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[ExaltedOOC] "Rollan rollan rollan, raaaawhiiide"

RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
edited September 2010 in Critical Failures
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Just beyond the edges of the world, the Fair Folk bide their time, waiting for another opportunity to march forth from the formless Wyld to undo shaped reality.
Just beneath the skin of the world, the necrotic lords of the Underworld plot to share the gift of Oblivion with all living things.
Imprisoned within the infinite body of the Yozi-King Malfeas, the Demon Princes strive to escape to wreak vengeance on the gods and their champions.
In the Celestial City of Yu-Shan, the greatest of the gods cannot tear their attention from the seductive Games of Divinity, although Creation teeters on the brink of apocalypse.

The Chosen of the Gods, the Exalted, are the only hope for Creation.
Their story is your story. What legends will they tell of your deeds?

The situation: The South is on the brink of war. The Realm is withdrawing its troops to the Blessed Isle in preparation for civil war, and the factions that have been just waiting for a chance to rip and tear at each others throats are taking advantage. The powderkeg is just waiting for a match, and now four explosive Solar Exalted have entered the city of Chiaroscuro, just looking for a fire to light.

CONLYTH GYLER, HEAVEN'S WINGLORD!
Ex-Realm Military, his love for a Dynast is forbidden now that he is Anathema. His perfectly-sculpted flamepiece and abs aren't even close to the weapon that is his brilliant tactical mind.
Spoiler:

LEDAAL KETAN, WARRIOR-POET!
The women swoon at his poetry, the men die to his blade. Determined to act like an Anathema should, Ketan seeks to undermine the Realm's interests in the South, and forge his own path through destiny.
Spoiler:

TSAS KHAN, FIERCE DESERT CHIEFTAN!
Scarred and rugged, his gaze as piercing as the hawk that rides on his shoulder, his skill with a bow pierces the skin of his foes like his darkly handsome looks pierce the heart of his lovers.
Spoiler:

THE ETHEREAL VOICE, GHOST HUNTER!
Caught up in circumstances beyond his control, this scholarly sorcerer wields his knowledge against the dark Underworld to protect Creation, with a soft smile and meek demeanor, using his knowledge of the heart to seduce women with more than mere brash behavior.
Spoiler:

ARCTURUS, THE BOUNTY HUNTER!
Stoic and mysterious, even dozens of women throwing themselves at his feet is insufficient to sway this deadly hunter of men from his path. Delivering justice with harsh judgements and a keen eye for the truly wicked, only the most pure can gain his alliance.
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  • RingoRingo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hmmm, this might be worth picking up the book..

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    No reason not to, the core book is actually a very nice piece of RPG. WW's prone to putting it on sale, too.

  • simulacrumsimulacrum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Color me interested.

    I'll contribute some input Once I get my hands the book.

  • PapillonPapillon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm interested in this. PbP, correct?

  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PbP indeed. Much as I prefer the more interactive format of IRC or tabletop I just don't have the time right now, and I'm craving more RPG in my life.

  • SnowdownSnowdown Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm down. Once i have the book and read a bit about it, i'll put some feedback up and a character.

  • EgosEgos God Hand Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Udjat_Eye wrote: »
    2. . Also, lets see a healthy variety of antagonists. Not just Abyssals and Terrestrials neh?

    Considering its rainfall I don't think you have to worry about variety in enemies.

    I may be interested, it depends how busy I am going to be.

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  • Undead UnicornUndead Unicorn Registered User
    edited July 2010
    I'm sssssoooooo in.

  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Udjat_Eye wrote: »
    I'm down... By the numbers, I'd like:

    1. To play in a southern setting.
    2. Carefully rendered ultraviolence and the avoidance of twinkage. I want to see the great curse be the challenge that the Yozis meant it to be. I want one or more nemisis. The kind that don't hang around every scene, but definitely will pop in to bring things up another notch. Also, lets see a healthy variety of antagonists. Not just Abyssals and Terrestrials neh?

    South is good. The luxury of Middle-Eastern fantasy, with harems, sultans, and Djinn living in the lap of luxury contrasted with brutal slave trades along the coast, the conquering foreigns of the realm and the native desert raiders... it's good stuff.

