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Cake vs. Pie! [Mini Phalla] -Game Over! Serial Killer Victory, I guess Mafia wins too

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    My Internet died yesterday like 20 minutes before the vote close or so for a while, otherwise I would have been here to check and change my orders :(.
    Darian wrote: »
    So... kime tried to convert a SK day one, and then a mafia day 2? Nice aim!

    I have a gift!

    Edit: And oh yeah, roman, your cover kind of fizzled the last couple days. Good effort though :P. I just still thought you'd be too worried about the mafia, 'cause I still thought they were the dominant power. Nor did I think there were two of you in a faction. But next time

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    daniant wrote: »
    Megatin wrote: »
    daniant wrote: »
    Ummm...usually someone has to survive from that faction to win. I suppose that if you think about it that way, both Cake and Pie fulfilled their secondary conditions. :P

    Well, CapFalcon was alive. He wouldn't have survived today, but he was alive with all his victory conditions fulfilled. Either way, though, I lose :)

    He would have died tomorrow, and Day 5 would have been really dumb, so I decided to let the carnage end today. I thought my post was pretty clear about what was going on. Poor Lemonbar, all alone in the corner.

    but our win condition didn't mention killing or outnumbering the SKs.

  • romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    daniant wrote: »
    daniant wrote: »
    First time running a Phalla guys, so let me know what I did wrong, besides all the busdrivers.

    From my perspective, we (SKs) should of gotten cover roles, rather than one of us a guard, the other a vig, it should of alternated who did what each night, to make us not pretty much screwed as soon as the vig died.

    From a game perspective, i think you tried too hard to give everyone something to do (which is important). Perhaps you could have given some people even/odd day abilities rather than have a mess of too many specials.

    That's good, I like even/odd day powers. I mainly did that because I hate being a vanillager.

    I had a hard time deciding how to give you guys cover roles in a faction game, and it was only today that I figured it out. Next time for sure...

    You should of just told us of a pie/cake that wasn't in the game...Thats the only reason i made this junk up because if i'd picked something already in the game, i'd be insta-exposed.
    Spoiler:

  • Rawkking GoodguyRawkking Goodguy Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    daniant wrote: »
    First time running a Phalla guys, so let me know what I did wrong, besides all the busdrivers.

    The busdrivers were fine, but I busdrove myself with Lucedes day 1 as well! If the kills got split into two by busdrivers, shouldn't the seers have been split as well? :P

    I think you took the right approach in giving the mafia and serial killer abilities, with their sizes and with *everybody* having an ability it was practically a necessity.

    Only other thing is whether the mafia/SKs got cover roles. Duny's rhubarb pie was pretty good if he made that up, unfortunately for him I was already in contact with kime :P

  • CapfalconCapfalcon Tunnel Snakes Rule Capital WastelandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Also, for a village this powerful, a three person mafia is pretty small.

  • CapfalconCapfalcon Tunnel Snakes Rule Capital WastelandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    daniant wrote: »
    First time running a Phalla guys, so let me know what I did wrong, besides all the busdrivers.

    The busdrivers were fine, but I busdrove myself with Lucedes day 1 as well! If the kills got split into two by busdrivers, shouldn't the seers have been split as well? :P

    I think you took the right approach in giving the mafia and serial killer abilities, with their sizes and with *everybody* having an ability it was practically a necessity.

    Only other thing is whether the mafia/SKs got cover roles. Duny's rhubarb pie was pretty good if he made that up, unfortunately for him I was already in contact with kime :P

    Right, but I busdrove as well. That's why it got split.

  • daniantdaniant Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    daniant wrote: »
    daniant wrote: »
    First time running a Phalla guys, so let me know what I did wrong, besides all the busdrivers.

    From my perspective, we (SKs) should of gotten cover roles, rather than one of us a guard, the other a vig, it should of alternated who did what each night, to make us not pretty much screwed as soon as the vig died.

    From a game perspective, i think you tried too hard to give everyone something to do (which is important). Perhaps you could have given some people even/odd day abilities rather than have a mess of too many specials.

    That's good, I like even/odd day powers. I mainly did that because I hate being a vanillager.

    I had a hard time deciding how to give you guys cover roles in a faction game, and it was only today that I figured it out. Next time for sure...

    You should of just told us of a pie/cake that wasn't in the game...Thats the only reason i made this junk up because if i'd picked something already in the game, i'd be insta-exposed.
    Spoiler:
    daniant wrote:
    Dunadan019 wrote:
    daniant wrote:
    Dunadan019 wrote:
    Dunadan019 wrote:
    Spoiler:

    Kill Romanqwerty


    what happened to my kill?

    There must have been a guard or a roleblock. :P

    Can we get some cover roles?

    Ask and ye shall receive. Angel Food Cake, Rhubarb Pie, Custard Pie, Carrot Cake are not taken.

  • daniantdaniant Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, like I said. I didn't get the cover role thing until today. My bad. Sorry.

    Gingerbread is pretty creative though.

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    daniant wrote: »
    Duna is technically right.

    Mafia and SKs tie! Kinda!

    woot!

    the best kind of correct!

  • MegatinMegatin Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I see how it is, ignore me and listen to duna, fine :-p

  • CapfalconCapfalcon Tunnel Snakes Rule Capital WastelandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Ask and ye shall receive. Angel Food Cake, Rhubarb Pie, Custard Pie, Carrot Cake are not taken.

    I was wondering how the hell you got that list...

    Oh, and Mafia Proboard, Confections of Chaos!

