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[Mass Effect] Lair of the Shadow Broker rules and you should buy it

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  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    well, i beat my vanguard insanity run before the firepower/armor packs came out, so i figure i've paid enough blood, sweat, and tears to have it a bit easier.

    Does the Kestrel armor make that big a difference? I'll be finishing my run this morning and the only DLC items I've used are the Phalanx and the Eviscerator.

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    well, i beat my vanguard insanity run before the firepower/armor packs came out, so i figure i've paid enough blood, sweat, and tears to have it a bit easier.

    Does the Kestrel armor make that big a difference? I'll be finishing my run this morning and the only DLC items I've used are the Phalanx and the Eviscerator.

    i wouldn't know, i don't have any bonus armor except the preorder bonus stuff (collector, inferno) that i ignore. about the only gameplay-affecting DLC i have is the firepower pack.

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  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    Huh. Apparently the -20% Biotic Cooldown upgrade doesn't affect Charge. The cooldown bonuses from Assault Mastery still do, though.

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  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    All right dammit this is some old horse crap.

    After Legion's loyalty mission:
    Spoiler:

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  • KorlashKorlash Registered User
    I finally bought this, after pretty much forgetting about this game after the terrible subject zero trailer.

    The "streamlining" isn't as bad as I thought it would be, although I kinda miss having an inventory.

    Super early game "spoilers":
    Spoiler:

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo Cowtown.Registered User regular
    Zzulu wrote: »
    The mass effect Minerals rap should be in the op

    This is so much better than I ever imagined it could be. Damn.

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  • LeinnaLeinna Registered User regular
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

  • BlurblBlurbl Registered User regular
    Yeah, one of the things I didn't like about ME1 was that one squadmate always reccommended the Paragon choice and the other the Renegade, even when it wouldn't make sense for them to do so.

  • TurambarTurambar Registered User regular
    Come on, BioWare, tell us if Shadow Broker is pre- or post-suicide!
    I have an Infiltrator with nothing to do but the IFF mission.

    Might start a Sentinel while I wait.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    Come on, BioWare, tell us if Shadow Broker is pre- or post-suicide!
    I have an Infiltrator with nothing to do but the IFF mission.

    Might start a Sentinel while I wait.

    Pretty sure it's post.

    If it's pre-, you can still do it after the suicide mission anyway.

  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    I'm guessing all the missions will be doable pre-suicide mission. And certainly everything is doable post- (except the initial 4 recruitments and required Collector missions).

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

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  • TurambarTurambar Registered User regular
    Yeah, I guess there won't be any unique dialogue either way since it's a DLC.

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Yeah. It was pretty strange to see Tali walk over there and coldly put a bullet in his head to make sure.

    evilthecat wrote: »
    "Bioware I want to suck on your teets of gamingness".

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  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

    You sure? Wrex has always been the one to go "screw the Council" with me. How does one determine the party slot?

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    Yeah, I guess there won't be any unique dialogue either way since it's a DLC.

    My guess is probably not due to the cost of getting all the voice actors in, but I'm holding out hope for something (Garrus and Tali since they know Liara?). At minimum expect more Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale of course, which is always good.

    evilthecat wrote: »
    "Bioware I want to suck on your teets of gamingness".

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  • PopesnaxPopesnax Registered User
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

    You sure? Wrex has always been the one to go "screw the Council" with me. How does one determine the party slot?

    I have no idea, but on my "canon" run Ashley was the one who argued that we should save the council (she said something like "I don't like aliens but maybe they'll be less dicks if we save them") and Wrex (or maybe it was Garrus) was like "fuck 'em"

  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

    You sure? Wrex has always been the one to go "screw the Council" with me. How does one determine the party slot?

    Yes I'm sure. It's solely determined by who you picked first and second when composing your party. Sometimes you'll have Liara be all bloodthirsty "BATHE THE RACHNI IN ACID AHRWARHIRG" and "KILL THE COUNCIL I HUNGER FOR FLESH"

    It has nothing to do with personality, everything to do with slot.

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  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    This is actually kind of awesome because it means I might be able to get Liara to stone cold smoke a mofo in the head.

    Wait so is it possible for Wrex to be for saving the rachni? You'd think that one would be locked in stone.

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  • RizziRizzi Registered User regular
    My Mass Effect 2 just shipped.
    Yay!

    Is Tali ever going to find new armour? Not that it really matters, since her shields are practically impossible to take down.

  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Tali's got a much smaller set of armors she can wear, but there are a few. Keep an eye out for Colossus armor, 'cuz it's the best.

    evilthecat wrote: »
    "Bioware I want to suck on your teets of gamingness".

