Street Fighter X Tekken: Game out now. 12 characters DLC incoming. Day 1 patching.

TheUnsane1

Chorazin wrote: »

spookymuffin wrote: »

redfield85 wrote:

Game get. Bought the special edition because I am a sucker and the coin bank looks pretty cool.

I'll play this some time this week. Hockey tonight and tomorrow night. Might hop on during the day tomorrow if anyone wants to spar (I'm looking at you, Masume!).

The coin bank does look pretty cool. Kinda wishing I had spent the extra cash on the special edition. I might just get it and eBay my current copy.

I love my coin bank, and so do X and Zero!

YES! SO GOOD!

Walt

ghost whistler wrote: »

Lili has a simple chain combo that's (iirc) lk, F.lk

The second hit is always blocked.

I don't see how this works.

That string, dominating heel, doesn't combo unless the first lk is a counterhit and it's very unsafe. Cancel the first hit into Dendrobium if they block it or you will eat it. If it counterhits, finish the string and hit them with c.hp while they are staggering to start a huge combo. lk angel knee, lk angel knee, c.hp, EX Dendrobium, j.mp>j.hp, c.hk is good and there's no links so it's fairly easy too.

Lili's best Tekken strings are her safe Peacock series (f+mk>mp or just f+mk) for getting close, and the Left Right series for pressure once you are close (s.lp>f.mp>d.lk or s.mk). Don't finish Left Right with Bedtime (s.mk) except as an alternative to the s.lp c.hp link for combos when your opponent is standing.

Chorazin

TheUnsane1 wrote: »

Chorazin wrote: »

spookymuffin wrote: »

redfield85 wrote:

Game get. Bought the special edition because I am a sucker and the coin bank looks pretty cool.

I'll play this some time this week. Hockey tonight and tomorrow night. Might hop on during the day tomorrow if anyone wants to spar (I'm looking at you, Masume!).

The coin bank does look pretty cool. Kinda wishing I had spent the extra cash on the special edition. I might just get it and eBay my current copy.

I love my coin bank, and so do X and Zero!

YES! SO GOOD!

Zero is a button masher.

ghost whistler

Walt wrote: »

ghost whistler wrote: »

Lili has a simple chain combo that's (iirc) lk, F.lk

The second hit is always blocked.

I don't see how this works.

That string, dominating heel, doesn't combo unless the first lk is a counterhit and it's very unsafe. Cancel the first hit into Dendrobium if they block it or you will eat it. If it counterhits, finish the string and hit them with c.hp while they are staggering to start a huge combo. lk angel knee, lk angel knee, c.hp, EX Dendrobium, j.mp>j.hp, c.hk is good and there's no links so it's fairly easy too.

Lili's best Tekken strings are her safe Peacock series (f+mk>mp or just f+mk) for getting close, and the Left Right series for pressure once you are close (s.lp>f.mp>d.lk or s.mk). Don't finish Left Right with Bedtime (s.mk) except as an alternative to the s.lp c.hp link for combos when your opponent is standing.

It's one of her trials! How can you do it then?

unintentional

Start further away so that the wind up kick whiffs and the stabby kick hits

Evil Multifarious

yeah, the tekken chains don't have to hit or be blocked to continue - they'll come out even if you're across the screen, and you just have to hit with the later ones to register the chain as being successful in the trial

spookymuffin

TheUnsane1 wrote: »

Chorazin wrote: »

spookymuffin wrote: »

redfield85 wrote:

Game get. Bought the special edition because I am a sucker and the coin bank looks pretty cool.

I'll play this some time this week. Hockey tonight and tomorrow night. Might hop on during the day tomorrow if anyone wants to spar (I'm looking at you, Masume!).

The coin bank does look pretty cool. Kinda wishing I had spent the extra cash on the special edition. I might just get it and eBay my current copy.

I love my coin bank, and so do X and Zero!

YES! SO GOOD!

Yep, special edition is on the way. I could use the bank, and Hawkeye and Dr Doom will look hilarious playing that.

AuburnTiger

Spoiler:

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ghost whistler wrote: »

Walt wrote: »

ghost whistler wrote: »

Lili has a simple chain combo that's (iirc) lk, F.lk

The second hit is always blocked.