    Not to mention Chiaroscuro is the coolest city in the game.

    As for antagonists, no need to worry about variety. I want to really dig into the totally awesome potential of the setting rather than just skim the top, so unless you guys go crusading against the Deathlords you're going to get a lot of variety.

    And the Great Curse, well... one of the reasons I want to start small with an emphasis on characters is so that we can really work out effective Limit Breaks, Motivations, and Intimacies, to draw out the more subtle bits of the social system and force you guys to live with a looming threat.

  • Undead UnicornUndead Unicorn Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Hey was it the East setting that was mostly ocean/ buccaneer flavored? I always like those settings because they give Exalted the element of whimsical is deserves.

    Though Southern does sound great!

  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    THE FOUR DIRECTION OF CREATION(PLUS THE MIDDLE)
    The North:
    A frozen wasteland where survival against the simple pressure of the environment is far more challenging than most monsters you'll face, the North is a curious direction. Really boring and cold, with a few monsters and Deathlords to fight, as well as massive rampaging armies of Fair Folk. Airships are the favored method of travel, mostly owned by the Haslanti League, who spend all their time fighting against the Realm. There's a good mix of stuff going on, but since I live in northern Canada the allure of icy wastes is largely lost on me. Not bad but there's better options.

    The East: The East is big. Two parts!
    1. The Scavenger Lands. City-states, rivers, trading, this place is a bustle of commercial activity, and has the least wandering monster syndrome of any of the other directions short of the Blessed Isle. Sijan, the city of the Dead(funerals and the like,) Nexus, the Superbig Trading City, Denandsor, the Empty City(aside from the army of robots keeping it empty,) Lookshy, the Bulwark of the East, holding an entire Dragon-Blooded Legion that refuses to bend knee to the Realm, and looking over it all like a festering boil is Thorns, the ruined city where the Mask of Winters rules over his undead minions and the undead Behemoth Juggernaut, on which his fortress is built and inside which he breeds an army of giant maggots, raised on supernaturally tough flesh, to eventually burst forth and consume the Scav Lands.
    Good stuff!

    2. The Jungles of the East. Lost temples to ancient gods, manses overrun by vines, Tribal fair folk hunting down humans along the ground, cities built out of the massive, ancient trees themselves. Talking animals, dinosaurs, huge-ass bugs, flowers that grow in your brain and take over your mind, Lunars stalking the enemies of Creation. It's a busy place, where survival of the fittest is the strongest law. Many brutalities abound in the jungles, and the people like it that way.

    The South: One Thousand and One Nights sets the tone for the coastlands of the South. Sultans, harems, incredible luxury and wealth. The Perfect of Paragon, immortal and wise, rules over his city and lets none disobey him. Chiaroscuro raises broken glass towers to the sky in memory of the first age, profitable slave trades running through after its conquest by several different armies. The Lintha Demon-Pirates stalk the western coasts of the desert, terrorizing villages. The First and Forsaken Lion plots his advance into Creation from his giant fortress in the mountains of the Southern Underworld, and brushing against it, on the other side of Creation's skin, the city of Gem trades impossibly valuable stones to the rich traders who dare brave the passage into the furthest-south city.
    The Cult of the Illuminated trains young Solars deep in the desert, keeping them safe from the Realm and indoctrinating them to serve their own cause, confident that the Solars will never be able to escape through the savage tribes and deadly heat, even if they wanted to.

    The West: Pirates! Jungle islands! Volcano sacrifices! Pelagial cults deep underwater, serving their Neverborn Masters! The Silver Prince leads his undead legions to conquest by diplomacy with his silver tongue, preparing for his day of glory! The pirates of Coral battle the Lintha Demons with snarky replys and sharp cutlasses! And far beneath the sea, the floating fortress of Luthe, submerged in the First Age, holds the most powerful weapons that still exist in Creation that are not in the hold of a greater power. They're just protected by a Lunar who takes the form of an incredibly huge killer whale that eats ships.

