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Horse of a Different [Chat]

ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go HomeUntil Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
edited October 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
HORSES, HORSES, HORSES! GET YOUR HORSES!

HORSE FIGHTING!

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HORSE RIDING!

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HORSE THE BAND!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SynVMfvWQk4

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  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Now the only thread I've ever made won't have zero replies!

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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    Though I seriously question the value of case studies next to pretty much any other form of data.

    Case studies aren't really meant to demonstrate the same thing as any other form of data.

    For instance, let's say that 95% of people with disease {X} who take {Y} drug improve in 12 weeks, versus 50% of people on placebo. And let's also say that 75% of people who take {Z} improve in 12 weeks.

    A case study might show that one of the 5% who does not improve from {Y} drug does improve from {Z} drug, and then posit a possible causal reason based on the unique properties of that patient.

    This is not useless information, and it is the kind of detailed information that you do not get from a large study. Note that it also does not contradict the larger study.

    I am comforted by Richard Dawkins’ theory of memes. Those are mental units: thoughts, ideas, gestures, notions, songs, beliefs, rhymes, ideals, teachings, sayings, phrases, clichés that move from mind to mind as genes move from body to body. After a lifetime of writing, teaching, broadcasting and telling too many jokes, I will leave behind more memes than many. They will all also eventually die, but so it goes. - Roger Ebert, I Do Not Fear Death
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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I wasn't burning you Winky I was negging you.

    So I could close on that sweet ass of yours.

    _J_ wrote:
    If we only allowed pedophiles to be parents, then we would never have to worry about children being left alone, unwatched.
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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Wrath Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I am installing LoL.

    I need chat to play with me when it is finished.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp! I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    Hmmm. Interesting ploy.

    I guess the bear riding a horse is a decent reason to hang on to this.

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  • ElldrenElldren Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Rob Hubbard is some kind of genius

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  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Zampanov wrote:
    I usually just tell them that their evidence is anecdotal, and isn't representative of the facts and statistics that I am aware of. I tell them I've just given them some facts and things that they can check out on their own to see if I'm telling the truth, or to see how relevant they are, whereas I can't check up on their anecdotes at all. Those situations could have come about by chance and are an outlier or the person could just be straight up lying to me to try to make their point. I put it on them to convince me.

    I basically insinuate that they're lying in the most gentle way possible, like I'm breaking bad news to them. It will make almost anyone angry and feel like they're losing.

    Thanks I shall have to try this next time.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I'll reply until I have no voice left Zamp

    that is until I become hoarse

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  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Hmmm. Interesting ploy.

    I guess the bear riding a horse is a decent reason to hang on to this.

    that's what I was hoping

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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Elldren wrote: »
    Rob Hubbard is some kind of genius

    I like his telescope...

    _J_ wrote:
    If we only allowed pedophiles to be parents, then we would never have to worry about children being left alone, unwatched.
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  • ElldrenElldren Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    TehSpectre wrote: »
    I am installing LoL.

    I need chat to play with me when it is finished.

    rgr rgr

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  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Though I seriously question the value of case studies next to pretty much any other form of data.

    Case studies aren't really meant to demonstrate the same thing as any other form of data.

    For instance, let's say that 95% of people with disease {X} who take {Y} drug improve in 12 weeks, versus 50% of people on placebo. And let's also say that 75% of people who take {Z} improve in 12 weeks.

    A case study might show that one of the 5% who does not improve from {Y} drug does improve from {Z} drug, and then posit a possible causal reason based on the unique properties of that patient.

    This is not useless information, and it is the kind of detailed information that you do not get from a large study. Note that it also does not contradict the larger study.

    Superior to a case study in that instance is an actual experiment.

    I only really think case studies are valuable in situations where you can't have an experiment for practical reasons.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp! I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    Elldren wrote: »
    Rob Hubbard is some kind of genius

    /wikis

    Oh, he's the guy who did the music for Monty on the Run! That's a neat tune.

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  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    better band of horses

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK716RqoUms

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  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    nexuscrawler wrote: »
    I'll reply until I have no voice left Zamp

    that is until I become hoarse

    careful it might aggravate your broncoitis

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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Though I seriously question the value of case studies next to pretty much any other form of data.

    Case studies aren't really meant to demonstrate the same thing as any other form of data.