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  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    I always ask for Quarian at the end of Bring Down the Sky.

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  • SoundsPlushSoundsPlush On the edge. Making a run for it.Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Wait so is it possible for Wrex to be for saving the rachni? You'd think that one would be locked in stone.

    My favorite is bringing Wrex and Garrus to that one.

    Wrex: My people were slaughtered killing these things. Don't let them come back.
    Garrus: We can't do that without asking the Council. Genocide is one of the reasons we fought the kroga...uhh.
    Wrex: Yes, Vakarian?

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  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    The Garrus/Wrex conversations were some of my favorite from that game. Garrus has no sense of what the genophage means until he says something, looks at Wrex, and is honor-bound to not retract it.

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  • SneakmanSneakman Registered User regular
    I've completed an Adept run on Normal and a Vanguard run on Veternan, and I'm finally taking off the training wheels with an Infiltrator run on Insanity. It's been a blast so far, challenging without being too frustrating. Incidentally, finishing ME2 on Insanity will bring me over 20,000 Gamerscore, which is a hell of an achievement to get for such a milestone.

    I'm about to go to Horizon, so I'm looking for some advice on how to make it a little less painful. I'm level 15 and have maxed out Tactical Cloak (assassination) and my class passive (assassin). I have a single point in Flashbang Grenade as a bonus power (I only want tech abilities). Should I put more points into Incinerate to deal with armor, or go for Squad Cryo to better deal with Husks?

    As for squaddies, I'm thinking of taking Zaeed for his Incisor, Inferno Grenade and Concussive shot, all of which will be useful against the Collectors. Plus he's pretty non-squishy. Who else should I take? I'm leaning towards Grunt, but is there someone else who would give me better odds? I'm expecting Horizon to take quite a few tries.

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  • TurambarTurambar Registered User regular
    Grunt is good.
    Jack is also nice thanks to Shockwave.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias Registered User regular
    Yeah...as for squadmates who are always useful.

    Grunt and Miranda are pretty much tops. They're good in any situation.

    Grunt because of how tough he is, and Miranda because she has overload and warp. Kasumi is also pretty good if you have her. Thane and Garrus too.

  • EtherealEthereal Registered User regular
    Sneakman wrote: »
    I've completed an Adept run on Normal and a Vanguard run on Veternan, and I'm finally taking off the training wheels with an Infiltrator run on Insanity. It's been a blast so far, challenging without being too frustrating. Incidentally, finishing ME2 on Insanity will bring me over 20,000 Gamerscore, which is a hell of an achievement to get for such a milestone.

    I'm about to go to Horizon, so I'm looking for some advice on how to make it a little less painful. I'm level 15 and have maxed out Tactical Cloak (assassination) and my class passive (assassin). I have a single point in Flashbang Grenade as a bonus power (I only want tech abilities). Should I put more points into Incinerate to deal with armor, or go for Squad Cryo to better deal with Husks?

    As for squaddies, I'm thinking of taking Zaeed for his Incisor, Inferno Grenade and Concussive shot, all of which will be useful against the Collectors. Plus he's pretty non-squishy. Who else should I take? I'm leaning towards Grunt, but is there someone else who would give me better odds? I'm expecting Horizon to take quite a few tries.

    Miranda is always good for Warp and her passive bonus to weapons damage (assuming you've got points in those).

  • WybornWyborn simple as can be Registered User regular
    Dammit, Adept on Insanity is hard in the beginning. Glad I took Energy Drain as my bonus.

    Sneakman:

    Incisor is kind of the cheat gun - it's glitched so that your squadmates do as much damage with it as you do, and they're extremely accurate with it. Max out Zaeed's class power fo weapon damage and he'll tear through almost anything with it. Ditto Thane. I recommend against Incisor on your squadmates because it makes things too easy, but for where you are now the most effective thing would be to bring Zaeed and Garrus with two Incisors - they'll chew through Collectors, Scions, Harbinger, Husks, just everybody.

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  • SneakmanSneakman Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Incisor is kind of the cheat gun - it's glitched so that your squadmates do as much damage with it as you do, and they're extremely accurate with it.

    I thought the Incisor was glitched when I used it on Shepard for Mordin's recruitment mission. I would only pick up 1 extra round for each thermal clip I picked up. That's how it works for the 10-round Mantis, but the Incisor stores 45 rounds. Made it hard to keep using for that mission, so I switched it out for the Mantis at the nearest weapon locker and haven't looked back.

    I didn't know the Incisor was glitched for squad damage though. That certainly explains how I mowed through Purgatory with Zaeed and Garrus last night with relative ease. Even the YMIR mechs didn't give me much trouble. And here I thought I was actually pretty good! Damn.