    And there's the Blessed Isle, overrun by the Dragon-Blooded and their Immaculate Order, where gods are worshipped on a daily schedule, Shadowlands are salted and purified before they become a threat, and cloak-and-dagger political maneuvering between arguing Dynasts is the order of the day. That's right in the middle.

    BTW, that's just my personal summary off the top of my head. If you guys see different things you like about the directions, make sure to point 'em out, because I'm more than happy to play with differing viewpoints.

  • SnowdownSnowdown Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I really dig a jungle setting.

    Both the Jungles of the East, and the West (with its bonus of pirates) give me happytime in the pants.

    The south is not unappealing at all, on a side note.

  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm interesting in playing a Daiklave and Firelock wielding Dawn or Night, depending on whichever would complete the circle.

  • EgosEgos God Hand Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Although I've currently just skimmed over it. A Zenith Robin Hood type seems potentially appealing. Have to read a bit more on it.
    Spoiler:

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  • Undead UnicornUndead Unicorn Registered User
    edited July 2010
    I going to play a Eclipse Class, I'm thinking he was born to one of those Dragon Blood's married off to upper class peasants. He exalted while at the Academy, and is now on the run. Wants to reform the Realm to build a Blessed Isle else wherever the team decides to head.

  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I think that perhaps that sort of overarching motivation is the sort of thing Rainfall said we should be avoiding initially.

  • hotranhotran Registered User
    edited July 2010
    This sounds like it could be a fine time, especially developing the party collectively. What kind of posting rate are you looking for?

    Also, I would be all over a campaign in the West, but it does seem that everyone posting so far has been leaning towards the South, and I'm cool with that as well.

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  • simulacrumsimulacrum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The south sounds really cool, so I'm all for that.

  • Undead UnicornUndead Unicorn Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Well, if that's the case Pluto, then simply removing the Dragoon Blooded presence in whatever area we go to would be fine.

  • PapillonPapillon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm flexible with regard to the direction, but I would prefer to be a distance from the influence of the Realms. Somewhere that people are open-minded, greedy or desperate enough to deal with known or presumed Solars. Spending most of the time in the middle of the jungle/desert works too. I'd prefer to be able to spend essence freely without being dogged by the Wyld Hunt/other "Bad Things(tm)", at least initially. If possible, of course.

    I guess my preference would be for the East or West. As far as caste, my first preference would be for Dawn Caste, followed by Twilight Caste.

  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I don't have any real preference as to the direction. I haven't yet done anything in the North, though that doesn't seem like it's going to be a popular choice.

    If I had to choose, I would prefer the East or South, followed by the West and then the North, though I don't really have too strong a preference.

    What sort of fighting style do you guys plan on taking? I'm planning on taking a Daiklave in one hand and a Firewand in the other, and splitting some charms between melee and archery.

  • EgosEgos God Hand Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hook Swords look rather appealing.

    Direction wise, South and then West sound most interesting. East could as well. North ..seems least and not just because of Rainfall's obvious distaste.

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  • PapillonPapillon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Plutonium wrote: »
    What sort of fighting style do you guys plan on taking? I'm planning on taking a Daiklave in one hand and a Firewand in the other, and splitting some charms between melee and archery.

    If I was making a Dawn Caste, I would be using a Daiklave. If I was doing Twilight I would focus on Sorcery, with a quarterstaff or allies for smacking mooks.

  • RingoRingo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well, I bought the book. Guess I'll start reading

    Added: Just what appeals to me from what I've read in the thread, fighting armies sounds really cool. Combine with the setting of the South and the group somehow getting involved in an escalating conflict that finally becomes all out war? Awesome. But that's just my initial thoughts, I still have no idea about the setting except what's in this thread.

    ceres wrote: »
    I'm just going to go ahead and lock this thread before I feel any worse about humanity.
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  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I've actually refined my concept a bit more, and if you guys don't mind too much, I'd like to take Dawn Caste.

  • PapillonPapillon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Will the characters form a perfect circle, or can there be two of one caste? Also, should we start working on character concepts yet?