    For instance, let's say that 95% of people with disease {X} who take {Y} drug improve in 12 weeks, versus 50% of people on placebo. And let's also say that 75% of people who take {Z} improve in 12 weeks.

    A case study might show that one of the 5% who does not improve from {Y} drug does improve from {Z} drug, and then posit a possible causal reason based on the unique properties of that patient.

    This is not useless information, and it is the kind of detailed information that you do not get from a large study. Note that it also does not contradict the larger study.

    Which is cool, but it doesn't really tell us anything other than "hey sometimes people are outliers"

    Unless you use that to then go and make a bigger study of the mechanisms that patient possesses that cause him/her to react differently

    i mean

    anecdotes can impart useful information, but they are the very base in the pillar of knowledge

    you need em, but that doesn't mean they can hold up a house on their own

    Psycho Internet Hawk wrote: »
    Arch I like that no matter what game you're playing, your playstyle inevitably revolves around bugs and monsters and generally ugly things.
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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Zampanov wrote: »
    nexuscrawler wrote: »
    I'll reply until I have no voice left Zamp

    that is until I become hoarse

    careful it might aggravate your broncoitis

    Don't saddle us with this horseshit.

    _J_ wrote:
    If we only allowed pedophiles to be parents, then we would never have to worry about children being left alone, unwatched.
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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Though I seriously question the value of case studies next to pretty much any other form of data.

    Case studies aren't really meant to demonstrate the same thing as any other form of data.

    For instance, let's say that 95% of people with disease {X} who take {Y} drug improve in 12 weeks, versus 50% of people on placebo. And let's also say that 75% of people who take {Z} improve in 12 weeks.

    A case study might show that one of the 5% who does not improve from {Y} drug does improve from {Z} drug, and then posit a possible causal reason based on the unique properties of that patient.

    This is not useless information, and it is the kind of detailed information that you do not get from a large study. Note that it also does not contradict the larger study.
    Unfortunately, pharm companies encourage doctors to publish n=1 case studies for their new experimental drugs.

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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Hmmm. Interesting ploy.

    I guess the bear riding a horse is a decent reason to hang on to this.

    so, there are maybe two or three animals I am actually afraid of

    Bears, horses, and MAYBE pelicans

    that picture is a terrifying thing to me

    Psycho Internet Hawk wrote: »
    Arch I like that no matter what game you're playing, your playstyle inevitably revolves around bugs and monsters and generally ugly things.
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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Glee is so bad why do I keep watching it?

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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    "women's ways of knowing" feminists

    Wait, what is this?

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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    FUZZY

    what is up

    how are you?

    i haven't talked to you in a long time

    Psycho Internet Hawk wrote: »
    Arch I like that no matter what game you're playing, your playstyle inevitably revolves around bugs and monsters and generally ugly things.
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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp! I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    edited October 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Zampanov wrote: »
    nexuscrawler wrote: »
    I'll reply until I have no voice left Zamp

    that is until I become hoarse

    careful it might aggravate your broncoitis

    Don't saddle us with this horseshit.

    you can't rein a maverick in

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  • ElldrenElldren Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    like some sort of neo-baroque basso continuo

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Life doesn't run away from nobody. Life runs at people.Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    So apparently there is going to be a new live-action Hulk series.

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  • ChanusChanus Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    God, I can barely keep my head up. Why am I so tired?

    UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh[tiny]hhhhhhhhhh...[/tiny]

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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    HappylilElf wrote: »
    "women's ways of knowing" feminists

    Wait, what is this?

    "Women's intuition".

    _J_ wrote:
    If we only allowed pedophiles to be parents, then we would never have to worry about children being left alone, unwatched.
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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    I spent some degree of time on this before the last [chat] was locked so I'mma post it.

    moniker wrote:
    kaleedity wrote: »
    people are really really bad with statistical reasoning

    really really bad

    nate silver talked about this last month pretty well along with other subjects linked to polling information, starting with http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/29/the-uncanny-accuracy-of-polling-averages-part-i-why-you-cant-trust-your-gut/

    People are really bad at most everything that involves numbers.
    Bill Goffe recently (2009) surveyed one of his macro principles classes and found, for example, that the median student believes that 35% of workers earn the minimum wage and a substantial fraction think that a majority of workers earn the minimum wage (Actual rate in 2007: 2.3% of hourly-paid workers and a smaller share of all workers earn the minimum wage, rates are probably somewhat higher today since the min. wage has risen and wages have not).

