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I've only seen the first DVD of the first season of the show, but isn't the whole plot basically:
4 nations, each one having dudes that have a magic to manipulate a certain element
Air nation gets wiped out, but there's one dude who can do air magic left
Also there once was a guy that could do all 4 types of magic and the one air magic guy is probably that guy
Fire nation is evil or some shit
Magic fights and some bullshit about friendship or something
I mean I know that's not the whole story, about that's really all the exposition you need to put together an alright movie for what I assume (before the movie came out and, presumably, bombed hard) was to be the first in a series of films. The reviews make it sound like he tried to make a 90-minute adaption of The Silmarillion.
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Did you miss the whole part about the museum guy saying "we're collecting all this shit so we can rebuild the world with it"?
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I loved the Avatar cartoon because it had a really simple and robust universe. Stuff made sense without much explaining. Apparently Shammy managed to fuck up that aspect of it, which was, IMO the best aspect of it (because it certainly wasnt the "zomg, friendship conquers all".)
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No more talking until you watch more Avatar.
Nah, 3d blue people probably won't be as impressive on my little standard def TV.
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edit: while Bacon's tone sounds a bit dismissive, that is factually a good preface to the series (except for the probably part- everyone and their mom knows he's the avatar, or at least that the avatar is a young airbender, and since there ain't many of those around)
Ho ho. If you have the service, Netflix has instant streaming for all three seasons.
It's a really good show.
It's not like I intended my bullet point summary to be presented as-is as the film's Star Wars-style story crawl, I'm just saying when it comes to basic exposition you can probably get it done in less than 5 minutes, like Lord of the Rings.
Lord of the Rings was:
Evil motherfucker Sauron wants to take over the world and makes an evil ring to help him take over the world.
A long time ago a bunch of dudes and elves fought Sauron and Sauron lost and the ring got knocked off but the ring was still evil and some dude took it and started to go evil and then it was LOST but now it was FOUND and FUCK SAURON IS COMING BACK AND A MIDGET PERSON HAS THE RING WHAT HAPPENS NOW OH SHIT.
They got all that done right quick.
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I mean, it was made on Nick for kids, but it sortof missed that audience completely. Theyd rather watch yugioh or bakumon or whatver other shovelware with attached toys come around. But the series hit pretty big with older demographics. Hell, season 4 almost got canned because of poor (kid) ratings.
More blood bending and organ-rupturing air bending would have been awesome. Avatar could have been so much awesome if they essentially uncensored it (not that that could have happened, being a nick show, so i guess its good we got it at all).
Also, fire bending sucks balls (that's probably why they tried to conquer the world). Maybe someone should tell them about how fire actually works. Radiant heat and oxygen consumption and all that.
Man, I didn't mean a literal preface to the movie
I intended "while it sounds like Bacon is going 'eh', that is factually a good introduction to the series and they could have done that without a whole load of exposition"
It's too simple of a concept. Feels like a warm-up that was designed to bust open the flood gates to better things, like a snack before the feast.
That and the fact that a lot of the fans can get rabid when it comes to talking about it. It's kind of scary.
for a second, I was like "oh damn, this is heavy, they're killing a lot of- holy fuck they wiped them out. They slaughtered Air Nomads to functional extinction!"
I'm not even that much of a fan of the show, but filling it wall to wall with gore doesn't necessarily sound like a huge improvement to me.
EDIT: Now that I think of it, if I tried pitching the superviolent version of Avatar to a network, the best I could come up with would be, "Fist of the North Star with Captain Planet powers!"
I don't think that would go very far.
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You can just tell that bird is up to no good.
This is more of a preference thing really. I tend to like series that build everything from the ground up rather than rely on pre-existing notions.
Avatar is one of those fantasy properties that are grounded in reality a bit; sure you can bend elements, but the rest of the world's just a mirror of our own, only set in a different time period.
For me that's a little underwhelming. Why not just go all out and make these lavishly exotic locales with some crazy ecosystem of sorts? Those are always more fun to watch unfold.
So what you're saying is that Avatar* (the show) should be less like Avatar¤ , and more like Avatarɸ.
* the show
¤ the show
ɸ the movie, but not the movie based on the show
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That and cripples having sex with giant blue cat people, but I wasn't suggesting that would be an appropriate addition to a Nickelodeon cartoon.
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Shame about the movie, but I didn't really expect anything else.
So, hey, I finally booted up my 2-year-old copy of Oblivion, and I was actually really getting into it. Then, I figured out how to make a knife that can literally drop everything in 2-3 hits, and now it's boring again. They really didn't think that part of the game through, did they?
I would actually say the opposite is true, but i'm not really in the mood to debate this. You can't really call judgement on that until you've read Water Seven or that massive fucking war, but that's asking a lot.
I'm all for world building, I think it's great--one of my favorite things to do. But it really comes down to what the story calls for, not just building bigger and badder locations for the sake of it.
Just throwing that out there for the record to save us a lot of time.
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Grenn, I have a secret, but you can't tell anyone yet cos it hasn't been officially announced.
But keep that under your hat for now, kay?
GASP!!! Wow! Congratulations Mars!
I had a really good meeting with my adviser/exec. producer today and I'm feeling pretty positive about the prospect.
Yes, but you get angry at people for even disliking the Sixth Sense so whatevs, pal
That's fantastic! Good luck, Mars; be charismatic and enthusiastic about your show during the pitch. They love to see that.
Then I realized it's not a mineral deposit.
Also, I got to name kittens.