  • RainfallRainfall Don't lose your WAAAAAAAYRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Ringo wrote: »
    Well, I bought the book. Guess I'll start reading

    Added: Just what appeals to me from what I've read in the thread, fighting armies sounds really cool. Combine with the setting of the South and the group somehow getting involved in an escalating conflict that finally becomes all out war? Awesome. But that's just my initial thoughts, I still have no idea about the setting except what's in this thread.

    I like this. There's a lot of potential for open war in the South, the Alchemicals(the Locust Horde) are planning to move in, the First and Forsaken Lion has his giant undead army that's just waiting to march into Creation, and there's various factions with smaller and less influential forces jockeying for position.

    It's less of a controlled game than the Scavenger Lands, and the North is mostly in a stalemate between the Haslanti League and the Scarlet Empire, so if you want open warfare, the South is honestly your best bet for that kind of awesome stuff.
    hotran wrote:
    This sounds like it could be a fine time, especially developing the party collectively. What kind of posting rate are you looking for?
    Looking for one post/day at the very least.
    Papillon wrote:
    I'm flexible with regard to the direction, but I would prefer to be a distance from the influence of the Realms. Somewhere that people are open-minded, greedy or desperate enough to deal with known or presumed Solars
    The influence of the Realms is pretty much along the coast of the Inland Sea. Beyond that, any number of minor powers are willing to deal with Solars and the tremendous power they have to offer. There is, of course, always the risk of running into Immaculate-friendly groups, who will promptly call for the Wyld Hunt and try to kill you, but for the most part you can shine a caste mark without getting stabbed by ninjas as long as you're not in REALM TERRITORIES!!
    It's just a lot safer to be subtle about it, especially in big cities.

    Okay, so a bunch of people have shown interest here.

    Udjat_Eye - (South, Chiaroscuro pref.)
    Papillon (Far from the Realms!)
    Simulacrum (South)
    Snowdown - Jungle (East/West, doesn't mind South)
    Egos (South/West)
    Plutonium (East/South)
    Ringo (Likes the idea of war in the South.)
    Hotran (South)
    Undead Unicorn(No Locational Preference)

    So it looks like overwhelmingly the south is going to be the area everyone wants to play in. Unless there's a massive upswell in votes for a different Direction, let's hit the South.

    But the important question is, what do people want from the game?

    Ringo - Warfare! Battling armies! Raah!
    Udjat_Eye - Ultraviolence and the Great Curse.
    Papillon - Wants to avoid the Wyld Hunt at least at the start.

    I'd like some more input on what kind of a game you guys want to play. So far it looks like it's going to be a dramatic warfare scenario set across the dusty deserts of the Deep South, according to the three people who are chiming in. I like the sound of this, but more voices is good!

  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    - Political intrigue. Machiavellian, realpolitik, conspiracy, all of the above.
    - Awesome set-piece battles or events.
    - Situations that won't be easily solved by strait-up violence.

  • EgosEgos God Hand Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I wouldn't mind following the lead of some good wuxia pian films

    -dramatic/weighty one on one fights usually with a nice build-up
    -personal stories falling into a much larger story affecting the lives of many (war ,politics,etc.)
    - Little moments of significance either between characters or npcs that aren't violent. (as odd as it sounds I may be asking for a bit film noir feel here and there :I )

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  • SnowdownSnowdown Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm going to be reading the setting a bit today, then i'll be able to tell you what I'd like to see in the game.

  • hotranhotran Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Plutonium wrote: »
    What sort of fighting style do you guys plan on taking? I'm planning on taking a Daiklave in one hand and a Firewand in the other, and splitting some charms between melee and archery.

    If no one objects, I'd like to play a range-focused Night caste.

    Has anyone given thought to the group's past? Like, were we familiar with one another before the Jade Prison? CoI put us together?

    ---EDIT---

    Also, the massive-armies-clashing-in-the-desert bit rocks as far as this guy is concerned. Maybe toppling the government of one of the established cities (Gem? Paragon?) and dealing with the problems of rulership? Definitely one of those things the sourcebooks mention, that I've never seen played out.

    The Long Way Down: Clank, Warforged Fighter
  • Undead UnicornUndead Unicorn Registered User
    edited July 2010
    I'd like more than a good share of politics in the game.