    When asked about profits as a percentage of sales the median student guessed 30% (actual rate, closer to 4%).

    When asked about the inflation rate over the last year (survey was in 2009) the median student guessed 11%. Actual rate: much closer to 0%. Note, how important such misconceptions could be to policy.

    Also:

    Real-vs.-Imagined-Wealth-Distribution-in-the-U.S-1.jpeg

    It's quite sad, really, and leads to warped understandings of how the world actually exists.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    FUZZY

    what is up

    how are you?

    i haven't talked to you in a long time
    CHEMISTRY BROKE MY BRAIN

    trying to get into an AFM lab
    very excited
    also a degree would be nice too

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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    God, I can barely keep my head up. Why am I so tired?

    UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh[tiny]hhhhhhhhhh...[/tiny]

    test: successful
    Spoiler:

    Psycho Internet Hawk wrote: »
    Arch I like that no matter what game you're playing, your playstyle inevitably revolves around bugs and monsters and generally ugly things.
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  • Cedar BrownCedar Brown Registered User
    edited October 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Rob Hubbard is some kind of genius

    I like his telescope...

    You've gotten mixed up. It's actually the Halford telescope. It's made of metal, it's circuits gleam.

    Rob Hubbard started a cult.

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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    FUZZY

    what is up

    how are you?

    i haven't talked to you in a long time
    CHEMISTRY BROKE MY BRAIN

    trying to get into an AFM lab
    very excited
    also a degree would be nice too

    chemistry is the best though

    good luck my friend!

    Psycho Internet Hawk wrote: »
    Arch I like that no matter what game you're playing, your playstyle inevitably revolves around bugs and monsters and generally ugly things.
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  • ElldrenElldren Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Zampanov wrote: »
    nexuscrawler wrote: »
    I'll reply until I have no voice left Zamp

    that is until I become hoarse

    careful it might aggravate your broncoitis

    Don't saddle us with this horseshit.

    you can't rein a maverick in

    Are we going to beat this dead horse again?

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  • ZampanovZampanov You May Not Go Home Until Tonight Has Been MagicalRegistered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Zampanov wrote: »
    nexuscrawler wrote: »
    I'll reply until I have no voice left Zamp

    that is until I become hoarse

    careful it might aggravate your broncoitis

    Don't saddle us with this horseshit.

    you can't rein a maverick in

    thanks friend, buddy, palomino

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud wrote: »
    Glee is so bad why do I keep watching it?

    I wonder if it's going to have a positive impact on the popularity of musicals or a negative one in that it revives horrible musicals.

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  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Fuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud wrote: »
    Glee is so bad why do I keep watching it?

    because it is not bad but, in fact, awesome.

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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Cedar Brown wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Rob Hubbard is some kind of genius

    I like his telescope...

    You've gotten mixed up. It's actually the Halford telescope. It's made of metal, it's circuits gleam.

    Rob Hubbard started a cult.

    Wait I thought that was a guy named Hubert...

    _J_ wrote:
    If we only allowed pedophiles to be parents, then we would never have to worry about children being left alone, unwatched.
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  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    HappylilElf wrote: »
    "women's ways of knowing" feminists

    Wait, what is this?

    "Women's intuition".

    Ohhhhh

    So bullshit then.

    Or more thread appropriate horseshit?

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  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    Zampanov wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Zampanov wrote: »
    nexuscrawler wrote: »
    I'll reply until I have no voice left Zamp

    that is until I become hoarse

    careful it might aggravate your broncoitis

    Don't saddle us with this horseshit.

    you can't rein a maverick in

    thanks friend, buddy, palomino

    Sometimes I swear the pun people are like some kind of colt

    Psycho Internet Hawk wrote: »
    Arch I like that no matter what game you're playing, your playstyle inevitably revolves around bugs and monsters and generally ugly things.
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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited October 2010
    my chat would have been fantastic

    full of ascii art since i cant use image hosting services from work

    o <- an ascii donut
    i <- an ascii person from really far away
    l <- an ascii pole
    @ <- an ascii whirlpool viewed from above
    ~ <- an ascii worm
    S <- an ascii snake

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