I don't see how this works.

That string, dominating heel, doesn't combo unless the first lk is a counterhit and it's very unsafe. Cancel the first hit into Dendrobium if they block it or you will eat it. If it counterhits, finish the string and hit them with c.hp while they are staggering to start a huge combo. lk angel knee, lk angel knee, c.hp, EX Dendrobium, j.mp>j.hp, c.hk is good and there's no links so it's fairly easy too.

Lili's best Tekken strings are her safe Peacock series (f+mk>mp or just f+mk) for getting close, and the Left Right series for pressure once you are close (s.lp>f.mp>d.lk or s.mk). Don't finish Left Right with Bedtime (s.mk) except as an alternative to the s.lp c.hp link for combos when your opponent is standing.

It's one of her trials! How can you do it then?

Input the second lk much, much faster than you think you should.

Also, really looking forward to playing as PacMan tonight.

DasUberEdward

gosh these tekken combos and specials are so . . .

Chorazin

spookymuffin wrote: »

TheUnsane1 wrote: »

Chorazin wrote: »

spookymuffin wrote: »

redfield85 wrote:

Game get. Bought the special edition because I am a sucker and the coin bank looks pretty cool.

I'll play this some time this week. Hockey tonight and tomorrow night. Might hop on during the day tomorrow if anyone wants to spar (I'm looking at you, Masume!).

The coin bank does look pretty cool. Kinda wishing I had spent the extra cash on the special edition. I might just get it and eBay my current copy.

I love my coin bank, and so do X and Zero!

YES! SO GOOD!

Yep, special edition is on the way. I could use the bank, and Hawkeye and Dr Doom will look hilarious playing that.

I almost ordered the white armored up X to lean against the cab like he was waiting for his turn, but the D-Arts Izanagi from Persona 4 figure was only $9 more...

redfield85

Chorazin wrote: »

spookymuffin wrote: »

redfield85 wrote:

Game get. Bought the special edition because I am a sucker and the coin bank looks pretty cool.

I'll play this some time this week. Hockey tonight and tomorrow night. Might hop on during the day tomorrow if anyone wants to spar (I'm looking at you, Masume!).

The coin bank does look pretty cool. Kinda wishing I had spent the extra cash on the special edition. I might just get it and eBay my current copy.

I love my coin bank, and so do X and Zero!

There needs to be a YouTube series with figures battling it out in SFxT. Have the figures move and talk, etc etc. Then they start playing and it cuts to an actual match from the game, with commentary and funny clips of the figures faces as shit goes down in the match.

Or, you know, just have more awesome pictures like that. Haha.

DasUberEdward

going from being good at SSFIV to this game is. . .

painful.

Chorazin

DasUberEdward wrote: »

going from being good at SSFIV to this game is. . .

painful.

I hear ya, I used to beast in SSFIV with Balrog, here he's crap. I had to give up on the bike money.

Masume

Chorazin wrote: »

DasUberEdward wrote: »

going from being good at SSFIV to this game is. . .

painful.

I hear ya, I used to beast in SSFIV with Balrog, here he's crap. I had to give up on the bike money.

I'm with you on that. Bison got completely crapped on, so I had to force the switch to a Tekken char. Thankfully though, I am liking the switch out thus far the more I play it. Since Guile got hella improved, he helps as a new main since I was already familiar with him.

Seems that it's hit or miss for the SF cast. They either became much, much better (Zangief, Guile, Juri, etc) or they got nerfed.

House of Paincakes

The game is still very young, I wouldn't count anyone out yet.

Indica1

If this game had Adon and Bruce I would have bought it.

AuburnTiger

Fat Mega Man is pretty terrible, but Pac-Man? Awesome.

TheUnsane1

Shout outs to Bruce! I'm sad no Dragonov Armor king Necro or Sean.

Me and the character designers who made Necro and Sean are prob the only people who would like to see them though sadly.

Zombie Hero

How is the netcode on this game? I don't have local play as an option.

Masume

Zombie Hero wrote: »

How is the netcode on this game? I don't have local play as an option.

Ehhh it's not the best, but it's playable...usually. There are often hitches which will mess with links or other combos, but if you get someone with a decent conn it's not too horrible. Sadly, the sound didn't fare as well. It cuts out and screws up in every match for random crap.