    PLENTY of fights, and by that I mean HUGE, HUGE battles. Us fighting off armies huge. As well as good personal duels and stuff.

  • SnowdownSnowdown Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I've been reading the 2nd ed sourcebook today.
    Man there's a lot to read ;)

    I should be able to tell you what I would like out of the game tomorrow.

  • simulacrumsimulacrum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Plutonium wrote: »
    - Political intrigue. Machiavellian, realpolitik, conspiracy, all of the above.
    - Awesome set-piece battles or events.
    - Situations that won't be easily solved by strait-up violence.

    Pretty much this.

  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm interested in this, but am absolutely new to Exalted (...not for lack of trying to play it here or there. "Guys, this stuff look cool! Want to give it a try?" "Tried it. Game sucks. Stick with D20.")

    Reading PhB @ now. Can anyone just briefly encapsulate how the game's core mechanic works?

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  • SnowdownSnowdown Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Admittedly, I've never played Exalted either. However, from the look of things....

    Have you played any of the old white wolf games?
    Vampire the Masquerade, Hunter, Werewolf, Mage?

    The mechanics are pretty much the same. even the character sheets look nearly identical

    Basically most rolls are a stat+skill, stat+talent, stat+virtue, etc.

    dice are all d10, there is a "target number"
    the more dice you roll over the target number, the more "successes" you have...the more successes, the more successful your task is...or the more damage you do. difficulties can be 10 and above even...a roll of a natural 10, you re-roll the die, and add that number to the 10.

    After that, if you're hitting someone, they have "soak" dice, where their successes (based on powers, armor, and/or stats) can lower your successes...."absorbing" some of the damage.

    Did i get it right?

  • ArcanisTheImpotentArcanisTheImpotent Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    nope! in exalted when you hit a 10 you count it as two successes instead of 1

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  • SnowdownSnowdown Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well if that was the only thing i was wrong about, without reading the mechanics portion of the book, i'd say not half bad ;)

  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Have you played any of the old white wolf games?
    Vampire the Masquerade, Hunter, Werewolf, Mage?

    I didn't play any of those, no, mostly because they expected me to read through 60+ pages of fluff before--

    OHMYGODTHISBOOKHASTHESAMEPROBLEM!!!! x.x


    Ugh.

    White Wolf: If I'm playing a game, it's to play a fucking game. Your badly written setting bullshit disinterests me.


    At least the comics are cool.

    EDIT: Okay. Game isn't for me, I don't think.

    Have fun!

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  • PlutoniumPlutonium Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The problem that some people have with Exalted is that the combat system is deceitful.

    When you're playing something like D&D, D20, or even other white-wolf games, you're usually rolling to hit, then rolling to see how much damage you do, and then HP goes down. Eventually, someone's HP drops to zero and they're out of the fight.

    While on its surface, Exalted looks like this, it really isn't.

    Exalts hit HARD. If an exalt hits with an attack that's been augmented by a charm, there's not much that will keep you standing up if you don't have a charm to defend against it. Even a guy in superheavy plate's not going to stand up to a Grand Goremaul with a few motes and a charm behind it.

    So really, your essence becomes an extension of your HP, and in exalt-on-exalt combat, when you're out of motes, the end is nigh. Of course, this goes out the window when you're dealing with stuff like super-high soak antagonists or large armies of mortals or other exceptions, but in general, this is how it usually plays out.

    Once you accept this as the basis of combat, unfortunately, the system becomes breakable by players who want to be combat monkeys. There's some builds out there that pretty much break the system and give a character unparalleled fighting ability, in exchange for sucking a lot of the fun out of the game. Because player X wanted to roll up his broken twilight essence reactor or whatever, the ST has to up the ante in terms of bad guys to keep him interested, and everyone else ends up not being able to do anything but watch from the sidelines because the power level has spiraled out of control.

    So I'm going to agree with what Udjat said a page ago, about avoiding twinkage. I think that one of the things we could do is to keep everyone within the same essence range throughout, like for example, making sure that nobody's moving on to essence 4 or 5 while other people are still at essence 2.

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