realize, the shit they are doing. The manipulation, the mind games, all that crap.. that it actually works.

    Here is a bunch of guys that have perfected the art of meeting women. Making themselves seem interesting just so they can get a girl's phone number. They even have canned material that they use on every single girl.

    I'm not trying to advocate some mysoginistic view here. What I'm trying to say is that after 15+ years of hitting on women, men have written books on what worked for them. And there are common themes in those books. Some of those common themes are exactly what elkatas has posted. If you think it's shit, and that he should change his point of view I'd be very interested in how you meet new people. Personally, i fucking hate thinking and doing the type of stuff outlined in those books. So if you've found a way to pick up any women you want without using that shit you could make millions of dollars, right a book.

    Yeah, I'm not thick, I know exactly what he's advocating.

    I'm going to blunt: if you need to read a book on PUA to pick up chicks, you're pathetic.
    I'd be very interested in how you meet new people
    I treat them like human beings, for starters.

    Pathetic like the people that have to use an Internet dating site?

    Why are you in here again? obviously you don't need help picking up women, and your not offering any good advice to anyone on how to get that girl's phone number they think is so cute.

    I agree that the attitude that comes with it is one of the worst ever. But if you're able to disect the information you would be able to see parallels with it and stuff like what is on the first page here. It's just the stuff in this thread is suited more for finding a relationship. And personally I find the stuff in elkatas first post that got bashed to be helpful. I didn't focus on the "cause cosmo says..." part of it but I don't feel it makes any less sound advice. He was just saying "Just met a girl and want her number? You better be more creative than 'can i have your number?' cause your gonna get shot down."

    People who use dating sites aren't pathetic. People who treat women like objects are.

    Elkatas has pulled the stunt before, and frankly I think it's completely and utterly disgusting and doesn't help anyone, especially the women involved.

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Jokerman wrote: »

    It went...fucking terrible. At first it was cool, but we just didn't have a lot in common, and she came off kind of vapid.

    Ok really vapid.

    I mean she works in a library and she doesn't like to read...

    Jesus H Christ...

    Ah, that shit is the worst. I've definitely met a few really boring chicks off OKC. The worst was when I was trying to meet people in Ohio -- Jesus. Midwesterners sure are nice, but damn if a lot of 'em aren't boring as fuck. At least most of the girls I met in LA, even if I wasn't much into them, were interesting. Sometimes too interesting.

    Remember though, keep at it. OKCupid can be great, but in my own experience I think it took me around ~4 months to finally meet my girlfriend.

    Speaking of, lady and I went to a monthly gallery/art thing in Central LA today. I finally met a bunch of her friends I never meet because they do all sorts of active, interesting things like go on bike rides and hang out at art studios and shit.

    We hung out for a bit with her friend Snake Doctor who laid out his current performance art piece that he's doing, which actually sounded pretty rad. Also, I just enjoy the fact that she has a friend named "Snake Doctor." So, you know, OKC can yield awesomeness. Just keep at it.

    Yeah man, it's just like fishing. You're not gonna catch one every time you cast your line out, and even when you hook one sometimes it's better just to throw it back.

    But don't be like my friend colin and spend like 10 minutes trying to dig the hook out and then throw it back.

    Cause that fish will be deaaad.

    The good news? Right after I wrote this post I stumbled across a BEAUTIFUL girl who is into art, and the same kind of music i'm into.

    I wrote her the most interesting message I could think of.

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    SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Jokerman wrote: »
    I wrote her the most interesting message I could think of.

    yo watup girl u want 2 bone u r so hott baby i got mad inch 4 u

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    ok, so

    first off, the picture isn't a permanent (at least as a main)- i know it wouldn't be as funny to a lot of people as it is to me, but yeah, i haven't really had a chance to snap pics for the profile. the one is just kind of a placeholder

    http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Organichu

    how does the actual profile look?

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Jokerman wrote: »
    I wrote her the most interesting message I could think of.

    yo watup girl u want 2 bone u r so hott baby i got mad inch 4 u

    How do you know what I wrote? You hacked my account!



    @Nichu:
    Man I love the profile. It's awesomer then shit. I even like the photo (but I have a weird sense of humor so...yeah)

    would be offended if i stole the last bit from your "message me if" section?

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    steal away

    god knows i stole palestine from its people, who am i to cast stones

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Organichu wrote: »
    steal away

    god knows i stole palestine from its people, who am i to cast stones

    That's a pretty good Evander impersonation. You should bust that on a date.