Big Red Tie

actually, the lag doesn't affect links or combos much. i don't think there's any delay.

if it's a bad connection it cuts out a ton of frames though and you'll get hit by attacks with no displayed startup etc.

but you generally want to play on a good connection anyway.

Masume

Big Red Tie wrote: »

actually, the lag doesn't affect links or combos much. i don't think there's any delay.

if it's a bad connection it cuts out a ton of frames though and you'll get hit by attacks with no displayed startup etc.

but you generally want to play on a good connection anyway.

Well the animations hitch for me so hitting the timing on some links get messed with (IE my own timing), but yeah, it depends on the conn. Oddly enough sometimes you'll have a decent conn with someone but then it will go FUBAR for a match or two, then fix itself. It's pretty horrid code really.

Big Red Tie

actually mine doesn't do that? if it's a good connection it usually stays that way for me
same way if it's a bad connection

anyway, i guess you just gotta learn to internalize the link timing instead of using visual queues

Masume

Big Red Tie wrote: »

actually mine doesn't do that? if it's a good connection it usually stays that way for me
same way if it's a bad connection

anyway, i guess you just gotta learn to internalize the link timing instead of using visual queues

Yeah no idea why it does that. I was playing with some local friends online last night and we had a couple of matches that were close to unplayable, then fixed itself. We'd watch our conn bars change in the lobby randomly too, from good to bad. Same with watching fights that aren't yours. I had it disconnect me from watching their fights once or twice for no reason, making me stare at the lobby.

As for internalizing, yeah that's on me. Still, the coding sucks. This is akin to original SF4 code at best.

Big Red Tie

the worst part of it for me is the sound issue

MNC Dover

Did some more training mode today with Asuka and Julia. Asuka has a nasty cross-up with her jump FP and can then easily hit confirm into mp-jp. From there, you can dp+k for a nice damage combo or magic chain into a launcher for a safe tag. As for Julia, well that girl just hits like a tank.

Masume

MNC Dover wrote: »

Did some more training mode today with Asuka and Julia. Asuka has a nasty cross-up with her jump FP and can then easily hit confirm into mp-jp. From there, you can dp+k for a nice damage combo or magic chain into a launcher for a safe tag. As for Julia, well that girl just hits like a tank.

Yeah Julia is who I'm playing right now. Good stuff, if a bit slow. Sadly though she doesn't have much in the way of standing mix-ups. :\

I had a high level Nina player body me, and it was fucking ridiculous. Her B&B combos took nearly half my life off with no meter...from a standing HK. Three hits and I was done, it was like watching MvC3 all over again. >,>

redfield85

Masume wrote: »

Big Red Tie wrote: »

actually mine doesn't do that? if it's a good connection it usually stays that way for me
same way if it's a bad connection

anyway, i guess you just gotta learn to internalize the link timing instead of using visual queues

Yeah no idea why it does that. I was playing with some local friends online last night and we had a couple of matches that were close to unplayable, then fixed itself. We'd watch our conn bars change in the lobby randomly too, from good to bad. Same with watching fights that aren't yours. I had it disconnect me from watching their fights once or twice for no reason, making me stare at the lobby.

As for internalizing, yeah that's on me. Still, the coding sucks. This is akin to original SF4 code at best.

SFIV never gave me issues online except randoms every once in a long while. The matches we played, Masume, I had no issues besides the shitty sound.

ghost whistler

the audio is symptomatic of what's going on with the netcode.

Chorazin

Man, I dunno what happened last night, but I was getting bodied left and right. However, I tried Balrog again in a match vs a friend and I think he clicked for me. In a game where it often comes down to a Time Out, a careful, reactionary Balrog is not a bad thing to have.

DasUberEdward

ghost whistler wrote: »

the audio is symptomatic of what's going on with the netcode.

Is this only a PS3 problem? I encountered it for the first time last night and it was pretty unbearable.

Also who would you guys say plays the most like Sakura with mix ups and things?

ghost whistler

The problem exists on all formats,

Chorazin

DasUberEdward wrote: »

ghost whistler wrote: »

the audio is symptomatic of what's going on with the netcode.

