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I'm not sure how I feel about this

MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing...Registered User regular
edited August 2010 in Social Entropy++
SE++, most of you probably know that I am a tremendous fan of Jagged Alliance. Those games are pretty good.

Apparently at Gamescom today, they announced a new Jagged Alliance game.

Jagged Alliance Online.

A browser-based MMO.
Tactical Turn based Action in 3D isometric graphics with parameterized maps for fresh challenges
Management of mercenary company with extended RPG system
Synchronous and asynchronous online PvE, co-op and PvP
Build up your own HQ
Players can choose to accept campaigns, which are essentially a string of missions on a specific map that need to be resolved within a given time frame.
Players can support other’s campaigns by renting mercenaries for a certain amount of time and can also bolster their roster by using their ally’s mercs.
The game can be played as a normal browser game, managing mercenaries and sending them on missions or players can dive into the action on the tactical map, improving their chances and rewards.
The game has three core layers of gameplay:
o The tactical map, where players control their mercs directly in turn based/real time combat.
o The management level, where players run their company, rent out mercs and choose missions or campaigns as well as build up their HQ facilities.
o The social layer, where players may support or fight others on campaigns or missions.

I am fearful of Jagged Alliance becoming another Farmville or something. I don't want to see someone's facebook update telling me that they gained +2 marksmanship by training Steroid for three hours.

I realize this is completely unwarranted since it could be really cool! But dammit I love the original JA (and especially JA2) so much that any sort of change to the formula sounds bad. This must be how the rabid Fallout fans feel.

Anyway, SE++, I pose this question to you: What is it that you are completely unreasonable about being changed? It could be an adaptation of your favorite book to movie form, or a change in direction for your favorite comic. What is it that, although you realize how ridiculous being, you find incredibly difficult to accept change in?

Or, you know, talk about whatever in here.

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  • SpudgeSpudge Registered User
    edited August 2010
    I have the hardest time dealing with DSG transmissions

    I know they supposedly shift faster than any other transmission and are supposed to give you the control of a manual with the ease of an automatic but goddamnit I need that clutch pedal

    Also if I fuck up a shift I want to know it. I don't need no dang car saying "I can't let you do that, Dave" when I try to downshift from 5th to 2nd, or shifting for me when I explicitly tell it not to

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Hugh Jackman's too tall to be Wolverine. A bluh bluh bluh

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  • FlatEricFlatEric Leaves from the vine, Falling so slow Like fragile, tiny shells, Drifting in the foamRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I dislike change in a lot of things, really, which is pretty stupid because change is pretty much a universal constant. But so many times something gets changed just for the sake of changing it. It worked perfectly fine before, why you gotta change a thing? Don't fix what isn't broke and all that.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Hugh Jackman's too tall to be Wolverine. A bluh bluh bluh

    He's also too good looking.

    I want a short ass ugly Wolverine again.

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  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Being a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog since 1991 kinda numbed me to getting angry over changes to things.

    I think the only game that was changed that got me worried a bit was the transition from Super Metroid's side scrolling to Metroid Prime's first person perspective.

    That turned out alright.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Of course it did considering that Prime is one of the best games ever.

    Still can't play it on the wii for some reason.

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  • FishmanFishman I find your lack of Hail Hydra! disturbingRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    EA recently was spotted securing Syndicate-branded websites and all signs are the old franchise is being revived.

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    So I just requested Dark Void, 50 Cent: Blood On The Sand, and X-Men Origins: Wolverine on Goozex

    Also, I've been playing Far Cry 2 a bit, which is pretty fucking awesome

  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, Prime is one of the best games ever. I own all three and the Trilogy on top of that.

    The first mini boss on Talon IV actually gave me trouble until I remembered to lead the damn wasps more.

    For some reason, I was completely excited about the jump from A Link to the Past to Ocarina of Time without any reservations.

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  • FlatEricFlatEric Leaves from the vine, Falling so slow Like fragile, tiny shells, Drifting in the foamRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Blood On The Sand is one of the most unintentionally hilarious games ever.

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    FlatEric wrote: »
    Blood On The Sand is one of the most unintentionally hilarious games ever.

    I've played it before, and yeah, it is something wonderful

    a surprisingly fun game too!

  • WrenWren Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    why does everything need to be an mmo

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, I don't know

    pretty soon they'll be making MMOs into MMOs

    putting pay-to-play games inside games you already pay to play

  • WrenWren Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't know

    pretty soon they'll be making MMOs into MMOs

    putting pay-to-play games inside games you already pay to play

    WoW is already charging 3 extra dollars a month for an iphone application that manages your auctions

    soon there will probably be arcade games you feed virtual quarters into, to play. I mean you'll get achievements and maybe a mount for them right

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Wren wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't know

    pretty soon they'll be making MMOs into MMOs

    putting pay-to-play games inside games you already pay to play

    WoW is already charging 3 extra dollars a month for an iphone application that manages your auctions

    what

    what

    just

    what

  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't know

    pretty soon they'll be making MMOs into MMOs

    putting pay-to-play games inside games you already pay to play

    WoW is already charging 3 extra dollars a month for an iphone application that manages your auctions

    what

    what

    just

    what

    Hi there.

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  • FlatEricFlatEric Leaves from the vine, Falling so slow Like fragile, tiny shells, Drifting in the foamRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Moriveth wrote: »
    FlatEric wrote: »
    Blood On The Sand is one of the most unintentionally hilarious games ever.

    I've played it before, and yeah, it is something wonderful

    a surprisingly fun game too!

    I've never been able to play it, but I want to. It has a dedicated swear button, it has to be good.