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    real_pochaccoreal_pochacco Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Just got back from third date. Last night we went to a metal show and I actually enjoyed myself a lot more than I thought I would, there was never a point where I couldn't stand it and the only bad thing was that my ears were in a lot of pain (next time I'll just gonna get the earplugs, even if she doesn't like using them, haha). We eventually wandered back to my place, she eventually fell asleep and then had to get up early to go to a weekend class. Then later today we went on a picnic, I brought the beer and the hummus I had made and she ordered a bunch of yummy food from this wing place. We smoked a bowl in the park and drank beer and hung out until the sun started to go down, and then I hung out at her place for a long time.

    She has such a cute smile, it's amazing.
    -we probably won't click if you call some things 'too faggy for guys' or 'too butch for girls'

    I really like this, I wanted to put something similar in my profile but I couldn't figure out how to express it.

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    elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Buddies wrote: »
    elkata's theories are kind of ripped straight from a PUA manual.

    My views of social conditioning are actually from hypnotherapy. You see, when you deal with automatic processes, phobias, less-than-positive thoughts, and self-saboting ideas on almost daily basis, you tend to see things little differently.

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    Onslaught_FeiOnslaught_Fei Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    JLast night we went to a metal show

    Local bands?

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    SpacemilkSpacemilk Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Buddies wrote: »
    And personally I find the stuff in elkatas first post that got bashed to be helpful. I didn't focus on the "cause cosmo says..." part of it but I don't feel it makes any less sound advice. He was just saying "Just met a girl and want her number? You better be more creative than 'can i have your number?' cause your gonna get shot down."
    How nice that you find it "helpful" but as a girl I can tell that shit gets old and annoying fast. Elkatas isn't advocating that you be interesting to women; he's saying you should never ask a woman for her number but should rather manipulate her to the point where she's BEGGING for yours.

    Listen, guys. There is nothing wrong with having a fun conversation or date and then asking for my number at the end of it. I may ask you for yours, too! 'Cause, see, that's what adults do - they are straightforward and don't play bullshit games because they left those things in high school where they fucking belong. The very last thing I want in my life is a stressful, manipulative relationship where I can't trust the guy to actually say what he fucking wants because he's got this fucked up idea that he's got to manipulate me and use "methods" that are supposed to make me want him more. Sorry, but actions like this won't cover up the immaturity that makes you use them. The instant I realize how childish you're being if you're using PUA-ish actions, I'm out. And most girls who you want to date, who you want a relationship with, will do the same.

    And on a last note: No girl takes Cosmo seriously anymore. I read ONLY the sex articles because they are hilariously scary and wrong, and I ONLY read those articles while standing in line at the store. When they have tips like "lightly nibble on a guy's dick during oral sex, then give one harder nip" you know that only sadists or virgins are writing this shit and it certainly isn't worth paying for.

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    RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    That's not entirely fair Milk, I'm sure there is a subset of women that reads Cosmo religiously. I just doubt that they're in the 18-35 age bracket that makes up this forum. I'm sure there's also a subset of women that like "being treated like a lady" and being manipulated into every decision.

    I mean, obviously most of us think that's fucking disgusting and unhealthy, but really to each their own right? Who are we to say some aspect of human behaviour is wrong? I was squeezed out of a vagina, and I poop. Life is too ridiculous to get hung up on the details.

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    BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    That's not entirely fair Milk, I'm sure there is a subset of women that reads Cosmo religiously. I just doubt that they're in the 18-35 age bracket that makes up this forum. I'm sure there's also a subset of women that like "being treated like a lady" and being manipulated into every decision.

    I mean, obviously most of us think that's fucking disgusting and unhealthy, but really to each their own right? Who are we to say some aspect of human behaviour is wrong? I was squeezed out of a vagina, and I poop. Life is too ridiculous to get hung up on the details.
    You poop? Yuck.

    And oh yes, there is quite a large subset that reads cosmo religiously. If I wasn't already so busy i'd think of gathering some numbers for age ranges and such. I also don't know if that is frowned on....hmm.

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    SpacemilkSpacemilk Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    That's not entirely fair Milk, I'm sure there is a subset of women that reads Cosmo religiously. I just doubt that they're in the 18-35 age bracket that makes up this forum. I'm sure there's also a subset of women that like "being treated like a lady" and being manipulated into every decision.

