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Bat-Thread: Bruce Wayne, International Hairy Chested Love God of Mystery

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 I told her on Alderaan nothing else was going on.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well, that's a relief.

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  • The LuggageThe Luggage Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    Also somewhere along the way Batman just ditched his utility belt for some reason (which is a pretty big deal since it's the only thing he brought from the future).

    He lost it back in issue 2. The one he had in this issue was a period piece - none of the batarangs were machined.

    Interminable
  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    KVW wrote: »
    I dont get how the art is crap. Looks average to me. Not bad, not offensive, no misshapen people or anything. Some pretty cool pages, like the splash of Batman at the start, etc. Its not Cameron Stewart or Frank Quitely type stuff, but this isn't stick figures or eye cancer either.

    Neither, the art looked alright and the writing was still amazing. Loved it.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I didn't like the art either. As Keith said, the perspective was all weird in some of the panels. There's no depth to it.

    Actually, the conversation panels were mostly okay. Not great, but okay. The action panels were where the art really shows its weakness. Whenever something was happening, it hurt just to look at it.

    And the people were had to distinguish from one another. There was so much inconsistency between panels on the very same page. Made the story hard to follow because I wasn't always sure who was doing what.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The art didn't bother me, but the issue seemed the most scattershot so far.

    I didn't know who the narrator was of the issue, for one.
    Spoiler:

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    The art didn't bother me, but the issue seemed the most scattershot so far.

    I didn't know who the narrator was of the issue, for one.
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

  • TairuTairu Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    The art didn't bother me, but the issue seemed the most scattershot so far.

    I didn't know who the narrator was of the issue, for one.
    Spoiler:
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  • Linespider5Linespider5 I told her on Alderaan nothing else was going on.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yes, this happened.

    I'm kinda suprised we're not getting that 20's gangland Gotham period...but, then again, I suppose that since it rubs a little too close to certain events in Crime Alley, Morrison thought it needed to be avoided entirely.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    See, I'm starting to wonder if the current B&R arc ties into RoBW so much that it will be how Sacrifice was a key part of OMAC Project but DC didn't say a thing about it and you're like "what the hell?"

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    This is a bit off topic but still Batman related:

    Couple to be wed dressed as Batman and WW

    That means they are the best couple! Suck on that Catwoman.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Ehhh. I don't think I want to see that woman dressed as WW. No thank you.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Ignore the ugly brits!

    It's the principle of the thing!

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Batman + Catwoman 4 lyfe.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    See, I like the Batman/Catwoman stuff from Hush and Heart of Hush. There have definitely been some good stories that have been told about the two of them.

    But the thing about Catwoman is that she isn't good enough for Bruce. Her moral code and his moral code just don't match up. Even now that she's reformed and is more of a mercenary than a thief, she's still way too much of a shady character.

    Bruce is one of the most righteous dudes. Wonder Woman is a much better match for Bruce, because Diana sees things in as much of black and white as Bruce does.

  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It's not about who makes the most sense as a love interest for a character, but who makes for the most interesting love interest. A constant source of friction like differing moral codes is ideal, especially for a loner-types who aren't meant to have stable relationships with women.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 I told her on Alderaan nothing else was going on.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    See, I'm starting to wonder if the current B&R arc ties into RoBW so much that it will be how Sacrifice was a key part of OMAC Project but DC didn't say a thing about it and you're like "what the hell?"

    What's this about Tex? You can't mess with me like this.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    OMAC Project, the Countdown to Infinite Crisis mini, dealt with Max Lord being a punk.

    But in the Superman titles at the time, and Wonder Woman, there was a story that took place pretty much out of nowhere between OMAC #3 & 4 (I think), where Max Lord controls Superman's mind for the 3 Superman issues and then in WW Diana beats up Superman and kills Max Lord.

    So you go from OMAC #3 to 4 where on the first pages you see Diana killed Max Lord, and I'm sitting here going "what the hell?" I just read Action Comics out of that 4-part story so I had no idea what was going on when it shows up in OMAC #4.

    And then I was just tired of OMACs in general and quit on the mini.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2010
    Wonder Woman is trained for battle. She has killed and will kill again. She will go fight villains with an axe or a sword in her hand. She can be brutal.

    That would probably be the source of many conflicts between her and Bruce. The other main source of conflict is that Bruce couldn't spend time with Diana as Bruce Wayne. He doesn't run in those circles as Bruce Wayne.

    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
    A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It would make more sense for her to go as Diana Prince. In fact, Bruce is the one who set her up with that identity. And she's pretty hot as Diana Prince so she'd definitely fit right in as one of Bruce's hotties.

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    OMAC Project, the Countdown to Infinite Crisis mini, dealt with Max Lord being a punk.

    But in the Superman titles at the time, and Wonder Woman, there was a story that took place pretty much out of nowhere between OMAC #3 & 4 (I think), where Max Lord controls Superman's mind for the 3 Superman issues and then in WW Diana beats up Superman and kills Max Lord.

    So you go from OMAC #3 to 4 where on the first pages you see Diana killed Max Lord, and I'm sitting here going "what the hell?" I just read Action Comics out of that 4-part story so I had no idea what was going on when it shows up in OMAC #4.

    And then I was just tired of OMACs in general and quit on the mini.

    I read the trade of OMAC last year on a whim, thinking that the tie-ins to Infinite Crisis didn't really matter, but remembering how my friends who were reading at the time were really upset by Ted Kord's death.

    I was blown away by how important that story was to Infinite Crisis, and how unimportant the other 3 tie-in series seemed to be. If I hadn't read it, I think there would've been massive chunks of IC I would've had to struggle to find context for.