Is this only a PS3 problem? I encountered it for the first time last night and it was pretty unbearable.

Also who would you guys say plays the most like Sakura with mix ups and things?

After a few days playing a lot online, I just turn the TV down and it's not an issue. I mean, it's total bullshit and incredibly stupid, but I can deal.

unintentional

How do you approach someone as hwoarang

Evil Multifarious

unintentional wrote: »

How do you approach someone as hwoarang

same as you'd approach with an up-close mixup character in SF4: walk up, neutral jump over fireballs, jump in over predicted fireballs or slow pokes, use your good pokes at footsie range to do some damage and scare him into blocking by counter-poking

he's also got that weird jumping dive kick thing you can use, it goes pretty far.

AuburnTiger

In a recent interview with GameInformer, Christian Svensson talks very briefly about Street Fighter X Tekken's DLC being on the game disc.

Here is what he had to say.
There’s been a recent explosion over Street Fighter X Tekken having downloadable content already on the disc. Was it more of a PR situation where you have to be better explaining to fans upfront what is going on with something like this?

It came down to a development process issue more than anything. I wish it had been done differently. I think it just becomes -- the rationality of what content costs to make and how you fund that content doesn’t come into play here for the consumer. It’s an emotional issue that I think we need to be sensitive to.

The other part of this is we could have had a better communication strategy around this back at the outset. Left to their own devices, consumers will always jump to the worst possible conclusion. I think what you’ll see in the coming weeks the conclusions that were jumped to were not the correct ones.

ghost whistler

Ryu's crouching heavy kick has far too much range.

MNC Dover

AuburnTiger wrote: »

In a recent interview with GameInformer, Christian Svensson talks very briefly about Street Fighter X Tekken's DLC being on the game disc.

Here is what he had to say.
There’s been a recent explosion over Street Fighter X Tekken having downloadable content already on the disc. Was it more of a PR situation where you have to be better explaining to fans upfront what is going on with something like this?

It came down to a development process issue more than anything. I wish it had been done differently. I think it just becomes -- the rationality of what content costs to make and how you fund that content doesn’t come into play here for the consumer. It’s an emotional issue that I think we need to be sensitive to.

The other part of this is we could have had a better communication strategy around this back at the outset. Left to their own devices, consumers will always jump to the worst possible conclusion. I think what you’ll see in the coming weeks the conclusions that were jumped to were not the correct ones.

This is so true. Companies need to learn that this is 2012 and communication between people is faster and more direct than ever before. Sure on-disc DLC sucks, but it would have been more acceptable to have been told ahead of time that it was being distributed that way. Then again, with this advance knowledge, people may not have bought the game equaling less sales.

My opinion is that it's best not to piss off the fans. Gameplay complaints and moaning I can handle, writing off the company is something else entirely.

Chorazin

MNC Dover wrote: »

AuburnTiger wrote: »

In a recent interview with GameInformer, Christian Svensson talks very briefly about Street Fighter X Tekken's DLC being on the game disc.

Here is what he had to say.
There’s been a recent explosion over Street Fighter X Tekken having downloadable content already on the disc. Was it more of a PR situation where you have to be better explaining to fans upfront what is going on with something like this?

It came down to a development process issue more than anything. I wish it had been done differently. I think it just becomes -- the rationality of what content costs to make and how you fund that content doesn’t come into play here for the consumer. It’s an emotional issue that I think we need to be sensitive to.

The other part of this is we could have had a better communication strategy around this back at the outset. Left to their own devices, consumers will always jump to the worst possible conclusion. I think what you’ll see in the coming weeks the conclusions that were jumped to were not the correct ones.

This is so true. Companies need to learn that this is 2012 and communication between people is faster and more direct than ever before. Sure on-disc DLC sucks, but it would have been more acceptable to have been told ahead of time that it was being distributed that way. Then again, with this advance knowledge, people may not have bought the game equaling less sales.

My opinion is that it's best not to piss off the fans. Gameplay complaints and moaning I can handle, writing off the company is something else entirely.

Hopefully they'll drop some characters for free as a good faith gesture.

AuburnTiger

Free colors and a costume pack of your choice would be a great start.