    I mean, obviously most of us think that's fucking disgusting and unhealthy, but really to each their own right? Who are we to say some aspect of human behaviour is wrong? I was squeezed out of a vagina, and I poop. Life is too ridiculous to get hung up on the details.
    That's true, I suppose. I mean, I'll never hand someone a hammer if all they want to do is hit their hand with it, but I will only bother to tell them that it's going to hurt and suck pretty badly before I finally give up and let them do it.

    Of course, manipulative behavior has that extra little layer of suck in that it affects people who do want it just as well as it affects people who don't want it. It's just that the latter may not realize what's going on, and get roped in too.

    Yeah, you poop. But you don't poop on people, right? So I'm cool if Elkatas wants to be manipulative... as long as he doesn't manipulate people. ;)

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    SpacemilkSpacemilk Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    BEAST! wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    That's not entirely fair Milk, I'm sure there is a subset of women that reads Cosmo religiously. I just doubt that they're in the 18-35 age bracket that makes up this forum. I'm sure there's also a subset of women that like "being treated like a lady" and being manipulated into every decision.

    I mean, obviously most of us think that's fucking disgusting and unhealthy, but really to each their own right? Who are we to say some aspect of human behaviour is wrong? I was squeezed out of a vagina, and I poop. Life is too ridiculous to get hung up on the details.
    You poop? Yuck.

    And oh yes, there is quite a large subset that reads cosmo religiously. If I wasn't already so busy i'd think of gathering some numbers for age ranges and such. I also don't know if that is frowned on....hmm.
    Well, there is a subset that reads Cosmo for the makeup, clothes, and hairstyle articles, but those are only OK. Another subset reads it for the smarmy stories and the celeb gossip. But a very very small subset of women actually read it for the sex and relationship tips, because trust me, anyone who has had sex and/or been in a relationship cannot take that advice seriously. So, yes: There are some parts of Cosmo that are mildly interesting/useful for women. But the stuff elkatas was talking about? Erm, no.

    For laughs, go to your local gas station or grocery store, pronto, and read one of the sex/relationship articles. Once you are capable of moving without the pain of laughing too hard, let me know what you think. The dick-nibbling and nipping I mentioned earlier is an actual example, and I would be extremely interested to know if there is a guy out there who actually likes this.

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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I've read Cosmo

    i was really bored and this was before i had the internet on my phone, and the barbershop was out of Car & Driver, and im not reading Sports Illustrated

    And Spacemilk is right, there's no way those articles are meant to be taken seriously. It's like Glen Beck: people that take that seriously are people I dont want to deal with

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    BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Spacemilk wrote: »
    BEAST! wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    That's not entirely fair Milk, I'm sure there is a subset of women that reads Cosmo religiously. I just doubt that they're in the 18-35 age bracket that makes up this forum. I'm sure there's also a subset of women that like "being treated like a lady" and being manipulated into every decision.

    I mean, obviously most of us think that's fucking disgusting and unhealthy, but really to each their own right? Who are we to say some aspect of human behaviour is wrong? I was squeezed out of a vagina, and I poop. Life is too ridiculous to get hung up on the details.
    You poop? Yuck.

    And oh yes, there is quite a large subset that reads cosmo religiously. If I wasn't already so busy i'd think of gathering some numbers for age ranges and such. I also don't know if that is frowned on....hmm.
    Well, there is a subset that reads Cosmo for the makeup, clothes, and hairstyle articles, but those are only OK. Another subset reads it for the smarmy stories and the celeb gossip. But a very very small subset of women actually read it for the sex and relationship tips, because trust me, anyone who has had sex and/or been in a relationship cannot take that advice seriously. So, yes: There are some parts of Cosmo that are mildly interesting/useful for women. But the stuff elkatas was talking about? Erm, no.

    For laughs, go to your local gas station or grocery store, pronto, and read one of the sex/relationship articles. Once you are capable of moving without the pain of laughing too hard, let me know what you think. The dick-nibbling and nipping I mentioned earlier is an actual example, and I would be extremely interested to know if there is a guy out there who actually likes this.
    I have a feeling the same ones that read it for the sex/relationship advice are the ones that would post in the sex/relationship forums on the site. I ASSUME they're taking it seriously? I dunno..hmmm

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    RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    All I know is that if some girl gives my Frank Johnson an Indian sunburn, she's going home with a black eye and no difficulty walking.

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Just got back from third date. Last night we went to a metal show and I actually enjoyed myself a lot more than I thought I would, there was never a point where I couldn't stand it and the only bad thing was that my ears were in a lot of pain (next time I'll just gonna get the earplugs, even if she doesn't like using them, haha). We eventually wandered back to my place, she eventually fell asleep and then had to get up early to go to a weekend class. Then later today we went on a picnic, I brought the beer and the hummus I had made and she ordered a bunch of yummy food from this wing place. We smoked a bowl in the park and drank beer and hung out until the sun started to go down, and then I hung out at her place for a long time.