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Basically, that whole Megatin ruse, was a...

    huge component of why we lost

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  • daniantdaniant Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I read that 20% Mafia is normal. Unfortunately, I took that as 20% of the village, not 20% of the total amount of players.

  • Rawkking GoodguyRawkking Goodguy Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    daniant wrote: »
    Duna is technically right.

    Mafia and SKs tie! Kinda!

    woot!

    the best kind of correct!

    I claim moral victory!

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Only other thing is whether the mafia/SKs got cover roles. Duny's rhubarb pie was pretty good if he made that up, unfortunately for him I was already in contact with kime :P

    everything about the busdriver actions was true.....

    I was just hoping that the pie player who was a busdriver got killed already......

    I should have gone with the roleblock but the busdriver was just a more convincing story.

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    oh and Daniant, can you add the mafia to the title?

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Spoit wrote: »
    Basically, that whole Megatin ruse, was a...

    huge component of why we lost
    Yes, it was very hard to recover from that. But oh well, Farangu just gets a grudge for next time :P.

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  • daniantdaniant Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Spoit wrote: »
    Basically, that whole Megatin ruse, was a...

    huge component of why we lost

    I think the biggest component of why the village lost was inactive guards, personally. Take a look at the spreadsheet.

    This has really helped me learn how to play in a faction game. It was so obvious to me the clues people were giving day 1 about what faction they belonged too (and who wasn't doing that). I loved running this game guys, thanks for playing!

  • DarianDarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Spoit wrote: »
    Basically, that whole Megatin ruse, was a...

    huge component of why we lost

    Yeah; village idiots don't have the village's interests at heart, though. He was doing fine playing to his own win condition.

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    kime wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Basically, that whole Megatin ruse, was a...

    huge component of why we lost
    Yes, it was very hard to recover from that. But oh well, Farangu just gets a grudge for next time :P.

    killing almost all the vigs and seers on day 1 and 2 was pretty good....

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Basically, that whole Megatin ruse, was a...

    huge component of why we lost
    Yes, it was very hard to recover from that. But oh well, Farangu just gets a grudge for next time :P.

    killing almost all the vigs and seers on day 1 and 2 was pretty good....

    Oh I'm not saying it was the only component <img class=" title=":lol:" class="bbcode_smiley" />, you guys did well too.

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  • MegatinMegatin Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Was there anything else I could've done to convince you all that he was lying, or was I pretty much screwed regardless?

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Megatin wrote: »
    Was there anything else I could've done to convince you all that he was lying, or was I pretty much screwed regardless?

    there are ways......

    you probably still would have died though.

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Megatin wrote: »
    Was there anything else I could've done to convince you all that he was lying, or was I pretty much screwed regardless?

    there are ways......

    you probably still would have died though.

    Yeah, there's really no set strategy for getting out of that. When you get called out as someone saying you were seered as mafia, it's hard to stay alive.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    kime wrote: »
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    Basically, that whole Megatin ruse, was a...

    huge component of why we lost
    Yes, it was very hard to recover from that. But oh well, Farangu just gets a grudge for next time :P.

    killing almost all the vigs and seers on day 1 and 2 was pretty good....

    Oh I'm not saying it was the only component <img class=" title=":lol:" class="bbcode_smiley" />, you guys did well too.

    we only killed 6 people all game long, alot of it was just luck in this case.

    I can see us having lost pretty quickly.

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    kime wrote: »
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Megatin wrote: »
    Was there anything else I could've done to convince you all that he was lying, or was I pretty much screwed regardless?

    there are ways......

    you probably still would have died though.

    Yeah, there's really no set strategy for getting out of that. When you get called out as someone saying you were seered as mafia, it's hard to stay alive.

    however, every action has it's consequence. people are now less likely to believe Farangu in the next games.

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I gotta say, It would have been funny if farangu had accidently picked a mafia member for his gambit.

    he would be a VI stuck as a network head.

  • FaranguFarangu I am a beardy man With a beardy planRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I totally panicked about that for the whole day.

    Turns out I accidentally picked what would have been a critical part of the network.

    Whoops!

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So who was the silly goose that vigged me Day 1? Because yes, you caused us both to lose by doing that.

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  • Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    well i killed the wedding cake, and yes I was the cake vig :(

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  • DaiusDaius Registered User
    edited September 2010
    A faction of Serial Killers?

    Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

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  • CrumbleCrumble Registered User
    edited September 2010
    well i killed the wedding cake, and yes I was the cake vig :(

    Well, grudged I suppose. :)

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Daius wrote: »
    A faction of Serial Killers?

    Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
    Yeah, it's more like a second mafia faction, really.

    Edit: Which was already discussed in the sign-up thread, woops.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    if you want, you can think about a SK as a standalone mafia anyway so making it a mason pair is fine especially for bigger games, I did it in ghostbusters so it isn't exactly new.

    with the mafia being undersized and the SK being oversized, it pretty much was a wash.

  • FaranguFarangu I am a beardy man With a beardy planRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yea, for a 22 player game, masoned SK's(essentially a second mafia) AND a village idiot kinda made it hard for the village to get anything done, I think.

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  • daniantdaniant Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Thanks for the info guys. I didn't realize 10% SK was too many.

    And I just love Village Idiots for some reason.

  • DemuristDemurist Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    daniant wrote: »
    Demurist did not guard for the last two nights. :(

    Well on Tuesday, I straight up forgot. :P

    Last night, I remember typing up the PM, but I guess I forgot to send it.

    P.S. Sorry for not trusting you kime... <img class=" title=":mrgreen:" class="bbcode_smiley" />

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