    BUT, the OMAC trade didn't have any of those Superissues either. It had a few excerpted panels and a text explanation of what when down. It did, however, have the WW issue.

  • NinjabearNinjabear Falcon Punch!!! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I just got finished reading Batgirl #12 I just want to know who is that guy in the prison cell in the end? Is it....
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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2010
    No, that is someone else. See the beginning of Batgirl #9.

    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
    A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    still pissed that we didn't get that Cluemaster Robin story from Chuck Dixon

    still pissed that DC did whatever they did to drive Chuck Dixon away

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 I told her on Alderaan nothing else was going on.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I was re-reading Return of Bruce Wayne, and noticed in the beginning an exchange between the cave-folk, involving the shell necklace. I know it's supposed to be a stand-in for the string of pearls, but Man mentions that it must be handed down through the generations until the 'All Over,' a phrase that gets more play later on. It's funny, because everything's been making such a big deal about what's inside that damn box, but the necklace has been following along just as well, but I hadn't really noticed it so much, maybe because no one's trying to kill anybody over it or something...

    I'm wondering if the Box is totally a misdirect. I'm thinking that, or it's got the Bat-Radia in it.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Chip Zdarsky seems to be a pretty funny guy.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 I told her on Alderaan nothing else was going on.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    This.

    This is not good.

    Can we call a moratorium on shit?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    He didn't like the A-Team movie, apparently.

    He is 50/50 now, because that Dookie Knight is hilarious.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Is it me, or is Tim getting increasingly Machiavellian in his scheming? I like it, but he has set himself up a very tough act. Years from now, when Tim becomes Batman for reals he is going to be super awesome.

    Dick makes a perfectly acceptable Batman, but everyone involved knows that Tim is smarter than he is, and he is cool with that.

    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
    A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Is it me, or is Tim getting increasingly Machiavellian in his scheming? I like it, but he has set himself up a very tough act. Years from now, when Tim becomes Batman for reals he is going to be super awesome.

    Dick makes a perfectly acceptable Batman, but everyone involved knows that Tim is smarter than he is, and he is cool with that.

    Wasn't Tim always the Detective Robin? I think it's cool that the various Robins have been aspects of Batman's overall personality, Dick is heroic and straightforward, Tim is clever and perceptive, Jason was uncompromising and rage-filled, and you could probably also fit the Batgirls in there too if you wanted to. Batman being the base from which all these characters develop from and the balance between them is a cool part of the bat-verse in my opinion.

  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    I don't get the same vibe from Tim as I got from Bruce Batman though. I mean, I know Bruce said that Tim was likely smarter that he was, and "We all will be working for him one day", but when Tim targets a bad guy these days it is like he is playing a 3D game of pool using nothing but combo shots.

    Edit: And aside from being the best detective of the Robins, I think he is the super ninja sneakiest.

    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
    A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Is it me, or is Tim getting increasingly Machiavellian in his scheming? I like it, but he has set himself up a very tough act. Years from now, when Tim becomes Batman for reals he is going to be super awesome.

    Dick makes a perfectly acceptable Batman, but everyone involved knows that Tim is smarter than he is, and he is cool with that.

    I always get this feeling that Dick has some plan to take on Tim if he ever goes too far.

    For instance, in what Tim is doing now with his computer program with the villains, Dick understands and is letting him do things his way along with the Vicki Vale stuff, because they are truly brothers the way no one else is in DC right now. But I get this sense that Dick learned from Bruce always be prepared for your closest friend turning on you, and is kind of playing dumb a bit to hide his trick card.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    Didn't they just address that last issue?

    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
    A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, Dick said "I notice I'm not on there" and Tim said "Yeah 'cause I know you'll never turn"

    and then when dick left tim opened up his folder of nude Dick pics and cried himself to sleep

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    No, last issue it was all

    "you did realize Damien would find out you put him on a hero watch list, right?"

    "are you upset about it?"

    "No, I know you well enough you aren't going to go off the deep end, in any case I'd be there"

    *fist bump*


    I mean Dick could beat Tim pretty easily hand to hand if that's what it took to stop Tim if he ever went baddie, but I kind of like the idea that Dick plays aloof a lot more than he has to to throw off people, and banging Babs all the time he had to pick up some tech tricks via sexmosis no one knows about. Like he has some Kryptonian tech or some kind of mcguffin (and this being Nicieza it would be a really cool mcguffin).

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  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I don't like Tim having the whole list of the JLA

    back after Tower of Babel, Young Justice and Titans were treating Tim and Dick like assholes all "hey since batman's a prick you guys probably are too" and they were all "no we wouldn't do that we actually trust people"

    and now he doesn't

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Oh, no. And that's that.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I can't believe he doesn't trust Guy Gardner.

    I didn't realize the Titans were a dick to Dick, seeing as how he has told Batman to pound sand a half dozen times when he goes too far (he even punched him during Bruce Wayne: Murderer). To the Titans this would be nothing new.

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  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I didn't realize the Titans were a dick to Dick

    it was 2000. everyone was docking

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2010
    You know, I am just waiting for Tim to trip the line from Batman Gambits to Xanatos Gambits.

    Although now that I think about it, this last issue might be considered a reverse Xanatos Gambit if you are flexible enough to consider that a good guy going it as a reversal.
    Spoiler:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt4329_W_s0&NR=1

    Some days I just want to smack people with a rolled up newspaper. Or a phone book.
    A folding chair is looking like an attractive option right now too...
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