    She has such a cute smile, it's amazing.

    YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH! YOU'RE SMOTHERING HER! SHE'S WALKING ALL OVER YOU! BLAH BLAH BLAH!

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    BEAST!BEAST! Adventurer Adventure!!!!!Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    All I know is that if some girl gives my Frank Johnson an Indian sunburn, she's going home with a black eye and no difficulty walking.
    You don't know what you're missing out on!!!!!!!

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I've pretty much been completely ignoring okcupid and this thread lately. Its funny, I started actually finally using OKC, and I get bombarded with like, half a dozen girls I know in real life pursuing me, and the one girl I've met online found me on POF.

    Is that ironic? It feels ironic.

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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    its not at all ironic

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    PellaeonPellaeon Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Raslin wrote: »
    I've pretty much been completely ignoring okcupid and this thread lately. Its funny, I started actually finally using OKC, and I get bombarded with like, half a dozen girls I know in real life pursuing me, and the one girl I've met online found me on POF.

    Is that ironic? It feels ironic.

    Does it resemble excessive precipitation on your day of matrimony?

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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Does it resemble sage wisdom, that, for one reason or another, you chose not to heed?

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    So, fireworks a good idea for first meetup/first date?

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    gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Joolander wrote: »
    its not at all ironic

    Actually, it is ironic.
    Irony -noun
    5) an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

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    SpacemilkSpacemilk Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I think that definition is a little broad. For example I could say: "Today I thought my commute would take 30 minutes. It took 35. How ironic!" But I would never call that ironic.

    Then again I am not an English major and this is the Internet Dating thread, not the Internet Definitions thread sooooo...

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    Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Just got back from third date. Last night we went to a metal show and I actually enjoyed myself a lot more than I thought I would, there was never a point where I couldn't stand it and the only bad thing was that my ears were in a lot of pain (next time I'll just gonna get the earplugs, even if she doesn't like using them, haha). We eventually wandered back to my place, she eventually fell asleep and then had to get up early to go to a weekend class. Then later today we went on a picnic, I brought the beer and the hummus I had made and she ordered a bunch of yummy food from this wing place. We smoked a bowl in the park and drank beer and hung out until the sun started to go down, and then I hung out at her place for a long time.

    She has such a cute smile, it's amazing.

    YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH! YOU'RE SMOTHERING HER! SHE'S WALKING ALL OVER YOU! BLAH BLAH BLAH!
    Could you not spew your sillinesss all over this thread too?

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    gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Spacemilk wrote: »
    I think that definition is a little broad. For example I could say: "Today I thought my commute would take 30 minutes. It took 35. How ironic!" But I would never call that ironic.

    Then again I am not an English major and this is the Internet Dating thread, not the Internet Definitions thread sooooo...
    Irony -noun
    5) an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
    contrary -adjective
    1) opposite in nature or character; diametrically or mutually opposed

    To be ironic it has to be the opposite of what you expected.

    I'm done now, I promise.

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    i see all you nerds visiting my profile

    (it's creeping me out but don't stop)

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    JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    gjaustin wrote: »
    Spacemilk wrote: »
    I think that definition is a little broad. For example I could say: "Today I thought my commute would take 30 minutes. It took 35. How ironic!" But I would never call that ironic.

    Then again I am not an English major and this is the Internet Dating thread, not the Internet Definitions thread sooooo...
    Irony -noun
    5) an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
    contrary -adjective
    1) opposite in nature or character; diametrically or mutually opposed

    To be ironic it has to be the opposite of what you expected.

    I'm done now, I promise.

    yes you understand the definition of irony

    but when one uses an online dating site in order to try and find more dates, and then succeeds in doing so, that is not ironic

    ok! no more!

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Joolander wrote: »
    gjaustin wrote: »
    Spacemilk wrote: »
    I think that definition is a little broad. For example I could say: "Today I thought my commute would take 30 minutes. It took 35. How ironic!" But I would never call that ironic.

    Then again I am not an English major and this is the Internet Dating thread, not the Internet Definitions thread sooooo...
    Irony -noun
    5) an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
    contrary -adjective
    1) opposite in nature or character; diametrically or mutually opposed

    To be ironic it has to be the opposite of what you expected.