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  • Dr. WormDr. Worm Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »

    I heart you.

    I like this a helluva lot more than I should.

  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    We now need a 8 bit Mass Effect remake

  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

    You sure? Wrex has always been the one to go "screw the Council" with me. How does one determine the party slot?

    Yes I'm sure. It's solely determined by who you picked first and second when composing your party. Sometimes you'll have Liara be all bloodthirsty "BATHE THE RACHNI IN ACID AHRWARHIRG" and "KILL THE COUNCIL I HUNGER FOR FLESH"

    It has nothing to do with personality, everything to do with slot.

    To their credit it seems to fit the personality of pretty much everyone to be for and against.

    given the situation.

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
  • TaramoorTaramoor Registered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

    You sure? Wrex has always been the one to go "screw the Council" with me. How does one determine the party slot?

    Yes I'm sure. It's solely determined by who you picked first and second when composing your party. Sometimes you'll have Liara be all bloodthirsty "BATHE THE RACHNI IN ACID AHRWARHIRG" and "KILL THE COUNCIL I HUNGER FOR FLESH"

    It has nothing to do with personality, everything to do with slot.

    To their credit it seems to fit the personality of pretty much everyone to be for and against.

    given the situation.

    One of my favorite little touches is that Ashley is always for destroying the Rachni... unless it's her and Wrex on your squad. Then she argues about how you can't play God and such, then if you talk to her on the ship afterward she remembers what she said as opposed to her stock "Bad idea, skip." line that she spouts if she argued for killing them or if she wasn't there.

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  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

    You sure? Wrex has always been the one to go "screw the Council" with me. How does one determine the party slot?

    Yes I'm sure. It's solely determined by who you picked first and second when composing your party. Sometimes you'll have Liara be all bloodthirsty "BATHE THE RACHNI IN ACID AHRWARHIRG" and "KILL THE COUNCIL I HUNGER FOR FLESH"

    It has nothing to do with personality, everything to do with slot.

    To their credit it seems to fit the personality of pretty much everyone to be for and against.

    given the situation.

    One of my favorite little touches is that Ashley is always for destroying the Rachni... unless it's her and Wrex on your squad. Then she argues about how you can't play God and such, then if you talk to her on the ship afterward she remembers what she said as opposed to her stock "Bad idea, skip." line that she spouts if she argued for killing them or if she wasn't there.

    Space Hitler.

    Ok, the joke is really old now. Sorry.


    Actually,....... Ashley's my cannon ME1 romance.

  • BlurblBlurbl Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »

    Now we need an 8-bit remix of The End Run.

  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    C2B wrote: »
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    Leinna wrote: »
    Wow, Ashley is such a space-Nazi that even WREX wants to save the council more than her :-/

    Y'know, those guys who 'neutered his entire race'. :-/

    The way Mass Effect 1 works is that party slot determines what they say, not personality. There will always be a Paragon and a Renegade advisor, and which is which has nothing to do with the characters normal behavior.

    You sure? Wrex has always been the one to go "screw the Council" with me. How does one determine the party slot?

    Yes I'm sure. It's solely determined by who you picked first and second when composing your party. Sometimes you'll have Liara be all bloodthirsty "BATHE THE RACHNI IN ACID AHRWARHIRG" and "KILL THE COUNCIL I HUNGER FOR FLESH"

    It has nothing to do with personality, everything to do with slot.

    To their credit it seems to fit the personality of pretty much everyone to be for and against.

    given the situation.

    One of my favorite little touches is that Ashley is always for destroying the Rachni... unless it's her and Wrex on your squad. Then she argues about how you can't play God and such, then if you talk to her on the ship afterward she remembers what she said as opposed to her stock "Bad idea, skip." line that she spouts if she argued for killing them or if she wasn't there.

    Space Hitler.

    Ok, the joke is really old now. Sorry.


    Actually,....... Ashley's my cannon ME1 romance.

    Bit of an odd romance, mind you.. I suppose being fired out of one is better than being told to babysit a nuke.

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  • C2BC2B Registered User regular
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Bit of an odd romance, mind you.. I suppose being fired out of one is better than being told to babysit a nuke.

    Yes, I left her by the nuke. Happy?


    2nd cannon romance was Tali


    She died too on the suicide mission.....

  • ShujaaShujaa Registered User
    I really enjoyed getting Ashley killed on my Renegade playthrough today.

    Balefuego wrote: »
    When I play FPS games I just assume my dude is inside a tiny plane and he's sticking his arm out the window with a gun.
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