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  • WrenWren Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't know

    pretty soon they'll be making MMOs into MMOs

    putting pay-to-play games inside games you already pay to play

    WoW is already charging 3 extra dollars a month for an iphone application that manages your auctions

    what

    what

    just

    what

    yes. its a real thing. apparently your 15 dollars a month just isn't enough to manage a simple iphone app

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yukira wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Wren wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, I don't know

    pretty soon they'll be making MMOs into MMOs

    putting pay-to-play games inside games you already pay to play

    WoW is already charging 3 extra dollars a month for an iphone application that manages your auctions

    what

    what

    just

    what

    Hi there.

    Well part of me is happy for Blizzard for somehow being able to make money regardless of the silliest goddamn things

    but the other part doesn't understand why people keep paying for these things that make Blizzard come up with those sort of things in the first place

  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Some people have to control a virtual market.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Living Proof That Sometimes Friends Are Mean.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    because the people are dumb consumer whores

    i'm not a consumer whore, but only because i don't have any money anyway.

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  • FerrusFerrus Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    No matter how good a browser game is, they are still the cancer of the internet.

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  • WrenWren Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    milking consumer whores isn't so bad, but when everyone is too afraid to something thats just free and fun, the guys in the suits get all uppity because gosh darnit there could be a couple bucks to be made there maybe

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    The sad thing is I will probably still end up playing the thing because it's Jagged Alliance

    I mean it'll probably be shit and I won't play for long

    but I will still try it

  • art4217art4217 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I hate the DRM shift to having to be online to install or play a PC game. Internet connections are NOT available everywhere all the time. I don't want to download a third party app to install patches either.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I would play a browser based Jagged Alliance MMO.

    Seems like a good idea to me, I mean you can have a persistent game world with player interaction playing a large part in how you play the game.

    I really think ID is selling people on the idea that a browser based game doesn't have to be "farmville"

  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Moriveth wrote: »
    The sad thing is I will probably still end up playing the thing because it's Jagged Alliance

    I mean it'll probably be shit and I won't play for long

    but I will still try it

    I've never played Jagged Alliance, what's it about?

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  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User
    edited August 2010
    Ferrus wrote: »
    No matter how good a browser game is, they are still the cancer of the internet.

    This is a dumb thing to say. Why should the medium matter if it functions the same way? It's not like Jagged Alliance wouldn't be perfectly manageable in a browser format.

  • FlatEricFlatEric Leaves from the vine, Falling so slow Like fragile, tiny shells, Drifting in the foamRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Ferrus wrote: »
    No matter how good a browser game is, they are still the cancer of the internet.

    I think you mean 4chan.

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yukira wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    The sad thing is I will probably still end up playing the thing because it's Jagged Alliance

    I mean it'll probably be shit and I won't play for long

    but I will still try it

    I've never played Jagged Alliance, what's it about?

    Basically a turn-based strategy game with some money management elements

    you have to find a place to make money (In JA1 it's tapping sap from valuable trees, in JA2 it's various gold/silver mines around the country), and use that money to buy mercenaries. Getting a mercenary isn't a one-time fee either, you have to pay them on a daily, weekly, or biweekly basis.

    In JA1 it was even more complex because you had to 'prove yourself' to some mercs before they'd work for you, so you'd always start out with crappy dudes. Also, some mercenaries hate each other and will quit or kill each other if you make them work together.

    I am doing a bad job at explaining this, but it's a really good series of games with a ton of personality in them.

  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Are they on GoG?

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  • WrenWren Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Ferrus wrote: »
    No matter how good a browser game is, they are still the cancer of the internet.

    but random mutations can be good and the basis of all life

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  • FlatEricFlatEric Leaves from the vine, Falling so slow Like fragile, tiny shells, Drifting in the foamRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Moriveth wrote: »
    The sad thing is I will probably still end up playing the thing because it's Jagged Alliance

    I mean it'll probably be shit and I won't play for long

    but I will still try it

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  • MorivethMoriveth Nobody suspects a thing... Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yup!

    They are a bit hard to get into, though. Especially JA2, which is a bit more involved combat-wise than JA1 is.

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I might check it out. My childhood was console games up until Everquest.

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  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User
    edited August 2010
    Everquest blew my eleven-year-old mind. I still don't know what my dad was thinking in getting that for me.

    "Dad, the game is broken! There's no single-player mode."

    "That's right. You only play the game online."

    "I... what?"

    We played together for years and never managed to get past level twenty.

  • FerrusFerrus Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Wren wrote: »
    Ferrus wrote: »
    No matter how good a browser game is, they are still the cancer of the internet.

    but random mutations can be good and the basis of all life

    True enough. I guess with enough time the Internet might spew forth a browser game that isn't a horrible abomination.

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  • YukiraYukira My watch is stopped on Jump Time.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Everquest blew my eleven-year-old mind. I still don't know what my dad was thinking in getting that for me.

    "Dad, the game is broken! There's no single-player mode."

    "That's right. You only play the game online."

    "I... what?"

    We played together for years and never managed to get past level twenty.

    Four years, 8 or 9 expansions. A level 70 Dark Elf Shadow Knight. That was my first character. I picked one of the hardest race/class combos to level, up until SoE started balancing the classes and exp curve better.

    Being almost as hated as the Iksar was horrible for a new player, and very hilarious looking back on it.

    Only thing I miss is the faction system. It was a lot more interesting than WoW's even if it was a harder grind.

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  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    What am I completely unreasonable about being changed?

    War of the Worlds.

    That fucking Tom Cruise movie was shit out of a butt. They didn't change too much, except everything that matters to fans of the original radioshow and the Jeff Wayne musical version. Also it was terribad, even ignoring the things that were changed.

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