    I'm done now, I promise.

    yes you understand the definition of irony

    but when one uses an online dating site in order to try and find more dates, and then succeeds in doing so, that is not ironic

    ok! no more!

    But the irony would be in turning to an online dating site in order to try and find dates because of a lack of success in the typical territory of doing so, and instead of succeeding in the new territory, finding greater success in the territory which was neglected.

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    FeatherBladeFeatherBlade Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    elkatas wrote: »

    When something is repeated long enough, it will turn into automatic process, idea that you accept as truth without even thinking. ... Buy diamond ring.....

    And who does this bullshit serve? Business.

    That's bullshit. Advertising doesn't work that way, but if you think it does, I'd like to see you prove it.

    Here's one!

    "Diamonds are forever"? Any one who thinks that diamonds are the ultimate expression of love and devotion is the "victim" of a 100-year-long advertising campaign by the DeBeers diamond cartel, which aimed (and largely succeeded) in instilling into our culture the idea that diamonds are special and have value above and beyond their worth as a commodity. This involved advertisements that encouraged women to think of diamond jewelry as having sentimental associations and worth as heirlooms, portrayed men who did not purchase diamonds for their sweethearts as unfeeling flakes, while the company simultaneously depressed the resale value of said jewelry (which had the effect of creating a false scarcity), thus driving up both the price and the perceived value of the stones.

    Anyway...

    I got a message on OKC! (well.. a couple actually, but the one guy had an almost total lack of capitalization on his profile, so as petty as that is, he's right out of any consideration)

    The other guy, who has a much better profile and interesting taste in books, got a response from me. I've been out of internet this weekend, so there's a few days gap between my responses. Does that make me look like a total flake?

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    "Diamonds are forever"? Any one who thinks that diamonds are the ultimate expression of love and devotion is the "victim" of a 100-year-long advertising campaign by the DeBeers diamond cartel, which aimed (and largely succeeded) in instilling into our culture the idea that diamonds are special and have value above and beyond their worth as a commodity. This involved advertisements that encouraged women to think of diamond jewelry as having sentimental associations and worth as heirlooms, portrayed men who did not purchase diamonds for their sweethearts as unfeeling flakes, while the company simultaneously depressed the resale value of said jewelry (which had the effect of creating a false scarcity), thus driving up both the price and the perceived value of the stones.

    Sorry, but marketing didn't make diamonds appealing. Cultures have been wearing jewelry for thousands and thousands of years. Marketing may have made diamonds more appealing, but you can't sell a product nobody wants by sheer volume of advertising.

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    ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    "Diamonds are forever"? Any one who thinks that diamonds are the ultimate expression of love and devotion is the "victim" of a 100-year-long advertising campaign by the DeBeers diamond cartel, which aimed (and largely succeeded) in instilling into our culture the idea that diamonds are special and have value above and beyond their worth as a commodity. This involved advertisements that encouraged women to think of diamond jewelry as having sentimental associations and worth as heirlooms, portrayed men who did not purchase diamonds for their sweethearts as unfeeling flakes, while the company simultaneously depressed the resale value of said jewelry (which had the effect of creating a false scarcity), thus driving up both the price and the perceived value of the stones.

    Sorry, but marketing didn't make diamonds appealing. Cultures have been wearing jewelry for thousands and thousands of years. Marketing may have made diamonds more appealing, but you can't sell a product nobody wants by sheer volume of advertising.

    Actually, diamonds weren't all that special before debeers. Compared to most stones, they're boring and difficult to shape into pleasing shapes. This was especially true in matrimonial jewelery, where complex artisanal work like two hands clasping a heart were favored.

    Diamond rings are kind of like trading cards. A corporation created a meaning and then marketed them on the strength of the meaning.

    Anyway, do any of you have any good ideas for a day with my lady that would allow me to get her to Logan for a 7:30 flight? I was thinking Fort Warren.

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    IsidoreIsidore Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Ahoy hoy innernets dating thread. I have an OKCupid profile I'd like you to hate on, constructively. I made it a while back but didn't really put any thought into it. I've rejigged it today, spurred on by the news that a former classmate of mine is getting engaged. I feel somewhat left out, so here we are.

    No photo yet, but if you're [strike]willing to lie about how good it is[/strike] helpful I promise I'll upload one from my macbook. Be forewarned; I am not a looker.

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    SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Advertising for diamonds tries really hard to convince women that any guy who doesn't spend two months salary on an engagement ring is not worth wasting your time on.

    Whether women actually believe that is a different story.

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